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I need pics bro.

Hi everyone. i recently purchased a pair of 5Bs, a pair of 4Bs, a 5C, and a Bravus 2 8D sub. I was looking for setup, reviews, or other info on the sub. Does anyone have experiences with this one? Any helpful hints, etc? How does the 8A compare with the new 8D? It seems like the remote, lcd, etc are now gone, but the price is still kinda high. Wondering if I overbought, room is about 16x10. Thanks in advance!

Well my VGC continues to impress.... starting to feel like an Aperion fanboy:)

What strikes me is how low you can keep the volume and still get clear articulate dialogue.... pretty impressive!
But when the action gets loud, very loud, is when the VGC really shines.
Most center speakers I've had in the past reach a certain loudness level and make you reach for the remote to turn them down,
they lose their composure sounding harsh and shrill.
So far I haven't had to reach for the remote with the VGC...
it just gets louder, never losing it's composure.
Great dialogue, great dynamics, great musical speaker,
great looking speaker, great company support behind it....
Can't wait for the Towers to arrive in a couple of weeks.
Looks like I've found my new favorite speakers!!!!

And update. I unplugged everything and left it off for awhile. Then plugged everything in and did a factory reset and now the sub woofer is connecting, but its only staying connected for a few seconds at a time. Again moving it around the room has no effect. I have a feeling something is wrong with the subwoofer. Has this happened to anyone else?

Have you called customer service? Sounds like you need a replacement.

Has anyone compared the Intimus line to the Forte Line? I would like to keep all the speakers in the same line, and the main factor will be based on the dimensions for the center channel. The Intimus 5C is roughly the same size as the Verus Forte Center. Which sounds best based on your experiences? The Verus Grand Center just wont fit in my application.

Depending on where you are, I may be close to you. I'm in S. Jersey (a philly burb) , and I'm happy to let you hear my system if it would help you decide if Aperions are for you.

My front soundstage is made up of VGTs/VGC/VGB (as front presence) all powered by a Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature (405 WPC).
Sides and rears are ERD-1s powered by my receiver (Yamaha RX-A3000)
Sub is an SVS PC13 Ultra.

Let me know.

Not I (not beyond the specs published). This sounds like a great question to discuss in a call with Aperion. Usually people who are doing comparisons like this call the company directly and talk it over.

One reviewer seems to think that, overall, the Fortes are a nice upgrade over some/most of the Intimus line.

Awesome, glad to hear you guys are enjoying and a big thanks to DreamCatcher for taking the time to post all the write ups!


Hello there,

Sure I would put the Verus speakers up against the Motions any day of the week, our ASR tweeter can play lower than the folded tweeter that they use which means that the midrange really opens up since the woofer doesn't have to strain to hit higher frequencies. Also the Kevlar driver that we use gives a bit more accurate response than the aluminum woofer that they use. Finally, the overall build quality with our speakers is better in my opinion, which cuts down on any unwanted vibrations or resonance.

But you don't have to take my word for it, since we have the 30 day trial and we even cover return shipping there really is no risk for you to check them out. Give them a shot and if they don't best the Motions send them back for a full refund.


Sorry to hear about the trouble with the subwoofer, I would recommend unplugging all of the speakers and then plugging just the towers and subwoofer back in and it will help if the subwoofer is to the side or slightly in front of the towers when you do this. Then plug the transmitter box back in and do a factory reset. You should bring up a 2.1 map, but if you don't or the subwoofer is still dropping off the map please give me a call and we will go from there. If you do get the 2.1 map up and it stays up for more than a few minutes then add the center back in and do a refresh map. That should bring you to a 3.1 map. If that stays up then add the surrounds back in and do another refresh map, which should give you a 5.1 configuration. If you run into problems at any point of that process just give me a call and I'll be happy to assist, thanks!

The 8A never had a remote or LCD screen but the 8D did until 2011 when we simplified the design and upped the amplifier power. The 8D is also a passive radiator design while the 8A is ported, so the 8D tends to have a more tighter/more musical quality since there isn't all that air rushing out of the port. Either sub could probably fill that room if it is closed, but I do think the sound quality of the 8D is nice to have over the 8A even in a small room.

Just let me know if you have any other questions, thanks!

The main differences between the Verus and Forte lines are the tweeters which is a bit smoother/more natural in the Verus series. The Verus speakers also use Kevlar drivers which are stronger than the fiberglass that the Intimus speakers use, so that gives them a more accurate and detailed sound, but the fiberglass that the Intimus series uses is still a high quality and strong driver material. However I think the differences between the two lines are most apparent for music so since the center is primarily used for home theater I think the 5C gets you pretty close to the Verus Forte Center. If you think you would like a speaker with a little warmer treble though, the Forte Center can help out in that regard.

I hope that helps!

Thanks Hicks. Musical sub is what I was looking for! Sounds like I made the right choice.

Thanks Hicks. Will see what the wife says in the looks department. I really want nice clear highs (not fatiguing like some Klipsch) so the Intimus might be the way I am heading if I understood you correctly. Got confused by your last 2 sentences.

I'm just about to pull the trigger on a pair of VG Towers and a VG Center, but was just wondering if I can get any sort of package discount for this purchase before I hit the BUY button...?

Just chatted with Hicks and he answered all my questions. He is awesome!
Edited by border411 - 2/5/13 at 8:47am

Excellent, I think you'll be really happy with the 8D!

Alan,

I can't give you any discount on the speakers themselves, but we are running a promo this month where we are giving you three eight foot lengths of premium cable which is a $120 value. Just add the three lengths of cable to your cart here along with the speakers and the $120 will automatically be deducted.

http://www.aperionaudio.com/things-you-need/cables-and-wires/straightwire-musicable-premium-cable-8-feet

Thanks for the order!

Glad to help and thank you!

border, now do you understand why I tell everyone to just call them. Jason was great when I bought my bookshelves last year, but so were the two or three others that helped me with initial VGT & VGC order. Great crew working there, they know what customer service is about. By the way Jason a long delayed review of speakers and service should be coming soon.

Aw shucks, you are too kind.

Thanks in advance for the review!

Finally pulled the trigger on the VGC and two VGBs. They will be replacing a DT ProCenter 2000 and a pair of ProMonitor 1000s. I have to get the wife to buy off before the VGTs take their rightful place on my front soundstage and move the VGBs to surrounds. I will post pics when they arrive. I may just camp out and wait for the FedEx guy to come.

My pleasure..... thank you for the great speakers at a ridiculous low price considering their high end sound, outstanding build quality, and awesome looks
(and I've only experienced the VGC so far.... think you could push my towers up a week... haha)

Awesome, thanks for the order and please do let us know what you think of them!

Great news, VGTs in cherry will be shipping today or tomorrow, thanks for your patience and enjoy!

NO WAY... Super cool ! !

Yeah, mine are on getting way.

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Hey Hicks, will there be a bipole speaker in the Verus line? thanks.

As soon as we have a confirmed production run underway I will put them back up. As it is now I still don't have a solid date as to when they will ship, so I don't want to put something up only to let people down when I need to push the date back. I am hoping we get things sorted out and back on track soon, as there is definitely a good amount of pent up demand for this product. Thanks for hanging in there, I appreciate it!

Oops that last part was a quote from hicks in response. Cut and paste not my strong suit on this smartphone. Check a couple pages back (207 on my phone) for a few more posts about bipole/dipoles.

Ha, the dangers of posting at 2 AM!

In any event, we are pretty much still in the same holding pattern, I will let you all know when I get an update.

Also, if you have been waiting to pull the trigger on Verus Grand Towers in cherry I have a couple pairs up for grabs right now, thanks!

Does the in home trial valid on b-stock items? Free shipping both ways?

A stock yes, B stock you have to cover return shipping if you want to send it back, but outbound shipping is still covered.

Well Verus Grand Towers arrived today!
As expected from the VGCenter, the Towers are an extremely well made and beautiful speaker.
The cherry finish is gorgeous... These do not look like speakers costing less than $2k,
they could easily pass for twice that or more....
Pending auditioning outcome....they are exactly what I've been looking for.
Haven't had a chance to listen much today, damn job,
the little I did get to listen was a bit of a mixed bag,
imaging was a bit off.
With a slight toe in the center image just wasn't locked in.
Increasing toe in didn't help, center image was still a bit vague,
like it was coming from somewhere between the speakers just not sure where.
So vague that I had to double check that I'd hooked up the speakers correctly, polarity wise.
Then it dawned on me that I hadn't rerun Audyssey.... duh
so no more critical listening until that task is performed sometime tomorrow.
Anyway b e a utiful speaker..........

to be continued....

Dreamcatcher,

Can you run the GTs without Audessey engaged bypassing the internal processing as well?

Hello Everybody!.

I am new here and I am not sure if this thread is the right place to ask my question. If not, than I apologize.
I am preparing the room in basement. 13'x21'.
Have my mind set on Aperions (for now ). I want to get the best sound possible. So is there a disadvantage if I get Verus Grand system for such small room? Or should i get Verus Forte system?
I don't listen very loud. Music/movies ratio would be about 40/60.
Opinions?
Thank you.