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post #4561 of 6571
11/3/10 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by jonLavs View Post

To me the Verus Grand bookshelf is in between the 5B & 6B with an upgraded tweeter and better sensitivity. I'm sure it sounds great and all, but I would think that the 5T would be a fuller sounding speaker with two 5.25" woofers versus just one 5" woofer in the bookshelf.

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Originally Posted by BESLC View Post

Izeteci/Jonlavs

I am in the process of doing an upgrade to the Verus towers and center for the front stage, I currently have 4-5T's and a 5C.

My thoughts were to replace the 2-5T fronts and the 5C, keeping as Jon indicated the other two 5T's for the surrounds. I am not sure I understand your reasoning Izeteci, on going to a bookshelf over the 5T? I would think as Jon indicated the 5T would be a better speaker between the two.

I am interested in your thoughts, thank you for your time.

Well to start I only use the 5Ts for surround so a nice tower is a little overkill.
I used to have the 5DBs but I didn't feel like mounting them on the wall again in my new apartment so I switched to the 5Ts. They sound great but I have them on concrete blocks just to get them up to ear height and I really need them higher but I don't want to add more blocks. Right now if you sit in one of the seats far right or far left your head is almost right next two the speaker and it can be a little much. In the centered listening position it sounds great.

So that's a little back ground. Also it's not a big deal but my wife did bring up the point that my black 5Ts don't match my new cherry VG speakers.

Any ways,

I would say the VGB is more between the 6B and 5T. I don't think the 5B is even close in stats and sound.

5B = (+/- 3dB) 75 - 20,000Hz
6B = (+/- 3dB) 48 - 20,000 Hz
5T = (+/- 3dB) 55 - 20,000 Hz
VGB = (+/- 3dB) 59-20,000 Hz

The VGB also has a phase plug for smoother mids, better power handling and less distortion. Also the new tweeter is crossed over lower than the old tweeter to take off a little bit of the upper mids from the woofer.

I would say the 6B or 5T has a bit more bass extension but that's about it.
After listening to the new bookshelf speakers it really got me thinking about replacing my 5Ts.

I bet the VGB with the 8D or 10D for a 2ch set up would sound great.

I hope this helps explain my thinking a little better.

I really wished they redid the 4BP with two new tweeters and the 4" woofer with a phase plug. I bet you it would sound amazing!!!! Oh well
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post #4562 of 6571
11/3/10 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post

Well to start I only use the 5Ts for surround so a nice tower is a little overkill.

LOL. It's never overkill. I plan on getting 6Ts for my surrounds. What is this phase plug you're talking about?
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post #4563 of 6571
11/3/10 at 9:56am
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Originally Posted by jonLavs View Post

LOL. It's never overkill. I plan on getting 6Ts for my surrounds. What is this phase plug you're talking about?

The whole VG series speakers are now using phase plugs on there mid-woofers.

Summery:

"Phase Plug Technology

In any conventional loudspeaker, the highest frequencies of audio emanate from the area around the center of the cone and the lower frequencies are produced by the area of the cone that is farther from the center. In fact, the distance from the center at which a sound wave will come off a loudspeaker cone is directly related to its frequency. This helps explain why larger cone loudspeakers are usually capable of producing more bass.

Due to the shape of the conventional loudspeaker cone, the higher frequency sound waves tend to collide at a focal point. This causes phase distortion and a loss in clarity. As a result, accuracy and transparency suffer. This also has detrimental effects on the realism of the sound environments created by today's high fidelity digital audio and surround sound systems.

The phase plug pole piece extension improves driver performance and clarity by deflecting delicate midrange audio out into the sound space and minimizing distortion producing collisions."

I just found this on a site.

This mixed with the new tweeter makes for a nice clear smooth open sound.

I agree about the over kill think. If I had a much bigger room I would love to have a 7.2 setup with 6 towers :-) My room is only 16x14x8. I have my couch on the back wall so I don't have a lot of room.
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post #4564 of 6571
11/3/10 at 10:12am
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post

Well to start I only use the 5Ts for surround so a nice tower is a little overkill.
I used to have the 5DBs but I didn't feel like mounting them on the wall again in my new apartment so I switched to the 5Ts. They sound great but I have them on concrete blocks just to get them up to ear height and I really need them higher but I don't want to add more blocks. Right now if you sit in one of the seats far right or far left your head is almost right next two the speaker and it can be a little much. In the centered listening position it sounds great.

So that's a little back ground. Also it's not a big deal but my wife did bring up the point that my black 5Ts don't match my new cherry VG speakers.

Any ways,

I would say the VGB is more between the 6B and 5T. I don't think the 5B is even close in stats and sound.

5B = (+/- 3dB) 75 - 20,000Hz
6B = (+/- 3dB) 48 - 20,000 Hz
5T = (+/- 3dB) 55 - 20,000 Hz
VGB = (+/- 3dB) 59-20,000 Hz

The VGB also has a phase plug for smoother mids, better power handling and less distortion. Also the new tweeter is crossed over lower than the old tweeter to take off a little bit of the upper mids from the woofer.

I would say the 6B or 5T has a bit more bass extension but that's about it.
After listening to the new bookshelf speakers it really got me thinking about replacing my 5Ts.

I bet the VGB with the 8D or 10D for a 2ch set up would sound great.

I hope this helps explain my thinking a little better.

I really wished they redid the 4BP with two new tweeters and the 4" woofer with a phase plug. I bet you it would sound amazing!!!! Oh well


Thank you for explaining your reasoning. My reasoning when I opted for the 4-5T's was to get the most from the rears as well as the front stage. I am looking forward to VGT's in the front, I am sure the 5T's will compliment the VGT's nicely. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts.
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post #4565 of 6571
11/3/10 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by BESLC View Post

Thank you for explaining your reasoning. My reasoning when I opted for the 4-5T's was to get the most from the rears as well as the front stage. I am looking forward to VGT's in the front, I am sure the 5T's will compliment the VGT's nicely. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts.

Yes I'm sure the 5Ts will sound good. Quick question, how did you get the back 5T up higher or are you just leaving them on the floor?
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post #4566 of 6571
11/3/10 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by Blueste View Post

lorenzzo, Thanks for taking the time to post your impressions. The Verus sounds like a great speaker!! Blue

It is. Aperion should do really well with them. In fact, there's got to be somebody back at Aperion rubbing their hands together waiting to hike price. Don't mean to create paranoia but these are an awful lot of speaker for the money.
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post #4567 of 6571
11/3/10 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post

Yes I'm sure the 5Ts will sound good. Quick question, how did you get the back 5T up higher or are you just leaving them on the floor?

I just have mine on the floor. Personally I haven't had any issues with sound projection, which would require elevating them.
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post #4568 of 6571
11/3/10 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by BESLC View Post
I just have mine on the floor. Personally I haven't had any issues with sound projection, which would require elevating them.
You must have a larger room then me. I can't wait to see what you think about the new speakers.
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post #4569 of 6571
11/3/10 at 8:33pm
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Originally Posted by lorenzzo View Post
It is. Aperion should do really well with them. In fact, there's got to be somebody back at Aperion rubbing their hands together waiting to hike price. Don't mean to create paranoia but these are an awful lot of speaker for the money.
I agree it's not really that much more for the new speakers. But it is nice to have a speaker that sounds and looks like a more expensive speaker. For someone like me that can't afford super expensive speakers this is a great value.

I can't wait until I get a house so I can have a real set up.
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post #4570 of 6571
11/3/10 at 8:47pm
Why doesn't any body post on Aperion's forum versus here?
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post #4571 of 6571
11/3/10 at 9:22pm
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post
Why doesn't any body post on Aperion's forum versus here?
I have been. Just not as much traffic I suppose.
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post #4572 of 6571
11/3/10 at 9:35pm
Hello all. First post here.

I need some advice in selecting some speakers. I currently have B&W 684 towers being pushed by Emotiva UPA-1 monoblock amps. Earlier today I finally broke down and ordered an Emotiva XPA-5 that I would like to use to power my center and two sets of surrounds for a 7.2 HT setup. I have two Emotiva Ultra 12" powered subs to handle the low end.

OK, what I REALLY want to do is find some towers that I can run full range and NOT need to run my subs for music. My 684 towers are ok, but I would like something that could dig down quite a bit deeper. Also, I like to play music at rather high volumes and the aluminum dome tweeters in my B&Ws sound very harsh and sibilant when turned up loud. Because of this, I have decided that it is time for an upgrade.

I am currently leaning heavily toward the 6T towers because of their (rated) deeper bass extension and all of the reviews I have read that rave about their mid-range transparency. Also, I like the idea of going to a silk dome tweeter (as opposed to another metal tweeter) to avoid harshness and sibilance on the top end. However, the new Verus line is intriguging to me and I feel is worth discussing proir to placing an order.

So...what advice do you have for me? Can anyone give me a descriptive review of how the 6T or Verus towers sound at VERY high volumes? Are these speakers able to play deep, powerful bass so that a subwoofer is not needed? Will these speakers be a good match for my Emotiva amps?

All advice, thoughts, recommendations, ect are welcome.

Thanks for reading. -Dave
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post #4573 of 6571
11/4/10 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by painted_klown View Post

Hello all. First post here.

I need some advice in selecting some speakers. I currently have B&W 684 towers being pushed by Emotiva UPA-1 monoblock amps. Earlier today I finally broke down and ordered an Emotiva XPA-5 that I would like to use to power my center and two sets of surrounds for a 7.2 HT setup. I have two Emotiva Ultra 12" powered subs to handle the low end.

OK, what I REALLY want to do is find some towers that I can run full range and NOT need to run my subs for music. My 684 towers are ok, but I would like something that could dig down quite a bit deeper. Also, I like to play music at rather high volumes and the aluminum dome tweeters in my B&Ws sound very harsh and sibilant when turned up loud. Because of this, I have decided that it is time for an upgrade.

I am currently leaning heavily toward the 6T towers because of their (rated) deeper bass extension and all of the reviews I have read that rave about their mid-range transparency. Also, I like the idea of going to a silk dome tweeter (as opposed to another metal tweeter) to avoid harshness and sibilance on the top end. However, the new Verus line is intriguging to me and I feel is worth discussing proir to placing an order.

So...what advice do you have for me? Can anyone give me a descriptive review of how the 6T or Verus towers sound at VERY high volumes? Are these speakers able to play deep, powerful bass so that a subwoofer is not needed? Will these speakers be a good match for my Emotiva amps?

All advice, thoughts, recommendations, ect are welcome.

Thanks for reading. -Dave

Dave,

First off welcome to the forum.

There are a few of us here that have heard both the 6T and VGT. I ran three UPA-1s for the 6Ts and 6C now running them with the VGTs and VGC.

For your 7.2 set up will you be ordering new center and surround speakers as well?

I wish I knew what the 684s sounded like so I could make a comparison. One persons strong bass is another weak bass.

So I just looked on line and it looks like BB sells the 684s so maybe I will go in and listen to them a bit.

Can you give me a few example songs that you like to listen too that has bass.

-Zack
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post #4574 of 6571
11/4/10 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post

Dave,

First off welcome to the forum.

There are a few of us here that have heard both the 6T and VGT. I ran three UPA-1s for the 6Ts and 6C now running them with the VGTs and VGC.

For your 7.2 set up will you be ordering new center and surround speakers as well?

I wish I knew what the 684s sounded like so I could make a comparison. One persons strong bass is another weak bass.

So I just looked on line and it looks like BB sells the 684s so maybe I will go in and listen to them a bit.

Can you give me a few example songs that you like to listen too that has bass.

-Zack

Thanks Zack.

Yeah, the plan is to buy matching center and surround speakers for whatever "main" speakers I ultimately decide to go with. I feel that if the main speakers keep me happy for 2 channel listening (in which I listen more critically) then the matching HT speakers will be more than fine for me.

For bass heavy tracks I like to mix it up a bit. Some favorites include:

Pantera - Becoming from "Far beyond driven"
Black eyed peas - Boom boom pow, Imma be, and Missing you from "The E.N.D"
Jack Johnson - Sleep through the static from "Sleep through the static"
Dave Matthews Band - Don't drink the water from "Before These Crowded Streets"
Pink - One foot wrong and Please don't leave me from "Funhouse"
Sublime - Caress me down and Doin time from "Sublime"

The Pantera track also doubles as a great way to see what the speakers do with loud screechy guitars at high volumes. The B.E. Peas track Missing you and Pinks Please don't leave me are great tests for sibilance on female vocals. Also Norah Jones Sinking Soon from "Not too late" is a great test for sibilance on female vocals. I like to listen at (seriously) loud volumes and my B&W tweeters just do not deal well with these vocal tracks, although on the Pink record I attribute some of the harshness to the way that record was mastered. Modern mastering jobs seem to ruin otherwise decent recordings IMO.
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post #4575 of 6571
11/4/10 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by painted_klown View Post

Thanks Zack.

Yeah, the plan is to buy matching center and surround speakers for whatever "main" speakers I ultimately decide to go with. I feel that if the main speakers keep me happy for 2 channel listening (in which I listen more critically) then the matching HT speakers will be more than fine for me.

For bass heavy tracks I like to mix it up a bit. Some favorites include:

Pantera - Becoming from "Far beyond driven"
Black eyed peas - Boom boom pow, Imma be, and Missing you from "The E.N.D"
Jack Johnson - Sleep through the static from "Sleep through the static"
Dave Matthews Band - Don't drink the water from "Before These Crowded Streets"
Pink - One foot wrong and Please don't leave me from "Funhouse"
Sublime - Caress me down and Doin time from "Sublime"

The Pantera track also doubles as a great way to see what the speakers do with loud screechy guitars at high volumes. The B.E. Peas track Missing you and Pinks Please don't leave me are great tests for sibilance on female vocals. Also Norah Jones Sinking Soon from "Not too late" is a great test for sibilance on female vocals. I like to listen at (seriously) loud volumes and my B&W tweeters just do not deal well with these vocal tracks, although on the Pink record I attribute some of the harshness to the way that record was mastered. Modern mastering jobs seem to ruin otherwise decent recordings IMO.

Okay let me see if I can put a test CD together of some of your tracks and take it to BB to see if they will let me play it through the 684. Then I can take is to Aperion for some testing. Just for fun.

I can tell you that Boom Boom Pow played on either the 6Ts or VGTs sounds amazing. I used it on my VGT break in and with the sub off and listing at a moderate listening level it was shacking my whole room. Granted I'm only in a 16x14 room but i could have gotten it much louder.

Norah Jones is always a delight to test with. The VGTs portray voices very well IMO.

I dont know when I can goto best buy but I'm going over to Aperion soon to pick up some additional speakers so I might be able to do a true a/b between the 6Ts and VGTs with your songs. Also I would have to goto Aperion for the louder tests. i live in a townhouse apartments soooooo you know.
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post #4576 of 6571
11/4/10 at 10:33am
Pantera is going to be a tough one. Seems like so much heavy rock is recorded so poorly.

Maybe I will do some loud high end testing with something from Chevelle or Tool?
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post #4577 of 6571
11/4/10 at 10:40am
Staind - Zoe Jane......Another great rock speaker test (great vocals, acoustic guitar and electric guitar)

Sorry just going off into music land....now how am I supposed to work today.
I just want to go home and listen to music.
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post #4578 of 6571
11/4/10 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post

Okay let me see if I can put a test CD together of some of your tracks and take it to BB to see if they will let me play it through the 684. Then I can take is to Aperion for some testing. Just for fun.

I can tell you that Boom Boom Pow played on either the 6Ts or VGTs sounds amazing. I used it on my VGT break in and with the sub off and listing at a moderate listening level it was shacking my whole room. Granted I'm only in a 16x14 room but i could have gotten it much louder.

Norah Jones is always a delight to test with. The VGTs portray voices very well IMO.

I dont know when I can goto best buy but I'm going over to Aperion soon to pick up some additional speakers so I might be able to do a true a/b between the 6Ts and VGTs with your songs. Also I would have to goto Aperion for the louder tests. i live in a townhouse apartments soooooo you know.

Awesome! How would you say the bass on the 6T compares to the VGT bass? Does the 6T play noticeably deeper?

I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me with this, having a listen to the B&Ws will reveal to you exactly what I am talking about when I am saying they sound very harsh at high volumes. This is my number one concern with any speaker I audition. I need the drivers to stay nice and mellow when being driven to their limits.

I am figuring with the 300w rms rating for the Aperions vs. the 150w rating on my B&Ws, coupled with the silk dome tweeter of the Aperions and Presto!...smooth top end.

For the mid-range, I REALLY fell in love with B&Ws FST midrange drivers and initially I wanted to get a set of CM-9s for the longest time. Then I had a son so l had to scale back a bit on my purchasing. Long story short, I ended up with the 684 towers and have really been itching to get into something more fitting for my listening habits ever since.

I am hoping the Aperions will fit the bill.
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post #4579 of 6571
11/4/10 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by painted_klown View Post

Awesome! How would you say the bass on the 6T compares to the VGT bass? Does the 6T play noticeably deeper?

I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me with this, having a listen to the B&Ws will reveal to you exactly what I am talking about when I am saying they sound very harsh at high volumes. This is my number one concern with any speaker I audition. I need the drivers to stay nice and mellow when being driven to their limits.

I am figuring with the 300w rms rating for the Aperions vs. the 150w rating on my B&Ws, coupled with the silk dome tweeter of the Aperions and Presto!...smooth top end.

For the mid-range, I REALLY fell in love with B&Ws FST midrange drivers and initially I wanted to get a set of CM-9s for the longest time. Then I had a son so l had to scale back a bit on my purchasing. Long story short, I ended up with the 684 towers and have really been itching to get into something more fitting for my listening habits ever since.

I am hoping the Aperions will fit the bill.

When I get a chance i will go listen to the 684s.

As for bass and maybe others can chime in too but I actually feel like the VGTs have more bass "authority". They might not go as low as the 6Ts but they have a nice punch. Maybe it has something to do with the 6Ts running all it's mids and bass threw the same two drivers? With the VGTs being a 3 way speaker it's like combining the 5T and 6T into the same box with a new tweeter and updated woofers. The two 6.5" drives are now more focused just on lower mids and bass frequencies. But the 6T do go lower and still have a nice bass extension. As I'm writing this I really feel like it's a toss up. I think both the 6T and VGT have nice bottom end but I think they are just different on the way they portray it.
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post #4580 of 6571
11/5/10 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post
You must have a larger room then me. I can't wait to see what you think about the new speakers.
I will let you know my thoughts as soon as the VGT's and VGC arrive. I ordered the Gloss Black, which are back ordered ,due to ship 12/1.

I am going to keep the 5T's for my rear surround.
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post #4581 of 6571
11/5/10 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by BESLC View Post

I will let you know my thoughts as soon as the VGT's and VGC arrive. I ordered the Gloss Black, which are back ordered ,due to ship 12/1.

I am going to keep the 5T's for my rear surround.

It looks like I might have to keep my 5Ts for a little while. Got to save up more for HT upgrades.

I still need an amp for my surrounds as well. I'm still running them on my AVR.
So yeah I can't decide what to do first.
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post #4582 of 6571
11/5/10 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post

It looks like I might have to keep my 5Ts for a little while. Got to save up more for HT upgrades.

I still need an amp for my surrounds as well. I'm still running them on my AVR.
So yeah I can't decide what to do first.

Keeping the 5T's to compliment your VGT's is not a bad thing

I am really looking forward to the arrival of my VGT's. The 5T is an excellent speaker, I have certainly enjoyed the 4 I have.
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post #4583 of 6571
11/5/10 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by BESLC View Post

Keeping the 5T's to compliment your VGT's is not a bad thing

I am really looking forward to the arrival of my VGT's. The 5T is an excellent speaker, I have certainly enjoyed the 4 I have.

Yes I do agree the 5Ts are a good speaker. I think I'm just letting the upgrade bug get to me. Plus I like things to match. I still need to buy two more monoblock amps for my set up.

I think you going from the 5T to the VGT is going to be a nice upgrade.
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post #4584 of 6571
11/6/10 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by painted_klown View Post

Hello all. First post here.

I need some advice in selecting some speakers. I currently have B&W 684 towers being pushed by Emotiva UPA-1 monoblock amps. Earlier today I finally broke down and ordered an Emotiva XPA-5 that I would like to use to power my center and two sets of surrounds for a 7.2 HT setup. I have two Emotiva Ultra 12" powered subs to handle the low end.

OK, what I REALLY want to do is find some towers that I can run full range and NOT need to run my subs for music. My 684 towers are ok, but I would like something that could dig down quite a bit deeper. Also, I like to play music at rather high volumes and the aluminum dome tweeters in my B&Ws sound very harsh and sibilant when turned up loud. Because of this, I have decided that it is time for an upgrade.

I am currently leaning heavily toward the 6T towers because of their (rated) deeper bass extension and all of the reviews I have read that rave about their mid-range transparency. Also, I like the idea of going to a silk dome tweeter (as opposed to another metal tweeter) to avoid harshness and sibilance on the top end. However, the new Verus line is intriguging to me and I feel is worth discussing proir to placing an order.

So...what advice do you have for me? Can anyone give me a descriptive review of how the 6T or Verus towers sound at VERY high volumes? Are these speakers able to play deep, powerful bass so that a subwoofer is not needed? Will these speakers be a good match for my Emotiva amps?

All advice, thoughts, recommendations, ect are welcome.

Thanks for reading. -Dave

Ah yes, the beauty of Aperion...order both the 6T and the Verus Grand and A/B in your own environment. However, only the cherry finish is available right now in the Verus line. The black is due to ship Dec. 1.

I did read one review, I forget which one, that stated the 6T lost a bit of composure at high volumes. They went on to say that backing off the volume a bit took care of the issue. I have not experienced that with my 6T, but I'm driving them with a Pioneer Elite SC-05 with no additional amps. Blue
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post #4585 of 6571
11/6/10 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by Blueste View Post

Ah yes, the beauty of Aperion...order both the 6T and the Verus Grand and A/B in your own environment. However, only the cherry finish is available right now in the Verus line. The black is due to ship Dec. 1.

I did read one review, I forget which one, that stated the 6T lost a bit of composure at high volumes. They went on to say that backing off the volume a bit took care of the issue. I have not experienced that with my 6T, but I'm driving them with a Pioneer Elite SC-05 with no additional amps. Blue

I don't think I've ever reached that level and is probably an uncomfortable level to listen to anyways. When I play the 6Ts they seem like the are hardly breaking a sweat. Plus all speakers will have their limit anyways.
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post #4586 of 6571
11/6/10 at 10:25am
Right. Depends on amp power, room size, etc.
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post #4587 of 6571
11/6/10 at 1:47pm
Does any one have the VGBs yet? Wondering if someone could post pictures?
Is there any mounting plates on them? like on the back or bottom?

I was just wondering if you could mount them from the ceiling or wall.
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post #4588 of 6571
11/6/10 at 8:39pm
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Originally Posted by painted_klown View Post

Awesome! How would you say the bass on the 6T compares to the VGT bass? Does the 6T play noticeably deeper?

I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me with this, having a listen to the B&Ws will reveal to you exactly what I am talking about when I am saying they sound very harsh at high volumes. This is my number one concern with any speaker I audition. I need the drivers to stay nice and mellow when being driven to their limits.

I am figuring with the 300w rms rating for the Aperions vs. the 150w rating on my B&Ws, coupled with the silk dome tweeter of the Aperions and Presto!...smooth top end.

For the mid-range, I REALLY fell in love with B&Ws FST midrange drivers and initially I wanted to get a set of CM-9s for the longest time. Then I had a son so l had to scale back a bit on my purchasing. Long story short, I ended up with the 684 towers and have really been itching to get into something more fitting for my listening habits ever since.

I am hoping the Aperions will fit the bill.

So I didnt get to hear much but I was with my wife at bestbuy picking up the toy story trilogy so we took a quick listen to the 683 and 684s...I have to say for a smaller tower they did sound pretty good. I only got to listen to an Elton john song. I thought the 683 sounded better then the 684s. The first thing my wife said was "yours sound a lot better and look wayyyyy better" If my wife can tell the difference then it says alot. To me it would be a interesting comparison. I think I would need to bring a pair home :-) Let me see if I can do some more listening. There was some true bass out of those speakers too.....again let me see if I can spend some more time.
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post #4589 of 6571
11/7/10 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by IZETECI View Post

Yes I do agree the 5Ts are a good speaker. I think I'm just letting the upgrade bug get to me. Plus I like things to match. I still need to buy two more monoblock amps for my set up.

I think you going from the 5T to the VGT is going to be a nice upgrade.

I fully understand the upgrade syndrome. I think the only hope for those of us who have it, is to burn our computers, our cell phones with internet access and move to someplace so emote that we can't see what is available.

Since I didn't do any of the above, my VGT's and VGC will arrive shortly after 12/1. In addition a new Standout Designs N702 plus to hold the new center channel and all of the new goodies that are tempting me so
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11/7/10 at 10:54am
Can't wait to see pics. I like the Standout Design stands.
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