Originally Posted by sticks1839
I'm finally in my new place, and almost fully unpacked. It's time to buy my Aperion system, but I need some help. I'm probably 70/30 movies/music ratio, and my plan was to buy 5Ts for front, 5C center, 8D sub (I'm not a bass head, and it's an apartment), with either 4BPs or 4Bs as the surrounds dependent on my biggest dilemma: where and how to place the rears?
Attached is the layout of the apartment (ignore the furniture, it's from the complex website). The main area is 19'8" x 13'3" with one side open to the kitchen. In this picture my TV would be along the right wall with a U-shaped sectional facing it. It extends back covering the first sliding door with it's back a little bit before the slim piece of wall separating the 2 sliding doors. I have a dining table and server back toward the window. I also have drapes covering the entire side with the sliding doors to prevent sun glare when it's movie time (they extend out almost 5" from wall in order to cover sliding door blinds). The options as I see them:
1: Wall mount the surrounds with one on the piece of wall between doors, and the other on the edge of the wall opposite. I'm thinking the 4BPs if I do this. Problem is that the piece of wall between doors is 1'-1.5' closer to listening area.
2: Ceiling mount the surrounds somewhere behind the listening area. Would use 4Bs in this case. Not sure how far back I should mount them or if it matters. I was thinking of putting them pretty far back, almost against the back wall, slightly angled down toward listening area.
Any other options or suggestions?
One other note: The sectional extends pretty close to where the front left tower would go (maybe 2' in front of it). Would this be a problem?
Any chance you can just slide the couch a little more toward the center of the room so you are more or less equidistant from each wall? If you can do that I think wall mounting the 4BPs would be a good option, as long as they would be at least two feet from the back wall so the tweeters aren't firing right into that wall.
If that's not a possibility then I think your idea of ceiling mounting the 4Bs is good. You might not want to place them all the way at the back wall but you will want to put them far enough behind the couch that you can get enough down angle on them to direct them toward your listening position. If it's an eight foot ceiling I would do them two to three feet behind you.
If you move the couch toward the center of the room it would probably take care of the one side being too close to the tower. If you can't move it then the sound isn't going to be great in that position, but there's not a whole lot else that you can do about it, so just make sure to claim the sweet spot for yourself!
Hope that helps!
Originally Posted by socwrkr
I figured it was pointless to post this on the def tech thread as chances are few of those guys had demo'd them against aperion since they are net direct. So I am wondering, how do they sound vs. the def tech's? Specifically, I would be comparing the 6T's towers, 6C center, and 5DB rears vs. Def Tech 7004BP fronts, 2005 center, and bp2x rears. My room is only about 15 x 14 however, I want something that will stay with me whenever I move or if I decide to build a ht in the basement. I have a Pioneer Elite SC 05 receiver that's staying in the box until i get speakers. I want to spend "around" $2500 and would likely wait on buying a sub or would buy something around $300 for now if I bought the aperions. I should say that I like the def tech sound alot but struggle with paying so much for speakers that are covered in a "sock"... I do take pride in my home and like the way these look (I like the monitor audio speaker appearance as well). BTW: this will be used for about 70 percent movies/ 30 percent music.
Thanks for the input
Sure, here's a couple things I think we have over Def Tech:
First of is our build quality. Just what is going on under those "socks"? Well I can tell you it isn't HDF like we use, but MDF. Since we use HDF it makes our cabinets super solid and not prone to any unwanted resonance. Plus you get the famous Aperion furniture quality finish, so they look as great as the sound.
Second, we use a silk dome tweeter which sounds more smooth and natural to my ear than the titanium tweeter that they use.
Finally as the other guys have pointed out you can always send our speakers back for a full refund with return shipping covered if you think the Def Techs best them.
Just let me know if you have other questions, thanks!