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After reading all the positive reviews of Aperion speakers I have elected to pull the trigger on the entire Verus Grand package (gloss black);

Hopefully my speakers arrive this weekend as the wife is going to visit friends and I have the house to myself.

My new speakers + my new 92" Mitsubishi + start of NFL season - wife = Happy Hubby

Jason
Has Aperion done away with their Close-Out and Open Box offerings? The web page is no longer loading and I can't find it at your home page.

Go to "Products" then "Speakers by Type" and it's on the far right.
http://www.aperionaudio.com/speakers-by-type/open-box

So...when are we getting true Verus Grand dipole surrounds?

I noticed the new Aperion website has deleted my prior orders: any plans on having 'older' customers orders appear again?

I am not very thrilled with the changes to the forum....

There is no point in bringing that up here.

Yeah, you're right. Just to clarify though...it was not the changes to this forum.

So gents I got my Verus Grand Tower speakers in the mail two weeks ago. I just thought I would throw in my 2 cents, since I've been lurking on these forums for the last 2 months trying to figure out which speakers to buy.

I was debating wether to buy the ascend sierra towers, phil harmonics, salk song towers, but I was lucky enough to get two verus grand towers open boxed VGTs from Aperion and thought why the hell not, I am basically saving like $600 by buying these babies vs normal sierra towers+tax. Both VGTs came in spotless condition, however one of them rattles at a very specific frequency and volume. Not exactly sure what the cause is, but before I jump and complain wagon or send them back, i'm going to do some troubleshooting to make sure the grill is on tightly or that my carpet isn't screwing it up. On to the important stuff.

These speakers are powered by my Denon 3312CI. I would say I am 70% music and 30% television. I would consider myself a decent audiophile, and really like the sound of my Beyer Dynamic DT770 head phones. I have been essentially trying to replicate that headphone sound but with tower speakers.

These are really beautiful speakers and I would describe the VGTs as warm and def. not bright. These are very non-fatiguing speakers and I can listen to music for hours on this speakers.. in fact I have already. I was originally going to buy B&W CM8's bought thought I could find a better deal on the net and I can say the bass extension is waaayyy better on the VGTs although the high's and mids aren't as clear in my opinion. I really like the bass and the lows on the VGT's so much so that I feel like i don't even need a subwoofer although i bought a HSU vtf2 mk1 used for $100. I was not blown away by the clarity or detail in when listening to classical or jazz tracks on the VGTs. However, when I put on Trance and hip hop, these bad boys really shine and def. put a smile on my face.

I had the VGTs for home audition and this hits my impressions dead on. I enjoyed listening to music for hours on end, never fatiguing. With the VGC it was great for watching HDTV. Detail was good but not the final word but also more forgiving of recording quality. Very good bass extension for the driver size, great finish. HT was very good but being more laid back did limit them a bit in that application.

Aperion customer service is amazing. Worth checking out IMO and talk to their Sales folks as they know their products and were straight shooters.

I've been lurking in this thread for a couple days now and I couldn't find an answer so I will ask the question. I've been looking to upgrade my current speakers and I'm almost sure I want my next set to be Aperions. The speakers will go into a room 16'x15' in size. Is the Verus Grand overkill for the room of that size? Would the Forte set be the better fit? Thanks.

Talk to Aperion, they can best answer that. As long as you have the ability to keep them off the wall and away from side walls I would think they would work fine. They can tell you how far for each boundary but your room size seems good.

Hey guys, sorry I've been neglecting this forum as of late but we've been busy at Aperion HQ and I was on vacation for a bit as well.

If I missed your question and you still need an answer please feel free to repost it thanks!


If you can give them two feet behind them, one foot to each side and can sit at least 6-7 feet from the speakers then I don't think the Verus Grands are overkill.

I would say in a room like that the advantages that the VGT offers over the Forte, specifically fuller midrange, broader soundstage and more bass extension, will be most noticeable when listening to music.

I hope that helps!

Thanks for the review and if you are still experiencing that rattle please give us a call and we will be happy to help you out, thanks!

Hicks,

Will you speak to some of the questions regarding whether Aperion will flesh out the rest of the Verus Grand line (dipole surrounds and a sub)?

Thanks for the reply! Now to convince the wife that we need the upgrade but I've been promising her a new purse for awhile now so that will have to come first unfortunately.

I have been looking for pictures of the Cherry finish in the Intimus line other than what's on the website. For those of you that have them is it more red or brown?

Had a question about Aperion speakers. I'm planning my dedicated build as we speak which is 13x19x8 give or take a couple inches. I'm planning on getting a Denon 2112 receiver if it matters.

Trying to keep to a semi budget what is the benefit of either the Versus Grand bookshelf compared to the 4T towers since they are about the same price?
Similarly what's the difference between the 5T and Versus Forte bookshelf speakers since they are about the same price as well considering them for satellites?

Thanks

Anyone??? or should I look at B&W speakers?

Will Aperion ever offer subwoofers with a real cherry-wood veneer to compliment its Verus speakers with cherry enclosures?

You seem to be a man in a hurry. Call Aperion if you don't get a reply in this owner's thread.

Hicks is the Aperion person who contributes to this thread. You can see his last post further up this page. His last post was two weeks ago.

Jason Hicks
aperionaudio.com

Hey guys sorry I've fallen behind again but the good news is we just hired a new guru this week which will free me up to post more regularly here, thanks for everyone's patience!

Hello there,

The Verus Surrounds are designed to work with both the Forte and Grand lines. If we were to do a six inch driver surround it would be pretty big and the cost would probably be around the $900 mark per pair or so, which probably wouldn't make it very popular. The Verus Subwoofer is an idea that we have kicked around quite a bit. I myself have advocated for it as you aren't the first to ask about it, but it's kind of gotten stalled in development. I will suggest that we try and get it moving, but I can't make any promises. For now I do think the Bravus 1D makes a great match for the Verus Grand systems. If we were to make a Verus sub what features would you like to see? Thanks!


The Verus Grand Bookshelf vs. the 4T is a bit of a quality vs. quantity match up in my opinion. With the VGB you'll get the radiator tweeter which offers lower distortion rates, especially at higher volumes and plays a bit smoother than the Intimus tweeter. The Kevlar driver in the Verus series is also stronger than fiberglass in the Intimus so it has a faster response and tighter sound. Having said that, since the 4T is a much larger speaker with an extra driver, it will give you deeper bass, a fuller midrange and the ability to fill a larger room. The last point is the one I would hone in on, if you have a small room say around 15X15 then I would be thinking about the VGB, if the room is large 20X20 or better than I would be thinking about the 4T.

I think you probably mean the 5B and not the 5T for your second question, but all of the same general differences between the Intimus and Verus lines that went through above would still apply. The 5B is also larger than the Verus Forte Satellite and uses a 5.25" driver instead of the 4" used by the Verus Forte Satellite. So it will give you more bass and a fuller sound through the midrange too. But honestly for movies/TV in the surround position that won't be a big difference unless the speaker is far away from your sitting position, say over 10 feet.

I hope that helps!

We used to make cherry subs but they never sold as well as the black finish and a lot of folks just tuck them away near corners where you don't see them anyway, so at least for now we are going to stick with just the black finish subs.

The Verus speakers do have the black baffle which matches the subs, so I don't think it's all that much of a mismatch myself.

Thanks for the info Hicks. With the versus bookshelf speakers being rear ported what is the minimum they can be mounted from a wall?

I'm looking for quality over volume as I don't listen to movies or music cranked up. I'm assuming the versus line will be better suited to my listening needs?

Would (2) Verus Grand Tower speakers be a good replacement for (2) Intimus 6T Towers and a Bravus 12D subwoofer?

If so, what is the approximate re-sale value for (2) 2009 Intimus 6T Tower speakers w/original packaging?

Are the cherry wood veneers for the Verus speakers a close match to the older series Intimus speakers?

If your room isn't huge then yes I think the Verus Grand Bookshelves would be the way to go. If you can put them on a stand that would be ideal placement. But they can be placed on a wall mount 2-3 inches from the wall with good results. If they do end up sounding muddy you can plug the ports. Of course that will cut their bass response, so if you end up doing that then you'll probably want a sub.


Hello there,

The bass response between the two speakers is about the same, so you'll probably still want to use a sub with the VGTs if you are using one now.

I would try to get around $800 to $900 for the 6Ts, it depends where you post them as to how much you'll be able to get. Posting them here or on audiogon will likely get you the most money, but it isn't free.

Here's a picture of a 5T circa 2008 and a Verus Grand Tower:



I hope that helps!

OK, guys and gals, curiosity is getting the best part of me, LOL:) I just checked out Aperion's page on Facebook, and among other things, they listed some news regarding the Verus line of speakers to be released at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest Show next weekend. Can ANYONE let the cat out of the bag on this one, since we are so close to the show, or will we have to wait another week to find out? Are there any changes slated for the Verus Grand line of speakers? I would like to order a complete 5-speaker system with the Verus Grand Towers, Grand Center, and surrounds, but if any changes/updates/improvements are coming out soon with new updated versions, I would rather wait. If any changes are planned, the question is how long will the wait be, and what will be the changes? I know that the current Verus Grand line has been out since late 2010 with no changes/updates? HELP, LOL. It is 3:40 A.M as I am typing this out...

Hello there,

I can't let the cat out of the bag quite yet, but I'll give you a gigantic hint and say that the topic in question was discussed in this very thread a couple of months ago.

Other than that it will be just a few days until the official announcement so stay tuned!

Gloss black speakers are coming back!!

Thanks. Will you be posting the updates to this thread this coming Friday?

Well in the Verus line gloss never left, but you may be on to something there. . .

Absolutely, stay tuned!