AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › *** The Official APERION Thread ***
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

*** The Official APERION Thread *** - Page 17

post #481 of 6535
1/13/08 at 10:09am
Quote:
Originally Posted by kb71 View Post

Hello,
After reading numerous reviews and posts, I have decided to go with the Aperions for my dedicated HT. I have a 16X20 room. On one side, where the surround speakers need to go, the wall is a half wall. I could mount a speaker where the ceiling (8ft ceiling) meets the wall, as there is 12 inches of "wall" before it opens up. I was thinking of going with the 534-SS. Would this speaker work mounted this high up and maybe aimed toward the seating area? Can I mount from the ceiling? I'm assuming if I put that side near the ceiling, I should mount the other side the same.

Then I was going to use the satellite 422s hanging from the ceiling as the rears. (7.1).

Fronts and center are 633-T, 634VAC, and s-10 sub

How does this sound?..no pun intended :-)

I hace the 422's mounted on the ceiling with adjustable mounts. They seem to work fine.
Reply
Reply

AVS Top Picks

post #482 of 6535
1/13/08 at 10:27am
My 532-LR surrounds are ceiling mounted. I think they work great. I'm no audiophile though. I angled them in and down a bit.
Reply
Reply
post #483 of 6535
1/13/08 at 12:16pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by kb71 View Post

Hello,
After reading numerous reviews and posts, I have decided to go with the Aperions for my dedicated HT. I have a 16X20 room. On one side, where the surround speakers need to go, the wall is a half wall. I could mount a speaker where the ceiling (8ft ceiling) meets the wall, as there is 12 inches of "wall" before it opens up. I was thinking of going with the 534-SS. Would this speaker work mounted this high up and maybe aimed toward the seating area? Can I mount from the ceiling? I'm assuming if I put that side near the ceiling, I should mount the other side the same.

Then I was going to use the satellite 422s hanging from the ceiling as the rears. (7.1).

Fronts and center are 633-T, 634VAC, and s-10 sub

How does this sound?..no pun intended :-)

I have a similar room size and I had the chance to try out the 533T, 533Vac, 633T, 634Vac S-10 Sub. I would recommend that you go with the 533T and the 634Vac. Some people worry that the 634 Vac is too large for the 533T which is not the case based on my own experience. I also spoke with Aperion and they confirmed that you can mix and match thier speakers and should not hear any significant quality/sound differential (timbre matched). Also, if you decide to get the 633T you may want to get a larger sub. The 633T's produce good base and a 10 inch sub may not be able hold up.

What ever you choose Aperion will work woth you to find the right speakers.....good luck
Reply
Reply
post #484 of 6535
1/13/08 at 1:55pm
I finally completed my 5.1 Aperion setup and it kicks ass. Had been doing 3.1 quite happily with 2 533 towers, an S8 and a 532 as a center. Added two more 532 surrounds yesterday after picking up a PS3. Thought my son's eyes were going to bug out today when we fired up his birthday present -- "Cars" on Blu-ray -- and the opening race scene kicked in at 75dB.
Reply
Reply
post #485 of 6535
1/13/08 at 2:54pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by TopGun916 View Post

I received the new 532 Cinnma set on Friday night and stayed up until 4AM running speaker wire and sub cable under the carped. I finally got it hooked up to my 805 however have not yet ran the audessey set up. I am not blown away but the sound as I expected to be (moving up from hk 130 and polk rm250s) however with all due fairness I hve not yeat really cranked this thing up or listened to any great 5.1 source. ( I am sure this will change as I tune the system and get some decent source material and will report back! )

The purpose of my post is to ask fellow owners about their settings on the sub (S10). I placed the sub on Auto and the light stays red even witht he receiver turned on sending signal from the pre-out jack indicated in the manual. If I turn it to "on" it fires up, but should I not be able to leave it on Auto and have the receiver fire it up when needed? Also, my speaker is near the corner, before I run the audessey later this morning, what should I turn the 3 knobs to?

I finally had a chance to hear a mutichannel source from the PS3 and I cranked it up and it sounded waaay better than my previous setup. I ran Audessey on the 805 and it got even better... still tinkering but much happier!!!
Reply
Reply
post #486 of 6535
1/13/08 at 2:56pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by kb71 View Post

Hello,
After reading numerous reviews and posts, I have decided to go with the Aperions for my dedicated HT. I have a 16X20 room. On one side, where the surround speakers need to go, the wall is a half wall. I could mount a speaker where the ceiling (8ft ceiling) meets the wall, as there is 12 inches of "wall" before it opens up. I was thinking of going with the 534-SS. Would this speaker work mounted this high up and maybe aimed toward the seating area? Can I mount from the ceiling? I'm assuming if I put that side near the ceiling, I should mount the other side the same.

Then I was going to use the satellite 422s hanging from the ceiling as the rears. (7.1).

Fronts and center are 633-T, 634VAC, and s-10 sub

How does this sound?..no pun intended :-)

The up front answer is to order both the 532 LR and 534SS for your side surrounds. Get a pair of 6' ladders, put the speakers on them, find out where you like them in the room and which set of speakers you like the best. Send back the ones you don't need and get an omnimount 20.0 ceiling mount and you're good to go.

Yes, I would mount the left one the same height as the right.

The reason I say this is I have my sides ceiling mounted and I've never really been happy with them (534SS). Not due to speaker quality (I love my Aperions) but rather, room placement. They're not up against a wall, just free hanging (from the ceiling) in the room about 5' on one side, 2' on the other. It might be location, it might be speaker type. That's why I give you my recommendation for getting both speakers and experimenting with location and speaker type.

Let us know what you end up with.

Thanks,
Mike
Reply
Reply
post #487 of 6535
1/14/08 at 8:02pm
i got no love in my own "I need speakers" thread so i hitting the source up directly.

my space is a dedicated HT with the main viewing being DVDs and HDTV. its 21 x 12 with 7'4" ceilings. i already have ordered an eD A3-300 sub.

i am down to Axiom and Aperion for my choices. mainly do to price and solid online reputation.

what are you thoughts on this setup?

fronts = 633-T
center = 634-VAC ( i would need a stand or wall mount)
surronds = 534-SS
price = $1738

much thanks.
Reply
Reply
post #488 of 6535
1/14/08 at 10:23pm
Given that I basically have this setup (plus 2 532s for 7.1) I must say that you're right on the money

I LOVE my speakers. I've heard a friend's Axioms and they're nice but I like my Aperions better. Besides, with free shipping both ways, you've got nothing to lose.

The only thing I'll add is that I'd go with a stand for the center -- that thing is a BEAST (in a good way ). Remember the 50-100 hour breakin period before you do any critical listening tests. You're gonna love these

Mike
Reply
Reply
post #489 of 6535
1/15/08 at 5:26am
Quote:
Originally Posted by accts4mjs View Post

Given that I basically have this setup (plus 2 532s for 7.1) I must say that you're right on the money

I LOVE my speakers. I've heard a friend's Axioms and they're nice but I like my Aperions better. Besides, with free shipping both ways, you've got nothing to lose.

The only thing I'll add is that I'd go with a stand for the center -- that thing is a BEAST (in a good way ). Remember the 50-100 hour breakin period before you do any critical listening tests. You're gonna love these

Mike

did you go with their stand or pick one up from some place else? since it is such a beast i am guessing it can not be wall mounted? thanks.
Reply
Reply
post #490 of 6535
1/15/08 at 5:37am
I believe you can wall mount it, but they don't sell a mount for it. You'd have to find another omnimount dealer and make sure that it supports 40lbs or more (I think you'd need their 60.0 model or something). I was worried about it drooping and also they don't have screw holes in them so I'd have to do that myself (yikes!).

I currently have them on cinder blocks covered with a black garbage back (LOL!) but plan to build a stand that will fit my Art Deco room ...

Mike
Reply
Reply
post #491 of 6535
1/15/08 at 7:21am
Quote:
Originally Posted by aham23 View Post

did you go with their stand or pick one up from some place else? since it is such a beast i am guessing it can not be wall mounted? thanks.

I have this same setup also and second the feedback. It is a stellar performer for the price. I would recommend you do not wall mount the center channel. Aside from being a beast to hang from the wall it will sound much better if you can move it out into the room in line with the front of the 633T mains. You have a fairly deep room so you should be able to do this. I used the Wood Technology metal center channel stand for mine and it works great. Here is a link to the stand: http://www.buy.com/prod/wood-technol...204242708.html

Play around with the positioning to achieve the best imaging from the system. I also do not think you would be disappointed with this system.

JD
Reply
Reply
post #492 of 6535
1/15/08 at 7:45am
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdskycaster View Post

I have this same setup also and second the feedback. It is a stellar performer for the price. I would recommend you do not wall mount the center channel. Aside from being a beast to hang from the wall it will sound much better if you can move it out into the room in line with the front of the 633T mains. You have a fairly deep room so you should be able to do this. I used the Wood Technology metal center channel stand for mine and it works great. Here is a link to the stand: http://www.buy.com/prod/wood-technol...204242708.html

Play around with the positioning to achieve the best imaging from the system. I also do not think you would be disappointed with this system.

JD

Hey JD,

That's a pretty nice looking stand. Are you pleased with the build quality? Do you tilt your center up at all? How do you do that?

Thanks,
Mike
Reply
Reply
post #493 of 6535
1/15/08 at 7:50am
a 40 lb. center channel. yikes, totally going with the stand if i choose the Aperion route over the Axioms.

later.
Reply
Reply
post #494 of 6535
1/15/08 at 8:21am
Not that difficult to mount on a wall. Get the brackets that Aperion sells. Then a piece of 1X6 that will span about 4 studs, overlaping the studs by about 3" on each side, thats about 54" piece of wood for studs that are 16" on center. Also some moulding that will cover the entire perimeter of the 1X6. Sand and paint the 1X6, apply the moulding and paint again. Mount the 1X6 with attached moulding on the wall with 2 1/2" screws for metal studs, or 3" screws for wood studs. Being sure to engage all four studs with two screws at each stud. Paint the screw heads. Mount the Aperion brackets, done, it will hold.

You will need a miter box to cut the moulding and some brads to nail the moulding to the 1X6. Some work involved, but I did it and it works.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f.../AngleView.jpg
Reply
Reply
post #495 of 6535
1/15/08 at 8:42am
Quote:
Originally Posted by aham23 View Post

did you go with their stand or pick one up from some place else? since it is such a beast i am guessing it can not be wall mounted? thanks.

I'm waiting for my surrounds to ship next week (the dipole/bipole ones), I have the 533's L/R but decided for the big 634 center (and S10 sub). The center is a HEAVY and I am using Aperions stand (tried both the 12" and 16"). Went w/the 16" since the 12" blocked some components. It's an 'ok' stand - not sure if it was worth the $80 but i rolled it into the 12 months no-interest plan. I have no option to wall mount mine since my 73" mitsy is not 'wall mountable'.
Reply
Reply
post #496 of 6535
1/15/08 at 10:02am
Quote:
Originally Posted by accts4mjs View Post

Hey JD,

That's a pretty nice looking stand. Are you pleased with the build quality? Do you tilt your center up at all? How do you do that?

Thanks,
Mike

Yes. I am very happy with the build quality. The stand already has a built in tilt of 5 degrees. Works very well for me. As you can see it is made by Wood-Tech. Aperion sells the wood version.

JD
Reply
Reply
post #497 of 6535
1/15/08 at 10:20am
Pulled the trigger -- thanks for the link!

Mike
Reply
Reply
post #498 of 6535
1/16/08 at 9:52am
I tried to wall mount the 634 center speaker (using peerless PM-600 wall mount), but I found the location of wood studs in the wall doesn't match the holes in PM-600. Currently, I put my TV (Samsung 4665, about 67 pound) direclty on top of the center. I talked with Aperion rep and they confirm the speaker can support such weight. Does anybody here do the same way? I am still a little concerned about the weight over a long run.

Thanks, Lool
Reply
Reply
post #499 of 6535
1/16/08 at 10:16am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopstretch View Post

I finally completed my 5.1 Aperion setup and it kicks ass. Had been doing 3.1 quite happily with 2 533 towers, an S8 and a 532 as a center. Added two more 532 surrounds yesterday after picking up a PS3. Thought my son's eyes were going to bug out today when we fired up his birthday present -- "Cars" on Blu-ray -- and the opening race scene kicked in at 75dB.

That's good to hear. I juts ordered almost the same speakers except for the 533 VAC for the center. What are you running them with? For now, I am going with an Onkyo TX-SR705, who knows later though. I can't wait for it all to arrive!
Reply
Reply
post #500 of 6535
1/16/08 at 10:28am
Quote:
Originally Posted by lmark84l View Post

That's good to hear. I juts ordered almost the same speakers except for the 533 VAC for the center. What are you running them with? For now, I am going with an Onkyo TX-SR705, who knows later though. I can't wait for it all to arrive!

I also have the 705. Does the job without any problems.
Reply
Reply
post #501 of 6535
1/16/08 at 10:31am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopstretch View Post

I also have the 705. Does the job without any problems.

Awesome! Looks like I am in for some good times when all this stuff arrives.
Reply
Reply
post #502 of 6535
1/16/08 at 10:36am
Quote:
Originally Posted by aham23 View Post

a 40 lb. center channel. yikes, totally going with the stand if i choose the Aperion route over the Axioms.

Nothing wrong with the Axiom floorstanders, but unless all your seats are within your screen width, their center design may not work well for you.

This review talks in depth about what Aperion has done to try and overcome the usual toppled center channel issues.
Reply
Reply
post #503 of 6535
1/16/08 at 8:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by lool View Post

I tried to wall mount the 634 center speaker (using peerless PM-600 wall mount), but I found the location of wood studs in the wall doesn't match the holes in PM-600. Currently, I put my TV (Samsung 4665, about 67 pound) direclty on top of the center. I talked with Aperion rep and they confirm the speaker can support such weight. Does anybody here do the same way? I am still a little concerned about the weight over a long run.

Thanks, Lool

Can anyone please share your experience?
Reply
Reply
post #504 of 6535
1/17/08 at 6:51am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeb53 View Post

Not that difficult to mount on a wall. Get the brackets that Aperion sells. Then a piece of 1X6 that will span about 4 studs, overlaping the studs by about 3" on each side, thats about 54" piece of wood for studs that are 16" on center. Also some moulding that will cover the entire perimeter of the 1X6. Sand and paint the 1X6, apply the moulding and paint again. Mount the 1X6 with attached moulding on the wall with 2 1/2" screws for metal studs, or 3" screws for wood studs. Being sure to engage all four studs with two screws at each stud. Paint the screw heads. Mount the Aperion brackets, done, it will hold.

You will need a miter box to cut the moulding and some brads to nail the moulding to the 1X6. Some work involved, but I did it and it works.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f.../AngleView.jpg

this way should work with almost any bracket
Reply
Reply
post #505 of 6535
1/17/08 at 3:41pm
Just got my first set of real speakers today. I had a cheap 5.1 HTIB from Panasonic and then the bug bit me back in August, so I had to buy a plasma TV, then an Onkyo 605 AVR, and just recently I was able to start upgrading the speakers. I bought an SVS PB10-NSD and hooked it up about 2 weeks ago and noticed a huge lose in frequency even with everything set at 80Hz.

On Sunday I decided to order 2 532-LR and a 533-VAC in black. Today the speakers arrived at around 3:30pm, so I started setting them up (12 gauge wire + banana plugs) at about 4:00pm. By 6:00 the receiver finished it's auto configuration, so I jumped into the settings and checked all the crossovers. The left, right, and sub were set to 80Hz, the center at 60Hz, and unfortunately my surrounds are still the crappy HTIB ones, so I just dropped them from 150Hz to 120Hz. It's now only 6:31pm and my jaw can't seem to close and they haven't even scratched the surface of breaking in. I spent almost 6 months reading these forums and just spectating, taking in what I could and each time I kept getting drawn to Aperion. Just want to thank you all for all the information I was able to take in and now I can't wait to order 2 more 532-LR for my surrounds and then a pair of 533-T to use later on when I can create a more dedicated theater.
Reply
Reply
post #506 of 6535
1/17/08 at 5:19pm
Nice post Pake. Congratulations!

I'm looking at a simiar setup. What made you go with the PB10 vs other subs or even the Aperion sub? Does the PB10 blend into your speakers smoothly?

I'm wrestling with a sub decision for an Aperion setup.

Thanks
Reply
Reply
post #507 of 6535
1/17/08 at 6:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by caeguy View Post

Nice post Pake. Congratulations!

I'm looking at a simiar setup. What made you go with the PB10 vs other subs or even the Aperion sub? Does the PB10 blend into your speakers smoothly?

I'm wrestling with a sub decision for an Aperion setup.

Thanks

Since the sizes aren't that far off and I figure you shouldn't be seeing the sub anyways other than to show it off to people, so I looked at the price vs performance ratio. The PB10 was $40 cheaper after shipping and at the time they were offering the SPL meter for free with it and for performance, I felt strongly about wanting it to reach 20Hz. It took quite a while to come to the decision, mainly because I didn't want a huge sub at first, so I wrestled with the idea of getting a SB12. In the end, I figured I'd rather not have a ton of bass and when the time came, I'd like to get another PB10 to even it out across the room.

As for blending, so far it's been flawless. Originally I was worried, b/c the junk speakers I was using seemed to force the sub into playing deep voices, but the Aperion's lightened up the sub's load and now it's a seamless transition to my ears.
Reply
Reply
post #508 of 6535
1/17/08 at 6:08pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pake View Post

Just got my first set of real speakers today. I had a cheap 5.1 HTIB from Panasonic and then the bug bit me back in August, so I had to buy a plasma TV, then an Onkyo 605 AVR, and just recently I was able to start upgrading the speakers. I bought an SVS PB10-NSD and hooked it up about 2 weeks ago and noticed a huge lose in frequency even with everything set at 80Hz.

On Sunday I decided to order 2 532-LR and a 533-VAC in black. Today the speakers arrived at around 3:30pm, so I started setting them up (12 gauge wire + banana plugs) at about 4:00pm. By 6:00 the receiver finished it's auto configuration, so I jumped into the settings and checked all the crossovers. The left, right, and sub were set to 80Hz, the center at 60Hz, and unfortunately my surrounds are still the crappy HTIB ones, so I just dropped them from 150Hz to 120Hz. It's now only 6:31pm and my jaw can't seem to close and they haven't even scratched the surface of breaking in. I spent almost 6 months reading these forums and just spectating, taking in what I could and each time I kept getting drawn to Aperion. Just want to thank you all for all the information I was able to take in and now I can't wait to order 2 more 532-LR for my surrounds and then a pair of 533-T to use later on when I can create a more dedicated theater.

I am glad you are impressed with the speakers. You have made excellent choices in your setup and should be good to go for many years. The 533T's would be a logical upgrade if you have the cash on hand. Otherwise resist the urge to upgrade down the road as you have a very solid system that can play with those that cost several times what you have invested. Spending more at this point may only provide incremental improvements.

The SVS PB10-NSD is a killer sub for the money. You have really done your homework and put together a great system, now just enjoy

JD
Reply
Reply
post #509 of 6535
1/17/08 at 8:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by aham23 View Post

i got no love in my own "I need speakers" thread so i hitting the source up directly.

my space is a dedicated HT with the main viewing being DVDs and HDTV. its 21 x 12 with 7'4" ceilings. i already have ordered an eD A3-300 sub.

i am down to Axiom and Aperion for my choices. mainly do to price and solid online reputation.

what are you thoughts on this setup?

fronts = 633-T
center = 634-VAC ( i would need a stand or wall mount)
surronds = 534-SS
price = $1738

much thanks.

crap, i only had one 633-T in my basket so the price i listed was wrong. duh! so another $500 smacks puts me over my budget. hey, we gotta draw the line some where.

what about the 533-Ts and 534-VAC with the same surronds. still a great option for home theater use in my 2000 cubic feet (22'x12'x7'4") of room? how much do i lose by dropping down the center?

much thanks.
Reply
Reply
post #510 of 6535
1/18/08 at 5:46am
The 533VAC is an excellent center channel. I had one in my system for 6 months waiting for the 634VAC to start shipping. The 533VAC center paired with the 533T Towers should provide an excellent solution for your room.

Don't take my word for it though. Get your room finished, order the speakers and audition them for 30 days. Make sure you break them in before doing any critical listening. Let us know what you think.

JD
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Speakers

AVS Top Picks

AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › *** The Official APERION Thread ***