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Thanks for the link Jason. Some good info there. Helped me understand the parametric EQ of the Bravus subs.

After some more research into parametric equalization and MultiEQ, I think I was misinterpreting their statement. I think their point is that using parametric equalization alone to correct the entire frequency range 20Hz-20kHz is difficult to do because of the limitations of the technology (processing power and the spread of the frequency range). They go on to state that this is especially detrimental in the low frequencies where the long wavelengths are more susceptible to room acoustics.

Basically, having the parametric EQ in the Bravus subs is of great benefit to helping deal with room acoustics to mitigate "boomy" or "muddled" bass issues. This will hopefully be furthered balanced/corrected using the MultiEQ system.

At least this is how I interpreted the various sources of info. I think my head might explode if I try to understand it further.

Heh, try reading all of the info from that second link I just posted if you really want your head to explode.

That was weird timing...


I got through some of the summaries, but it quickly got above my head. Luckily it was so far beyond that there was no head explosion (wheels just stopped turning)...

Thanks again!

My pleasure and I'm glad to hear no head explosion was induced!

I've heard our speakers don't sound so good once your cranium has been breached.

Thanks for your responses. Beginning with a 5.1 speaker package is something I had not considered, but is a viable alternative.

For those individuals who purchased Aperion speakers can you provide some suggestions regarding what other brands you feel are worth considering, priced from the low $2s to the low $3s, before you selected Aperion?

The speakers I am interested in are all in-stock w/Aperion, which is no surprise given this economy, so I imagine the shipping/delivery times are fairly quick.

I'm hoping to upgrade my speakers before young Eli takes the field again this September.

optivity- I have had Klipsch, JBL, Bose (center & surrounds), and I have Aperions now. Give them a try. No cost to you to do that.

After reading review after review from about every website that has reviewed Aperion speakers, what I have determined is that you can definitely spend more, but you won't always get more. And I mean that in a under $5000 for a 5.1 set-up. Of course you can spend $5000 on a pair of Focal towers that will sound much better at music than Aperion, but they are not a do-it-all set-up either. Aperion seem to be great for music and home theater. Most of you higher $$ speakers do great in one, but no so great in the other. I will be buying mine the last week of Oct. and if I don't like them, back they go (i'll bet the house that they stay)

In your case, I would start off with (2) 6T and a 6C. Get used to the 3.1 set-up for a while and then tell your wife that it would be nice if Santa dropped some 5B's or 6B's in your stockings this year!

I'm currently auditioning Emotiva 8.3's with a pair of Aperion 6T's due to arrive on Tues..one pair is going back Will post impressions here..

stay tuned....

Hello,
I have a 15x20 room with 5T's, 5C, Aperion s-10 and 4B's for surround and it is a superb fit for movies and multichannel music. It really seems to blend seamlessy together in my environment. I really have no desire to want anything more, except for maybe upgrading my electronics to get lossless audio.

That setup should get it done. Remember it's just as important to have the speaker placement and levels correct as it is to have "enough" speaker.

If you are scrapping pennies...I would say in order of most importance choose...1. 5C over 4C 2. 5T over 4T and 4Bp over 4B
Best of luck to you
dan

Thanks for your impressions guy’s; I really appreciate the input. If my WAF wasn't standing in the kitchen right now I would be tempted to give Aperion Audio a call.

I know I can buy their speakers from the Internet and there are some "coupon" incentives available too, but I suppose it will be prudent to speak with one of Aperion's sales representatives first.

In a way, you already have. "Hicks" is none other than the wonderful Jason Hicks, Aperion Audio Guru, Extraordinaire. Live web chat is a great service that they provide as well, so don't forget that resource. Might be preferable to phone, especially if you get Jason, his voice is kinda nerdy. I jest, I jest! Seriously, though, they'll take care of you. The customer service gets almost more raves than the speakers (almost)!

Hey, I resemble that remark.

I am a life-long geek. After I finish geeking-out all day at work for "entertainment," I normally geek-out at home too.

My wife (24 years) knows how much time I spend in this Forum; her opinion of my little "hobby" is to basically just shake her head and roll the eyes.

While my "expertise" is mostly geared towards Information Technology, it is obvious that I am interested in the subject of A/V Science too.

5 series, 6 series or the package that "Hicks" has suggested; this is the question?

Just so you guys know, within the price range I am considering, it's not so much about the money (e.g. low-end of the price range is currently Mr. "Hicks" package: $2537 to the high-end: Intimus 6T-DB Hybrid XD) @ $4219 but more about dealing with post vacation bills, my upcoming NYS school tax bill (due Sept. 30th) and of course the ever present WAF.

I don't anticipate being in the market for another $7750 PDP (PRO-150FD) anytime soon or a new $1600 receiver (SC-07) either; so within reason, I am willing to spend what it takes to get my speaker upgrade right.

FWIW... I ordered my Aperion 6T's and accompany surrounds a few months ago and have NOT looked back! For the money- their speaker is an incredible value! And not sure how you put a price tag on their CS; so let's just say its PRICELESS! Even recently when my pre amp shi* the bed on me... I called Jason and he as usual very patiently helped me decide which amp to go with that matches up to my Aperion system. Try their 30 day trial in your house; can't go wrong!

Hi All,

I got my Bravus 8D yesterday night. Tried it out and I'm not getting any sound out of that speaker. My other speakers are working great as always. I've posted a few times before regarding my equipment but I'll restate it here:


Receiver: Technics SA-AX610 (100x5 wpc)
DVD Player: Sony DVP-S500D
Speakers: 2 x 4T, 4C and 8D

I've tried multiple ways of coercing the 8D to cooperate (and yes, it is on and it set to "On" in the subwoofer menu.

Test 1- Initial Set-up: I ran all appropriate RCA plugs from DVD player to the receiver. From the receiver, I plugged in a Monster Subwoofer cable from the Subwoofer out to to the 8D LFE Main. Reading the manual, I'm assuming that the receiver's subwoofer out is a pre-out as they indicate that there is nothing on the receiver that amplifies the subwoofer.


Test 2: I used the same set-up as above, but instead of having the subwoofer cable connect the receiver and sub, I used speaker cable connecting the High-Level connectors on the sub to the corresponding Left connector on the receiver. (I only did this for the Left speaker). In addition, I removed the speakers cables from the receiver so that I could detect any sound from the sub. No go.

Test 3: I used a "Y" cable and connected the sub directly to the DVD Player. I plugged in all of the speakers and can hear them perfectly but I can't get the sub to work.

Additional Notes:
I do notice the very powerful hum when I'm first connecting the sub to the receiver (when you are attaching the RCA cables into the appropriate jacks but they aren't totally in yet). Also, in the set-up menu of the dvd player, I've played around with a few settings and have done tone tests. Each time I do the tone tests, it skips over the sub. This was in each of the three tests that I've run. I've played with the crossover settings on the sub and put it as high as 120 just so I could get any sound. The receiver doesn't have crossover or an OSD to play-around with.


Some screen shots of the DVD Player Set-up screens and connections:








Y cable shown connected to sub


Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Dave

Hi again,

After Hour 5 of working on the subwoofer problem I plugged in the Monster cable between sub and receiver, set the factory defaults on the sub and voila, it seems to be working. My apologies for taking up the space.

The great news is that the 8D is awesome!!!! I wasn't sure whether it would provide much due to the awesome 4ts but it definitely picks up the lower frequencies that the 4t just can't. It sounds amazing! Can't wait to get my music set-up on this as well.

Thanks,
Dave

Dave glad everything worked out for you...all of the Aperion owners are usually watching Blu-Rays on the weekends. Just finished watching 2 with my family.

So what do people do with those cute little blue velvet bags anyway??

Halloween!

Ha, this is my theme song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6eswhgOKk


Glad to hear it's up and running and knocking your socks off. But if you have any other problems feel free to give us a call or log into webchat, thanks!

Ok I have a friend who has about $4000 for some serious upgrading to his system. Some of the money is already allocated for a TV and Reciever.

Looking at an Onkyo 806 for reciever or maybe even a 706 and he is getting a Panazonic 42" G10 for his bedroom which leaves just around over $2000 for speakers in the main room. My question is what kind of difference is there between the 4,5 and 6 series tower speakers and the two larger center channels. His room is 20 x 25 and will probably get either an ed or svs sub over the aperion bravus sub which will save a little as well and get some real good base. Throw your thoughts out there as the other set of speakers being looked at are Energy speakers but I have heard so much stuff about the aperions and there in home trial, what do you aperion owners think.

Thanks Jason! Sincerely appreciate it!

I've been auditioning some EMOTIVA 8.3 for the last 2 weeks. Aperion 6T's arrived yesterday...I have to say the the Aperions sound awesome...the detail and clarity are amazing..they are a litttle bright but my room is pretty bare ATM. The 8.3 may have an edge in bass. I'm gonna have to hook em back up and play around with the configuration switches on the back of the 8.3's and see if I can match the 6T's.
I really wanna love the 8.3's..it'll cost me about $250 to pay return freight on them if I decide to keep the 6T's. This is gonna be a tough one...

While I lost the big, thick black rimmed glasses & pocket protector many years ago, my nerdiness has never changed. Now I'm just a big, fat middle-aged geek with a homeowner's suntan.

BTW, I believe I may go with the Intimus 6T-DB Hybrid XD package, unless you feel this is overkill for a 16' x 20' room w/a 10' high ceiling.

I have 3 6Ts across the front and 4 5 series for surrounds. I really enjoy the setup for HT/Music listening I usually run my 6Ts as Large and stereo. I give the sub a rest. My room is roughly 15'x25'x8'

That is around my size room...overkill?....is there such a word? I say if you have the funds go for it. You won't regret it. You will love movie night with that setup.

Exactly, I am only slightly bigger and would not have wanted to go smaller than the 6Ts


I still need to get a sub though. I think if it is still available when I get my replacement receiver in next week I might swing by and pick up that open box 12D they have to audition.

The main differences between the towers as you move up the line is an increase in midrange fullness and a more open sound stage with the ability to fill larger areas with high quality sound. While the bass response of the 4T and 5T are about the same you get quite a bit more bass extension with the 6Ts as they will go down about 15 Hz lower than the 4T and 5T.

Between the 5C and 6C it's also more bass and more open sound, which in this case will give you more clarity for your movie dialog. However if you are sitting around 10-12 feet from the screen I think the 5C does a great job as it's an outstanding center channel too.

Hope that helps!


Well hopefully we'll come out on top but if not thanks for giving them a shot and I guess we'll have to live with being an awesome also-ran.


Honestly for your size space for mostly TV/movies I don't think you need the 6Ts, which for me is the definition of overkill. But hey if you want them then go for it!

"Imagine your home theater powered by big, gorgeous towers of sound. Behold, the 6TD Hybrid XD, one of our ultimate home theater systems."

My trigger finger is getting itchy!

I say pull the trigger

Pull the trigger!

I just recently got 2 6Ts and a 5C and am LOVING them. I am now trying to save up to get a 12D. My room is 15X20x10. I am glad I went with the 6Ts over the 5Ts to give me the bigger soundstage and more bass. Still jonesing for that 12D though. But the 6Ts will keep me busy until then. ;-)