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post #4051 of 6523
4/15/10 at 3:44am
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Originally Posted by Puppetz View Post

I have the 6Ts as well and do quite a bit of stereo listening. "Muddy" is one word I would never use to describe these speakers. Rather, they are remarkably clear, transparent, and natural sounding- what you feed 'em is what you'll hear. And I for one love the sound.

So I too will do alot of stereo listening on a 5.1 setup and am considering a Yamaha RX-V2700 based on what little i know about features/power/tone.
I want decent beginner quality and need the 2nd zone/preamp option too.

Heres the question.... Is there a feature or attribute to the better 5.1 AVR's that would make it a good match for this type speaker in a stereo setting ?

Thanks to you all for sharing your knowledge of this stuff. Think back to when you first got bit by it and thats where I am....relatively clueless.
Damn its hard to have a budget with this stuff. It changed twice already.
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post #4052 of 6523
4/15/10 at 7:44am
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Originally Posted by EastMark View Post

Heres the question.... Is there a feature or attribute to the better 5.1 AVR's that would make it a good match for this type speaker in a stereo setting ?

Mark

I'm a bit of a purist and I think a direct analog pass-through is very important. If you ever want to use a high quality external DAC, you don't want the AVR re-digitizing the analog signal. Otherwise, strong power supply and amp are probably the most critical. The Harman Kardon AVR2600 and AVR3600 meet all these qualities.
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post #4053 of 6523
4/19/10 at 7:54am
List them here please:

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Dan
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post #4054 of 6523
4/19/10 at 10:41am
Hi guys,

How do the Aperions handle distortion? Mostly referring to Heavy/Death/Black Metal music. I've heard people listening to (c)rap and r&b on cheaper than dirt speakers and it sounds ok (to them). I can't get past the headache myself. But when I play my music on said speakers, SQ is horrible.

Don't get me wrong, I love classic rock and some alternative as well and like classical. But it always seems I need a better system than average for Metal to sound good.

I had a 1999 Honda Civic Hatchback, and put in JL Audio 6.5 components, 6x9's and a 12" sealed sub with Kenwood Excellon amps and it sounded amazing. Take the same CD and play it on a factory system and it's horrible. Bass was tight, especially the fast paced double bass kicks. I think the range that I'm talking about is mid-bass. Most cheap speakers lack that. Most r&b stuff is bass and treble eh?

My benchmark CD is basically any Opeth album. Both Watershed and The Grand Conjuration have absolutely the best dynamic range and musical ability that I have ever heard. Acoustic to Distortion, Folk to Death Metal and great synthesizer. The vocal prowess of Michael Akerfeldt going from clean to growl is hands down the best talent I have ever heard. I usually don't like like clean male vocals, but this guy is an exception.

With the pending purchace of a new home, I will finally have a living room big enough for a good 5.1 system. I will mostly be watching TV with the fam and maybe a BR once a week. Depending on how much the wife likes the sound, we may listen to more music. My music will only be played while the wife is not in the house LOL!

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post #4055 of 6523
4/19/10 at 10:54am
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List them here please:

Thanks...
Dan

David Foster & Friends ($20 on Amazon)
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post #4056 of 6523
4/19/10 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by dlenart25 View Post

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Thanks...
Dan

Hi Dan. If you like rock, I suggest either Rush: Snakes & Arrows Live or Metallica: Francais Pour Une Nuit. The Rush album sounds extremely clear, detailed, and full. Plus the PQ is really good too. I admit I don't have the Metallica Blu yet (waiting for the price to drop), but I've heard it has great SQ.
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post #4057 of 6523
4/20/10 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by vipervick View Post

Hi guys,

How do the Aperions handle distortion? Mostly referring to Heavy/Death/Black Metal music. I've heard people listening to (c)rap and r&b on cheaper than dirt speakers and it sounds ok (to them). I can't get past the headache myself. But when I play my music on said speakers, SQ is horrible.

Don't get me wrong, I love classic rock and some alternative as well and like classical. But it always seems I need a better system than average for Metal to sound good.

I had a 1999 Honda Civic Hatchback, and put in JL Audio 6.5 components, 6x9's and a 12" sealed sub with Kenwood Excellon amps and it sounded amazing. Take the same CD and play it on a factory system and it's horrible. Bass was tight, especially the fast paced double bass kicks. I think the range that I'm talking about is mid-bass. Most cheap speakers lack that. Most r&b stuff is bass and treble eh?





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your problem with the music thing is crossover points/equilization and speaker excursion. Most of the metal frequencies except for the double bassing we love, is bunched up around the mid to top AND the notes are fast. playing the wrong frequencies even good speakers sound bad. thats why your car sytem sounded so good to you because of your jl audios (and their separate tweeter im assuming) handling those higher frequencies while your 6x9s gave you the rest of the middle to lows and they all received the proper information from your amps. a midrange speaker trying to move (excursion) and play double bass while trying to choke out an electric guitar solo at the same time is just bad for everyone.

i dont have the aperions yet but from what ive read of how they handle music and their response to rapidly played notes, with proper settings you should be fine. I only answered because I am into all music (from slayer to killswitch to brad paisley to mos def) and have had 5k+ watt car systems, and i wouldnt run the same settings between those types of music, which is what happened when u played metal with r&b settings. one of my first lessons learned: proper frequency distribution (and clean power which you got from multiple amps in your car) is paramount. so its not just the speakers make sure your amplification choices are adequate.
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post #4058 of 6523
4/21/10 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by Puppetz View Post

Hi Dan. If you like rock, I suggest either Rush: Snakes & Arrows Live or Metallica: Francais Pour Une Nuit. The Rush album sounds extremely clear, detailed, and full. Plus the PQ is really good too. I admit I don't have the Metallica Blu yet (waiting for the price to drop), but I've heard it has great SQ.

Thanks Guys.
I've added Rush snakes and arrows and HIT MAN David Foster and Freinds Blue Rays to my Netflix queue
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post #4059 of 6523
4/23/10 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by dlenart25 View Post

Thanks Guys.
I've added Rush snakes and arrows and HIT MAN David Foster and Freinds Blue Rays to my Netflix queue

I haven't heard them on the Aperions, but I really like the Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live at Radio City Music Hall on Blu-Ray. The guitars sound awesome!
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post #4060 of 6523
4/23/10 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by Blueste View Post

I haven't heard them on the Aperions, but I really like the Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live at Radio City Music Hall on Blu-Ray. The guitars sound awesome!

Thanks for the recommendation Blueste. I will check that one out to.
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post #4061 of 6523
4/23/10 at 12:22pm
I was thinkin of getting some Aperion speakers glass black. For you guys who use these in your theater do you have issues with reflection off of the speaker because of the gloss paint?
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post #4062 of 6523
4/23/10 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

I was thinkin of getting some Aperion speakers glass black. For you guys who use these in your theater do you have issues with reflection off of the speaker because of the gloss paint?

I have a 7.1 system with the piano black finish. If you have LED lights turned on they will reflect on them. I keep my "man's room" in darkness and have taped over all the receiver, PS3, etc 'power lights' to cut out all lights. I noticed reflections from the lights on the Wii charger base and if I have anything else 'LED'-type turned on (like the blue LED light on my new Dell laptop power brick will reflect).
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post #4063 of 6523
4/23/10 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

I have a 7.1 system with the piano black finish. If you have LED lights turned on they will reflect on them. I keep my "man's room" in darkness and have taped over all the receiver, PS3, etc 'power lights' to cut out all lights. I noticed reflections from the lights on the Wii charger base and if I have anything else 'LED'-type turned on (like the blue LED light on my new Dell laptop power brick will reflect).

My components are stored in the back of the room in a cabinet. I'm more concerned if the image off my 126" screen is going to be reflecting of the gloss black speaker. Aperion told me I shouldn't have a problem but I wanted to get confirmation here. Reflections off the speaker will be detracting to me.
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post #4064 of 6523
4/23/10 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

I was thinkin of getting some Aperion speakers glass black. For you guys who use these in your theater do you have issues with reflection off of the speaker because of the gloss paint?

I asked the same question a few weeks ago and got "no" from owners. I'm going with a 106" screen but ill be sittin further back than u wil. I don't know which speakers you'll go with but I figured if the 6ts flanking the screen do reflect ill drape the black bags they come in over the insides.
Oh and good job on your theater
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post #4065 of 6523
4/25/10 at 1:09am
Hello all! I'm in the process of furnishing a new home and I of course prioritized my home theater/family room. Ha. I have a 54" Panasonic VT25 as my centerpiece, so I want a sound system to match.

I was pretty much set on getting the Definitive Technology Mythos STS system. Reviews from professional sources generally rave. I'm a research fanatic, however, and I came across Aperion speakers during my research. The reviews seem almost as impressive, especially given the value. So to that end, I'm hoping for some advice.

My family room (lord, I'll never know the difference between family and living room...) opens up into the kitchen (as the included photo shows). It's about 14 feet wide to 30 feet deep, including the kitchen. The family room itself is about 16 feet. I intend to have my couches (when they get here!!!) set about 8-9 feet away from my TV. The right side (if facing the TV) is all wall, while the left side has four windows.

For a room about this size, the interactive system building on Aperion suggests the 5T, 5C, 5DB, and Bravus 10D sub.

Anyone have this setup and more ideally, considered the Mythos line as well? Or have a somewhat similar room setup as well? I have to admit, the price seems right for what I'd be getting.

Currently, I'm running two HITB Onkyo left/right speakers with a mirage center channel and surrounds, powered by an Onkyo 605. I'm planning on upgrading to the Onkyo 608 or 708 (when it comes out). My guess is that I'd hear a substantial improvement going with either the Definitive Tech or Aperion, but I'd love to hear advice.

Thanks in advance!
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post #4066 of 6523
4/25/10 at 5:36am
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Originally Posted by archangel37 View Post

Hello all! I'm in the process of furnishing a new home and I of course prioritized my home theater/family room. Ha. I have a 54" Panasonic VT25 as my centerpiece, so I want a sound system to match.

I was pretty much set on getting the Definitive Technology Mythos STS system. Reviews from professional sources generally rave. I'm a research fanatic, however, and I came across Aperion speakers during my research. The reviews seem almost as impressive, especially given the value. So to that end, I'm hoping for some advice.

My family room (lord, I'll never know the difference between family and living room...) opens up into the kitchen (as the included photo shows). It's about 14 feet wide to 30 feet deep, including the kitchen. The family room itself is about 16 feet. I intend to have my couches (when they get here!!!) set about 8-9 feet away from my TV. The right side (if facing the TV) is all wall, while the left side has four windows.

For a room about this size, the interactive system building on Aperion suggests the 5T, 5C, 5DB, and Bravus 10D sub.

Anyone have this setup and more ideally, considered the Mythos line as well? Or have a somewhat similar room setup as well? I have to admit, the price seems right for what I'd be getting.

Currently, I'm running two HITB Onkyo left/right speakers with a mirage center channel and surrounds, powered by an Onkyo 605. I'm planning on upgrading to the Onkyo 608 or 708 (when it comes out). My guess is that I'd hear a substantial improvement going with either the Definitive Tech or Aperion, but I'd love to hear advice.

Thanks in advance!

It looks like the fireplace might be in the way as I understand you placement.

Cheers
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post #4067 of 6523
4/25/10 at 8:40am
I am considering running an identical front sounstage under a wall mounted 52" LCD at about a 10ft viewing distance. The fact that they are front ported (helping with close to wall placement) and that it sounds like they do not benefit from toeing in at all (or at least not significantly) means that these look like ideal speakers for this task. I am also thinking about running smaller dual subs (4T-sub-4T-sub-4T) because I like the symetrical look to round out the bottom end. AVR is a Marantz SR6003. The Marantz is a solid amp with good power but the 4T's seem a little low on sensitivity. Anyone see the need for me to look any further than the 4T for the front sounstage? Would an external amp help?
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post #4068 of 6523
4/25/10 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by dynaudio View Post

It looks like the fireplace might be in the way as I understand you placement.

Cheers

There's a cove directly next to the fireplace that should have plenty of space for what I'm thinking. But it will mean my center location on my couch will be a bit close to the right surround speaker.

I also noticed the lower sensitivity of the Aperion line versus the Definitive Tech Mythos line. I wonder how much of a difference that will mean, practically. Will it force me to go with the Onkyo 708 (when it comes out) versus getting away with the Onkyo 608 receiver?
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post #4069 of 6523
4/25/10 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by archangel37 View Post

Hello all! I'm in the process of furnishing a new home and I of course prioritized my home theater/family room. Ha. I have a 54" Panasonic VT25 as my centerpiece, so I want a sound system to match.

I was pretty much set on getting the Definitive Technology Mythos STS system. Reviews from professional sources generally rave. I'm a research fanatic, however, and I came across Aperion speakers during my research. The reviews seem almost as impressive, especially given the value. So to that end, I'm hoping for some advice.

My family room (lord, I'll never know the difference between family and living room...) opens up into the kitchen (as the included photo shows). It's about 14 feet wide to 30 feet deep, including the kitchen. The family room itself is about 16 feet. I intend to have my couches (when they get here!!!) set about 8-9 feet away from my TV. The right side (if facing the TV) is all wall, while the left side has four windows.

For a room about this size, the interactive system building on Aperion suggests the 5T, 5C, 5DB, and Bravus 10D sub.

Anyone have this setup and more ideally, considered the Mythos line as well? Or have a somewhat similar room setup as well? I have to admit, the price seems right for what I'd be getting.

Currently, I'm running two HITB Onkyo left/right speakers with a mirage center channel and surrounds, powered by an Onkyo 605. I'm planning on upgrading to the Onkyo 608 or 708 (when it comes out). My guess is that I'd hear a substantial improvement going with either the Definitive Tech or Aperion, but I'd love to hear advice.

Thanks in advance!

I have Aperion 6T's front, 6C center, and 5T's for surround. Recently I thought to replace the Aperions with the Mythos ST system because of room reflection problems when trying to incoorporate a stand-alone subwoofer. I thought the ST towers would help to solve this problem. Well I was sorely disappointed. The ST's were decent speakers and did go about 10-15 Hz deeper than my 6T's but were very directional compared to my 6T's and did not help with the room reflection problem. I think I could have lived with the ST towers but I was not at all happy with the other speakers in the Mythos ST package (Mythos Ten center, Mythos GEM XL surrounds). I thought they sounded tinny and were even more directional than the ST towers. The Ten center, in particular, was a disappointment. Even with it angled up to my listening position, I could tell the sound was coming from below the TV. The Aperion 6C is far superior. Keep in mind that all of the Mythos line, other than the ST and STS towers, are primarily designed for on-wall mounting. I think this will always be a compromise to sound quality and it was obvious to me that Mythos were no different than most other wall mount designs.

Consider too all the advertising Def Tech does on the Mythos line. If you were a magazine reviewer with a big Def Tech ad every month, I think it must be a little difficult to be impartial.

In the end, I quickly and happily unpacked my Aperions and packed up the Mythos speakers and returned them. It will turn out to be an expensive lesson... about $800 in shipping and restocking fees. This is another reason the Aperions are such a good deal. If you don't like them, it won't cost you a penny to return them. But I bet you will like them.
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post #4070 of 6523
4/25/10 at 3:18pm
Sean,

I really appreciate the feedback. Although the I'm sure the rave reviews of the DefTech Mythos line are more than advertising, it's hard to argue with a straight face that those magazines aren't a little influenced.

If you don't mind me asking, what receiver are you using to power this speakers? As I noted above, the Aperions have a lower efficiency rating than the STS line, so that my factor into which receiver I end up buying as well.

In the end, it's hard not to at least try the Aperion line - it's such a great deal with such a great return policy. I'm definitely leaning in that direction.

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I have Aperion 6T's front, 6C center, and 5T's for surround. Recently I thought to replace the Aperions with the Mythos ST system because of room reflection problems when trying to incoorporate a stand-alone subwoofer. I thought the ST towers would help to solve this problem. Well I was sorely disappointed. The ST's were decent speakers and did go about 10-15 Hz deeper than my 6T's but were very directional compared to my 6T's and did not help with the room reflection problem. I think I could have lived with the ST towers but I was not at all happy with the other speakers in the Mythos ST package (Mythos Ten center, Mythos GEM XL surrounds). I thought they sounded tinny and were even more directional than the ST towers. The Ten center, in particular, was a disappointment. Even with it angled up to my listening position, I could tell the sound was coming from below the TV. The Aperion 6C is far superior. Keep in mind that all of the Mythos line, other than the ST and STS towers, are primarily designed for on-wall mounting. I think this will always be a compromise to sound quality and it was obvious to me that Mythos were no different than most other wall mount designs.

Consider too all the advertising Def Tech does on the Mythos line. If you were a magazine reviewer with a big Def Tech ad every month, I think it must be a little difficult to be impartial.

In the end, I quickly and happily unpacked my Aperions and packed up the Mythos speakers and returned them. It will turn out to be an expensive lesson... about $800 in shipping and restocking fees. This is another reason the Aperions are such a good deal. If you don't like them, it won't cost you a penny to return them. But I bet you will like them.
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post #4071 of 6523
4/25/10 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by archangel37 View Post

Sean,

I really appreciate the feedback. Although the I'm sure the rave reviews of the DefTech Mythos line are more than advertising, it's hard to argue with a straight face that those magazines aren't a little influenced.

If you don't mind me asking, what receiver are you using to power this speakers? As I noted above, the Aperions have a lower efficiency rating than the STS line, so that my factor into which receiver I end up buying as well.

In the end, it's hard not to at least try the Aperion line - it's such a great deal with such a great return policy. I'm definitely leaning in that direction.

I have a Rotel RMB-1565 amp running through a Harman Kardon AVR-3600 as a pre-pro, but I started out with an older HK AVR-225 and even this modest AVR had no problem with the 6T's. The Aperions are not hard to drive and clearly were more efficient than my previous Wharfedale speakers. I think the efficiency ratings for the ST's and STS's are a little deceptive because of the built-in amplifier. And based on my own brief experience with the Mythos system, I don't believe that the Mythos centers and surrounds were more efficient than my Aperions.
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post #4072 of 6523
4/26/10 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by Dermott View Post

I am considering running an identical front sounstage under a wall mounted 52" LCD at about a 10ft viewing distance. The fact that they are front ported (helping with close to wall placement) and that it sounds like they do not benefit from toeing in at all (or at least not significantly) means that these look like ideal speakers for this task. I am also thinking about running smaller dual subs (4T-sub-4T-sub-4T) because I like the symetrical look to round out the bottom end. AVR is a Marantz SR6003. The Marantz is a solid amp with good power but the 4T's seem a little low on sensitivity. Anyone see the need for me to look any further than the 4T for the front sounstage? Would an external amp help?

It depends on a couple things as to whether the 4Ts will be sufficient for your needs.

First and foremost is whether the system is primarily for movies or music, if it's mostly movies then they should be plenty. If you are doing a good amount of music then you might think about the 5Ts for the bump in the midrange that you'll get from them.

Second is the room size, which isn't as important since you are fairly close at 10 feet, but if the room is large (over 20'X20') that will certainly cut down on how much reflected sound you will hear and is another factor that can make the 5Ts worth considering.

Most folks would find a 100wpc Marantz to be plenty at that distance, so you should be fine there. But if you want to add an amp down the road it can only help their performance.

Hope that helps!
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post #4073 of 6523
4/26/10 at 5:43pm
Would the added height of the 5T cause any issues with the LCD viewing angle? I wanted the LCD to be mounted flush with no downward tilt.
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post #4074 of 6523
4/27/10 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by Dermott View Post

Would the added height of the 5T cause any issues with the LCD viewing angle? I wanted the LCD to be mounted flush with no downward tilt.

It's only a four inch difference. . .
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post #4075 of 6523
5/3/10 at 1:26pm
The death of my center channel on my very crappy set of 5.1 speakers has led me to look to upgrade, and I have a some questions regarding amperion speakers.

I have a very small room, 11x11 and it laid out pretty bad. The tv is in one corner, the viewing area is the opposite corner, and most of the other walls are taken up with either very large doorways or windows. As such, everything needs to be small and mounted on the ceiling. Everything will be powered by an Onkyo 605.

I am looking into the picking up only the front end, the Intimus 4c and two Intimus 4b for the front left and right. Since this is sort of an emergency purchase, (due to a inoperable speaker) I don't have the funds to but my surrounds or a new sub at this time, but would eventually pick up another two 4bs for the surrounds.

My questions are as follows:

1. How would I mount them. I see that Amperion sells a ceiling mounting bracket, but I don't see a mounting thread on any of the pictures that I have seen of the speakers.
2. Can I use a third/party mounting bracket... or do I need to use the ones aperion sells. (I already have mounting brackets mounted on my ceiling- though I am not opposed to using the new ones)
3. Mounting the center could be a problem, as the center (along with the TV) is caddy corner... any thoughts?
4. Do you for see a problem using an ameperion front end, with a different manufactures surrounds as a short term solution. It could take me a while to get the surrounds, but it is my understanding that timber matching is not as important for the surrounds.
5. Finally, the C-net review of the 4B and the 4C seemed to hint at a problem with the matching between them, with the 4c center being slightly warmer. Anybody else experience the same?

Any other thoughts are appreciated, and thank you for your time

Matt Schaefer
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5/5/10 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by meschaefer View Post

The death of my center channel on my very crappy set of 5.1 speakers has led me to look to upgrade, and I have a some questions regarding amperion speakers.

I have a very small room, 11x11 and it laid out pretty bad. The tv is in one corner, the viewing area is the opposite corner, and most of the other walls are taken up with either very large doorways or windows. As such, everything needs to be small and mounted on the ceiling. Everything will be powered by an Onkyo 605.

I am looking into the picking up only the front end, the Intimus 4c and two Intimus 4b for the front left and right. Since this is sort of an emergency purchase, (due to a inoperable speaker) I don't have the funds to but my surrounds or a new sub at this time, but would eventually pick up another two 4bs for the surrounds.

My questions are as follows:

1. How would I mount them. I see that Amperion sells a ceiling mounting bracket, but I don't see a mounting thread on any of the pictures that I have seen of the speakers.
2. Can I use a third/party mounting bracket... or do I need to use the ones aperion sells. (I already have mounting brackets mounted on my ceiling- though I am not opposed to using the new ones)
3. Mounting the center could be a problem, as the center (along with the TV) is caddy corner... any thoughts?
4. Do you for see a problem using an ameperion front end, with a different manufactures surrounds as a short term solution. It could take me a while to get the surrounds, but it is my understanding that timber matching is not as important for the surrounds.
5. Finally, the C-net review of the 4B and the 4C seemed to hint at a problem with the matching between them, with the 4c center being slightly warmer. Anybody else experience the same?

Any other thoughts are appreciated, and thank you for your time

Matt Schaefer


Hello Matt,

Thanks for your inquiry. We do sell wall mounts for the 4Bs, you can view them here:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...47,40,776.aspx

That same mount will hold the 4C as well, so perhaps that will work for you. If not, I'd probably install a short shelf that spans the corner if you can and place the 4C on that.

You may be able to use a third party mount, I can tell you that the pre-drilled inserts on the back of our speakers are 2.5" apart.

It's most important to match your front and center speakers, while it's not ideal you can use a different brand of surrounds if you wish, especially if it will only be temporarily.

I myself don't hear a timbre mismatch between the 4Bs and 4C, which makes sense since they use the same woofer and tweeter, but perhaps others out there have different opinions.

Hope that helps, but please let me know if you have any other questions, thanks!
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post #4077 of 6523
5/5/10 at 7:27pm
I'm just looking for some possible suggestions to raise up my 5T's by 2 to 3 inches. I use the 5T's as surrounds and one of them is right beside my couch and slightly blocked by the couch. The lower mid-woofer is just above the arm of the couch but the port is blocked and I can definitely hear a difference in timbre between the right and left surround. Due to room size and shape, there is not much I can do to re-orient the surrounds... thus the idea to raise them up.

I see Auralex makes some acoustic-type platforms for speakers but these seem to be designed for smaller bookshelf speakers and would place the speakers at an angle. I need a simple flat platform.

Any ideas ?
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post #4078 of 6523
5/6/10 at 8:01am
I'm putting the finishing touches on the media room and have found that I have a few limitations in my design of the media center. The room is about 12'w and 9'd with a sloped ceiling that goes from 4' (top of the media center) to 8' and then it's a flat ceiling for the rest. Total volume is less than 900cuft. I have attached a picture to help. I built cabinets to place the front speakers inside of on either side of the TV, the dimensions of the front speakers location is about 21"w x 11" h x 12"d. The one option for the center speaker is on the top shelf above the TV, but depth and height are limiting factors, and the other would be under the TV. Under the TV gives a little more room as I can mount the TV to the back and gain some more speaker height. The surrounds are wide open and don't create any issues. But the sub does, as it can not be very wide- 13" max.

Here's what I'm thinking-
Fronts- Intimus- 4B (the the 5B's are to high)
Center- Intimus- 4C - (this would go under the TV and I may be able to fit the Intimus 5C)
Rears- Intimus- 4BP
Sub- HSU STF-1

How will the Intimus- 4B do as front speakers? How would the Intimus 5C match with the 4B fronts?
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5/6/10 at 1:07pm
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I'm just looking for some possible suggestions to raise up my 5T's by 2 to 3 inches. I use the 5T's as surrounds and one of them is right beside my couch and slightly blocked by the couch. The lower mid-woofer is just above the arm of the couch but the port is blocked and I can definitely hear a difference in timbre between the right and left surround. Due to room size and shape, there is not much I can do to re-orient the surrounds... thus the idea to raise them up.

I see Auralex makes some acoustic-type platforms for speakers but these seem to be designed for smaller bookshelf speakers and would place the speakers at an angle. I need a simple flat platform.

Any ideas ?

Looks like you can place the speakerdudes upside down so they are flat. They are about an inch and a half more narrow than the 5T base though so it may not be terribly stable. If it were me I'd try and find some stiff packing foam (such as EPE) and cut some blocks out of that, but the speakerdudes might work too.

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I'm putting the finishing touches on the media room and have found that I have a few limitations in my design of the media center. The room is about 12'w and 9'd with a sloped ceiling that goes from 4' (top of the media center) to 8' and then it's a flat ceiling for the rest. Total volume is less than 900cuft. I have attached a picture to help. I built cabinets to place the front speakers inside of on either side of the TV, the dimensions of the front speakers location is about 21"w x 11" h x 12"d. The one option for the center speaker is on the top shelf above the TV, but depth and height are limiting factors, and the other would be under the TV. Under the TV gives a little more room as I can mount the TV to the back and gain some more speaker height. The surrounds are wide open and don't create any issues. But the sub does, as it can not be very wide- 13" max.

Here's what I'm thinking-
Fronts- Intimus- 4B (the the 5B's are to high)
Center- Intimus- 4C - (this would go under the TV and I may be able to fit the Intimus 5C)
Rears- Intimus- 4BP
Sub- HSU STF-1

How will the Intimus- 4B do as front speakers? How would the Intimus 5C match with the 4B fronts?

In a small room like that for primarily movies/TV the 4Bs should serve you quite well. Since your room is only 9 feet deep the 4C should be plenty too, but if you want to go up to the 5C you will get more dialog clarity. The 5C and the 4B are timbre matched so there's no issue with mixing them together if you do go that route.
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5/6/10 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by fwsiv View Post

I'm putting the finishing touches on the media room and have found that I have a few limitations in my design of the media center. The room is about 12'w and 9'd with a sloped ceiling that goes from 4' (top of the media center) to 8' and then it's a flat ceiling for the rest. Total volume is less than 900cuft. I have attached a picture to help. I built cabinets to place the front speakers inside of on either side of the TV, the dimensions of the front speakers location is about 21"w x 11" h x 12"d. The one option for the center speaker is on the top shelf above the TV, but depth and height are limiting factors, and the other would be under the TV. Under the TV gives a little more room as I can mount the TV to the back and gain some more speaker height. The surrounds are wide open and don't create any issues. But the sub does, as it can not be very wide- 13" max.

Here's what I'm thinking-
Fronts- Intimus- 4B (the the 5B's are to high)
Center- Intimus- 4C - (this would go under the TV and I may be able to fit the Intimus 5C)
Rears- Intimus- 4BP
Sub- HSU STF-1

How will the Intimus- 4B do as front speakers? How would the Intimus 5C match with the 4B fronts?

You might want to go with 3 4Cs. The 4C will crossover very well with the sub using a crossover freq. of 100Hz. The 4Bs don't go quit that low.

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