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post #6001 of 6527
6/17/12 at 4:40pm
Looking for a cherry 6C. Pm me if you'd like to sell one please.
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post #6002 of 6527
6/17/12 at 7:26pm
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Just like the sound itself, aesthetic preferences vary... whether it's the color, finish (gloss or satin), shape of the speaker, ect. There's no one preferred look, but certain looks are going to be more popular than others... and like you said, I'm sure Aperion took a hard look at which those may be... but I think it also has to do with what is readily available where their products are being produced. When you look at the multitude of cherry veneer speakers coming from China, the majority are the orange colored "medium cherry." Add on that Aperion was already set up for production of cherry and gloss black on previous products, and it makes sense why they didn't change things with the Verus line.
And you're right - adding custom finish options isn't a minor task for a company that isn't set up for that, which is why I say it may be cost prohibitive, not just for the consumer. Heck, look at the added cost of custom veneers through someone like Salk Sound, and that is a big part of Salk's business model.
As I said - I'd love to see custom, or other standard, finish options with the Verus line... but it doesn't make sense for Aperion to go that route if the upcharge is so much that the products won't sell.

maybe so that this market isn't worth it for Aperion but their direct competition offer more finish options like PSB, Paradigm, Salk and others. I don't see it really costing that much more if they offered 1 or 2 other colour options in their flagship line, their competition offer their customers this, Aperion can't even keep their speakers in stock so they seem to have a fast turn over and more finish option in their flagship line will let them reach into other markets. Black and a red/cherry wood are kinda boring now and after seeing nice white speakers or walnut it looks so much more fresher, nicer and different as everyone has a red/cherry wood or black speaker.
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post #6003 of 6527
6/18/12 at 7:02am
Hey hicks,

When is the next monthly special on a versus grand package?
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post #6004 of 6527
6/18/12 at 6:33pm
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Thanks all.
Moving the TV might be better for the audio aspect, but it wouldn't work as well for viewing.
So if I did opt for a 7.1 system......
2 Intimus 4T Towers
1 Intimus 5C Center
2 Intimus 5B Bookshelf (side surround)
1 Bravus IIa 8D Sub
should the rear surrounds be Intimus 4B Satellite Speaker or 2 more 5B Bookshelf.
Thanks.

In a room like that the 4Bs should be plenty for your rear channels.

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new aperion owner. Love the forte towers we have, hate the too red cherry and the black. Both finishes are very well done, Just not particularly fond of either. Rather than a custom finish, what about an unfinished?? That way you guys dont have so much tied up in them and dont have to hit so hard with the restocking fee (or maybe not at all). I'm a woodworker, but I imagine everyone knows how to find a lowes..... wink.gif

Ha, yeah facilitating and supporting DIY finishing projects for people with various levels of skill/ineptitude sounds like "fun".

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While I understand why Aperion went with gloss cherry and gloss black for the Verus line... I'm not particularly a fan of those finishes either. "Medium cherry" is just way too orange... and gloss black is just too hard to keep clean.
So the custom finish idea sounds great.... but I'm guessing it's going to be cost prohibitive for most.
I wish more companies would go with a natural cherry finish when they opt for cherry... like Quad did in the two previous generations of L series speakers (the current generation of course uses a more orange looking cherry). Here's an example I found at Audiogon:
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Thanks for the feedback, I'll add natural into the hopper next time it comes up.

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maybe so that this market isn't worth it for Aperion but their direct competition offer more finish options like PSB, Paradigm, Salk and others. I don't see it really costing that much more if they offered 1 or 2 other colour options in their flagship line, their competition offer their customers this, Aperion can't even keep their speakers in stock so they seem to have a fast turn over and more finish option in their flagship line will let them reach into other markets. Black and a red/cherry wood are kinda boring now and after seeing nice white speakers or walnut it looks so much more fresher, nicer and different as everyone has a red/cherry wood or black speaker.

What's Salk's return policy on custom finishes? Here it is:
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On lower priced models with a standard finish, we offer a 30-day in-home trial period. You can feel free to return the speakers within 30 days, in new condition, for a refund in the event they do not perform to your satisfaction.With “custom” finishes and/or more expensive speakers, this is not practical. If we only offered three or four standard finishes, it would not be a problem. But normally customers who order our higher-priced speakers want them finished to their personal taste. So if they were returned, we would have to wait until another customer wanted the exact same finish before we could recoup our costs. Unfortunately, this would not work for us.However, in a case like this, we would work to find a new home for the speakers and process a refund once the speakers were re-sold. Our speakers normally sell quite quickly on the used market, so it would probably not take all that long.

So basically they don't guarantee anything since it's all contingent on their re-sale, which "probably" would not take that long and they don't even say whether it will be a full refund or not.

I hate to say it, but you are making the case for not offering them by not understanding the costs that are involved in offering custom finishes. Even just more standard finish choices results in having to carry higher levels of inventory, which will increase costs along the entirety of the supply chain.
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Originally Posted by CougarCruiser View Post

Hey hicks,
When is the next monthly special on a versus grand package?

Probably when we stop selling shipments out in advance at the regular price! biggrin.gif

Seriously though, I don't know what we have planned for the future so stay tuned, thanks!
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post #6005 of 6527
6/18/12 at 9:15pm
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In a room like that the 4Bs should be plenty for your rear channels.
Ha, yeah facilitating and supporting DIY finishing projects for people with various levels of skill/ineptitude sounds like "fun".
Thanks for the feedback, I'll add natural into the hopper next time it comes up.
What's Salk's return policy on custom finishes? Here it is:
So basically they don't guarantee anything since it's all contingent on their re-sale, which "probably" would not take that long and they don't even say whether it will be a full refund or not.
I hate to say it, but you are making the case for not offering them by not understanding the costs that are involved in offering custom finishes. Even just more standard finish choices results in having to carry higher levels of inventory, which will increase costs along the entirety of the supply chain.
Probably when we stop selling shipments out in advance at the regular price! biggrin.gif
Seriously though, I don't know what we have planned for the future so stay tuned, thanks!

doesn't matter that much to me if you do or do not as it doesn't affect me and I'm not tied into Aperion in anyway, there's a lot of great options for paying customers and we need a way for thinning the competition out, just making a suggestion and no I wouldn't pay any company $2000 or half the price just to hear their product. In the end I think I'm better offer with PSB or Paradigm as I can hear it before buying and they offer different finishing options to their customers and this suits me. Aperions seem to review great and seem to make a nice speaker for the price but when were talking $4000 for speakers there's a lot of solid options, and if finish is a way for me to thin the herd then so be it as there is too many great options and one needs a way to thin it out. Reading up on Aperions in reviews got my attention but now I believe I'm better off going a different route.
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post #6006 of 6527
6/19/12 at 2:58am
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doesn't matter that much to me if you do or do not as it doesn't affect me and I'm not tied into Aperion in anyway, there's a lot of great options for paying customers and we need a way for thinning the competition out, just making a suggestion and no I wouldn't pay any company $2000 or half the price just to hear their product. In the end I think I'm better offer with PSB or Paradigm as I can hear it before buying and they offer different finishing options to their customers and this suits me. Aperions seem to review great and seem to make a nice speaker for the price but when were talking $4000 for speakers there's a lot of solid options, and if finish is a way for me to thin the herd then so be it as there is too many great options and one needs a way to thin it out. Reading up on Aperions in reviews got my attention but now I believe I'm better off going a different route.


you said it yourself. they can't even keep them in stock. so knowing that, why would they add cost to it? because YOU want it in a different color? the look of a speaker can be a personal preferrence and obviously there are other speakers that you like the look of better but think you'll like the sound of the aperions. Thats understandable and something that everyone deals with.

Those other options you mention make fine speakers as well. You have a tough choice to make but I don't think it's fair to try and make Aperion out to be the bad guy just because they don't make their speakers in the color you want.

Actually, in this economy, companies are looking to cut costs wherever they can so you are seeing less and less color options. Look at the sub market. It's turning into nothing but " any color you want as long as its black" options.

Good luck in your search
Edited by brian6751 - 6/19/12 at 4:05am
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post #6007 of 6527
6/19/12 at 4:30am
haha, fair enough, I hate it when customers want to do some of the work themselves as well. Because it usually really means that I will still be guiding the process just with little control over the outcome (and therefore their satisfaction). Thanks anyway.
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post #6008 of 6527
6/19/12 at 8:18am
Hi Guys,

Just wanted to chime in and mention that I ordered a pair of VGT and a VGC from Aperion yesterday. I know they are on back order until this monthend. I am quite anxious about these speakers, hope I am satisfied.

I recently owned the EMP E55Ti's and sold them to my neighbour who loves them to death, I did not find them to my taste. Hopefully this will change with the Aperions, we will see.
Edited by Fowl - 6/19/12 at 9:22am
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post #6009 of 6527
6/19/12 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by Ryder125 View Post

doesn't matter that much to me if you do or do not as it doesn't affect me and I'm not tied into Aperion in anyway, there's a lot of great options for paying customers and we need a way for thinning the competition out, just making a suggestion and no I wouldn't pay any company $2000 or half the price just to hear their product. In the end I think I'm better offer with PSB or Paradigm as I can hear it before buying and they offer different finishing options to their customers and this suits me. Aperions seem to review great and seem to make a nice speaker for the price but when were talking $4000 for speakers there's a lot of solid options, and if finish is a way for me to thin the herd then so be it as there is too many great options and one needs a way to thin it out. Reading up on Aperions in reviews got my attention but now I believe I'm better off going a different route.

Best of luck with your search!

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Originally Posted by Fowl View Post

Hi Guys,
Just wanted to chime in and mention that I ordered a pair of VGT and a VGC from Aperion yesterday. I know they are on back order until this monthend. I am quite anxious about these speakers, hope I am satisfied.
I recently owned teh EMP E55Ti's and sold them to my neighbour who oves them to death, I did not find them to my taste. Hopefully this will change with the Aperions, we will see.

Excellent, thanks for the order and sorry about the wait but I think it will be worth it!
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post #6010 of 6527
6/19/12 at 9:50am
Thanks Jason, just for reference this is Leighton. I know that its been a while, in fact over six months since I first enquired about the Verus Grand, but now, finally things are happening. biggrin.gif
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post #6011 of 6527
6/19/12 at 8:22pm
Anyone interested in buying 6T/5C/4BP in Piano Black Finish? NYC Area!
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post #6012 of 6527
6/19/12 at 8:31pm
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Anyone interested in buying 6T/5C/4BP in Piano Black Finish? NYC Area!

I have the same setup in cherry. Makes for a great music and movie system.
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post #6013 of 6527
6/19/12 at 9:13pm
Indeed. The reason I went with the larger towers was music. Boy did they shine. Im just fortunate enough to be able to move into a much higher price range compared to my budget 2 years ago.
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post #6014 of 6527
6/21/12 at 8:56am
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Anyone interested in buying 6T/5C/4BP in Piano Black Finish? NYC Area!

Are you going to get the VGT or do you have them already and selling the 6T/5C/4BP
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post #6015 of 6527
6/21/12 at 1:22pm
I intended on giving the VGT's a listen but they were back ordered. Ive read good things about them though. Regardless, I will keep Aperion high on my list of companies to recommend to friends and family.
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post #6016 of 6527
6/26/12 at 12:19pm
Well I am a happy biggrin.gif camper today, my VGT and VGC was shipped. I got my fedex tracking number a couple hours ago. Cant Wait.
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post #6017 of 6527
6/26/12 at 12:26pm
Congratulations! Post some pictures and your thoughts once you get them set up.
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post #6018 of 6527
6/26/12 at 12:35pm
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Congratulations! Post some pictures and your thoughts once you get them set up.


Will do. I live in the Caribbean, so it will be about 3 weeks before I see or hear them though, but will undeed post my thoughts.
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post #6019 of 6527
6/28/12 at 9:35am
Hey everyone, check out this great review at Secrets of Home Theater of the Verus Forte Tower HD system including graphs!

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/surround-sound-speaker-systems/surround-sound-speaker-systems-reviews/aperion-forte-home-theater-system.html
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post #6020 of 6527
6/28/12 at 10:42am
Congrats on another positive review.
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post #6021 of 6527
6/28/12 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by brian6751 View Post

you said it yourself. they can't even keep them in stock. so knowing that, why would they add cost to it? because YOU want it in a different color? the look of a speaker can be a personal preferrence and obviously there are other speakers that you like the look of better but think you'll like the sound of the aperions. Thats understandable and something that everyone deals with.
Those other options you mention make fine speakers as well. You have a tough choice to make but I don't think it's fair to try and make Aperion out to be the bad guy just because they don't make their speakers in the color you want.
Actually, in this economy, companies are looking to cut costs wherever they can so you are seeing less and less color options. Look at the sub market. It's turning into nothing but " any color you want as long as its black" options.
Good luck in your search

I never made Aperion out to be the bad guy?... I said if they do go that route that a 50% restocking fee would be a killer due to the fact that the only way to listen to their speaker is to buy it direct so the buyer is taking on too much risk. If one is spending $4000 for speakers they should be picky about everything the sound and the looks and finish, not many people spend that kinda cash on speakers. There's a lot of tough competition out there that offer more finishing options well offering comparable sound for the same price, why should a buyer take the risk of losing 50% or $2000 when it would be a safer option to just go to your local audio store and hear them in stock. I never made Aperion out to be the bad guy and even said they seem to make great speakers that review favourably and I even said if they came in white they would be in my living room, I just disagreed with their return option they MIGHT do with 50% restocking fee, $2000 out of pocket to listen to their speaker is mighty risky.
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post #6022 of 6527
6/29/12 at 6:40am
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Well I am a happy biggrin.gif camper today, my VGT and VGC was shipped. I got my fedex tracking number a couple hours ago. Cant Wait.

I got tracking number too for the VGT, IIa 12D sub and dipole surrounds.. It's scheduled to arrive right before July 4th.. hope it makes it in time! I got the VGC already last week and it sounds amazing. Can't imagine how it will sound with the 2 huge VGTs!

My setup so far with only the VGC.

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Edited by revlisoft - 6/29/12 at 6:55am
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post #6023 of 6527
6/30/12 at 8:55am
Thanks for the Pics. I see you have very similar GIK 244's like mine. Send me some pic when you get the VGT
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post #6024 of 6527
7/3/12 at 6:14pm
Ever closer now. Speakers were delivered to my contact in Miami today. Just about 10 days to go, very excited:D
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post #6025 of 6527
7/5/12 at 8:20pm
Just want to drop by after owning a set of VGT for a few month. The set really grow on me over time. Solid, precise bass when watching movie. The thing that really bring a smile on me is listening to trumpet. It sounds so clean & so real. They are absolutely gorgeous.
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post #6026 of 6527
7/5/12 at 9:01pm
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I got tracking number too for the VGT, IIa 12D sub and dipole surrounds.. It's scheduled to arrive right before July 4th.. hope it makes it in time! I got the VGC already last week and it sounds amazing. Can't imagine how it will sound with the 2 huge VGTs!
My setup so far with only the VGC.
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Any news on your VGT, got them yet?
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post #6027 of 6527
7/7/12 at 5:19am
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Any news on your VGT, got them yet?


revlisoft: You may be having such a good time with your VGT, that you cannot respond biggrin.gif
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post #6028 of 6527
7/9/12 at 12:42pm
For Sale 6T, 5C, 4BP in Piano Black (NYC) - Pm if interested!
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post #6029 of 6527
7/15/12 at 2:17pm
What has happened to this thread, six days and no post, are we all wrapped up in listening to our speakers ? Well I guess that is a good thing:p Just want to keep this thead alive. Anyone get their Aperion and wish to comment?
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post #6030 of 6527
7/15/12 at 2:41pm
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What has happened to this thread, six days and no post, are we all wrapped up in listening to our speakers ? Well I guess that is a good thing:p Just want to keep this thread alive. Anyone get their Aperion and wish to comment?
Our Itimus 5T towers and 6C center channel speakers are everything we wanted in our small living room. They look good (piano black) and they sound good for the money according to me and our calibrator (UMR).

Maybe if you rearrange your speakers that will stimulate a long and fruitful conversation. wink.gif

I don't think that AVS pays much attention to inactive threads until a month goes by.

Enjoy.
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