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Originally Posted by BrownTown

I will be auditioning some 6T's once my UMC-1 gets here. I went to Emotiva's fest today (free beer & BBQ and very nice people, Thank You Emotiva) and listened to their 8.3 towers. They sounded OK except for a pop I kept hearing. I was very happy with their amps and processors but not happy with their speakers.

This might be a stupid question as I always heard you cannot have too much power. Would the XPA-5 be fine for 6T,6C, 5B surrounds? The amp is 280 watts with all channels driven at 6ohm, Is that too much for the 5B's?

Originally Posted by Kremlin

Ahh I see.. We don't listen that loud, really, but we do have music or TV on late into the night frequently. Hmm if I am not turning it up that much, maybe an 8D is a waste anyways..

Originally Posted by RedCamaroZSS

I think I have made up my mind on Aperions for my room. Room is 20x18 with 20 ft ceiling, 11-13 ft listening distance. Movies and TV 60-70% and Music 30-40%. I am going to go with 5T and 5C up front, 4T for surrounds, and a 10D sub in a 5.1 setup. I just got my receiver last week, Denon AVR-990 (120watts x 7 channels). I think it should sound amazing with the Aperions. Right now I am running it with 10 year old HTIB speakers from an old Philips set I had in the basement. So I know the improvement will be vast. What do you guys think of the speaker choices? I also was going to see if there are any open-box deals when I call.... who knows, maybe I will upgrade something. Probably ordering this week some time.

Originally Posted by outbreak

Will speakers stands with a 5" x 5" top plate be safe for the 5B? I noticed on the Aperion website the stands they sell are 6" x 6".

Originally Posted by Pitch Shift

I'm sitting at Mike Portnoy's drum set. His talented sticks fly across the toms in a flurry as he warms up with some double bass hits. As I listen to his wizardry, Jordan Rudess sneaks up behind me. His keyboard playing sweeps to the front, siding in next to Johns Myung & Petrucci as they set in on their respective bass and guitar work. As the furious intro comes to a head, James LaBrie's voice cuts like a knife, front and center.

I'm in the studio with Dream Theater, and I have Aperion to thank for it.

The imaging on these speakers is good. Solid. Fantastic, even. I managed to get the 4BPs to just under seven feet, my what a difference that made! Immersion like this is not something I expected from a $200 speaker. Bluntly put, I think they'd have to kill my dog to make me want to send them back. I've listened to quite a few bipole designs, none of which were as nuanced and detailed as these. They compliment the 5Bs perfectly.

Thanks to all for the input on these little guys. Money well spent.

PS: If anyone is on good terms with any of the Transformers, do you think you could ask them not to shoot so much? All the near-misses whizzing past us makes my girlfriend jumpy.

Originally Posted by Kremlin

Any suggestions? I am unsure if I want to go ahead and order this kit or if the 8D is too apartment-unfriendly, in which case I might go subless and throw more budget at the front towers to try to compensate..

Originally Posted by RedCamaroZSS

I think I have made up my mind on Aperions for my room. Room is 20x18 with 20 ft ceiling, 11-13 ft listening distance. Movies and TV 60-70% and Music 30-40%. I am going to go with 5T and 5C up front, 4T for surrounds, and a 10D sub in a 5.1 setup. I just got my receiver last week, Denon AVR-990 (120watts x 7 channels). I think it should sound amazing with the Aperions. Right now I am running it with 10 year old HTIB speakers from an old Philips set I had in the basement. So I know the improvement will be vast. What do you guys think of the speaker choices? I also was going to see if there are any open-box deals when I call.... who knows, maybe I will upgrade something. Probably ordering this week some time.

Originally Posted by bryanb

Anyone have any creative solutions for stabilizing the 5T's? Right now I've had to move them to the corners of my room which I know is less than ideal, but it lessens the chance of them getting knocked over by kids/pets. Audyssey seems to have done a pretty good job with the speakers where they are, but I'm just curious if there's a way I could move them back to a more ideal position. My floor is carpted and the speakers are near a wall if that helps.

Originally Posted by limboroom

I know it sounds crazy, but has anybody tried 6Bs or 5Bs in an enclosed bookshelf? I am really interested in APERIONS, but I have placement issues. I don't think I can go with towers or stands. Would this be a total waste of money?

Originally Posted by bryanb

Anyone have any creative solutions for stabilizing the 5T's? Right now I've had to move them to the corners of my room which I know is less than ideal, but it lessens the chance of them getting knocked over by kids/pets. Audyssey seems to have done a pretty good job with the speakers where they are, but I'm just curious if there's a way I could move them back to a more ideal position. My floor is carpted and the speakers are near a wall if that helps.

Originally Posted by Wryker

I'll post again - anyone order/using their outdoor speakers?

Originally Posted by Browninggold

Are you using the included carpet spikes?

Originally Posted by bryanb

Yes I am, but on my carpet they don't seem to do much for the stability. I don't mean to imply they would just fall over on their own, but someone accidentally bumping into them could do it. I'm concerned about the speakers, but more concerned about someone getting hurt.

Originally Posted by bryanb

Anyone have any creative solutions for stabilizing the 5T's? Right now I've had to move them to the corners of my room which I know is less than ideal, but it lessens the chance of them getting knocked over by kids/pets. Audyssey seems to have done a pretty good job with the speakers where they are, but I'm just curious if there's a way I could move them back to a more ideal position. My floor is carpted and the speakers are near a wall if that helps.

Originally Posted by Kremlin

Huge thanks. Got my 4Ts, 5C and 8D yesterday (5C not hooked up yet, I need to install wall mount brackets). They sound awesome! Very good integration between the sub and towers, and as much as I'd like to get bigger speakers, these are probably as much as I can use in my condo.

The 8D is definitely apartment friendly. It's not overbearing and doesn't reach absurdly low like my old car sub did, but complements the towers nicely. I think I'll be keeping these, and once I can figure out how to run wiring to the back of my room I'll pick up some 4B surrounds

Originally Posted by jedmo

Anyone here own the Bravus 12" sub? If you do, and you have listened to a Martin Logan Abyss sub, I would really appreciate your opinions between the two. I have the ML sub now, but I do like how the Bravus Looks, and the fact it has a built in eq, and that you can control it via IR...

Originally Posted by Roger That

30-day in-home trial. Why not get it and do an A-B in your own listening environment?

Originally Posted by Wryker

I'll post again - anyone order/using their outdoor speakers?

Originally Posted by Ray906

I plan to buy some....I live close to the Aperion offices and always stop in for a listen before I purchase....They just haven't had time to mount a pair so I can have a good listen....so when I do I will let you know how they sound.

Originally Posted by jedmo

Anyone here own the Bravus 12" sub? If you do, and you have listened to a Martin Logan Abyss sub, I would really appreciate your opinions between the two. I have the ML sub now, but I do like how the Bravus Looks, and the fact it has a built in eq, and that you can control it via IR...

Originally Posted by Halfbaked459

I have had the 12D for about a year and have auditioned the Abyss at a local vendor here in beaverton, or who since was shut down. This is not going to be comprehensive, but the room was huge and the ML did provide some very good low's... BUT the 12D has more power and dual subs, my dog is quite used to the setup (sleeps on the hardwoods about 3 ft away during movies) but yesterday I was running 65hz test tones through it, scared my poor dog into his kennel, and provided some serious SPL throughout my 2000cu/ft room. Seriously happy with it, would recommend do keep it in check (moderate volume) for the first 50hrs, I fried the amp at high volume. Aperion was freaking awesome about it (I also told them I was retarded) and replaced the whole setup free of charge. After about 100hrs the thing opened up into a new realm for the room. At this point I can throw anything I want at it, from Hip-Hop to The Dark Knight at rediculous volume for extended periods. Which is kinda why I never bothered doing any calibrations or measurments until now. IMHO a single 12 with a 300w amp isnt going to compete with a dual 12 running more power. The ML is good you can get more from the Bravus. Hope my experience helps you, if not hope you dont feel dumber for listening to my rant.

Regards,
Donnie B