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Thanks Hicks, I purchased the speakers around December. I am not ready (financially) to upgrade yet but hope to by the years end. I believe my sub is out performing my 4C and 4T's so would like to upgrade to the Verus line. Thanks for the quick reply!

Add me to the Aperion family

I just order 2VGT, 1VGC and 4VGB.
All in glorious Piano Black finish to kind of matching my 2 PB13 Ultra.

Now I just need to configure the best set-up for Audyssey!?
Maybe 60Hz for Tower and Center and 80Hz for the Bookshelfs,
or 60 tower and 80 for the center and bookshelf.

Hope I made the right choice, but it seem a lot of people like Aperion as a product for sound quality and quality.
Just like my SVS Ultra.

It was a close call for me between the Verus Grant and the new SVS Ultra line, both have good reviews but I did prefer the look and footprint of the Verus Grand.

Ray

Obviously goof with the settings but you hit the nail on the head for what I use...

60 towers and 80 surrounds and center.

Thanks

Logic tell me to always go with on setting above the Max depth of the speakers and let the Sub or Subs do their duties and release the stress of trying to go to low (especially if you have good quality Subs).

Thanks for the reply and I always welcome all member opinion.

What about you Hicks?

Ray

Well today I finally caved after a few years of longing to buy the VGT's. They are ordered and will be on the way. They are replacing some old Energy C-500's and I fully expect they are going to be many orders of magnitude better than my current speakers. It is a very happy day.

They most definitely will be. I had the C-500's for awhile and while they can be decent for how cheap they used to be (picked mine up for $275/pr), they have some serious issues. Too much midbass, no midrange, etc. Zaph covered this well. I'm sure you'll love the Aperion VGT's. I'd love to have a pair

Thanks for the order Ray!

My recommendation is to start with everything crossed over at 80, but if you want to get more bass out of the center and towers you can try 60 Hz too. You shouldn't need to go below 80 for the surrounds.

I hope that helps!


Welcome to the family and enjoy, thanks!

Hi, Hicks have a question about the crossover settings as well. I have the Grand Towers and Center plus a HSU VTF-3 MK4 sub, what do you think about having my L/C/R at 90hz and surrounds, Axiom QS8's, set at 100hz, so that the sub can handle all the deep end?

90 Hz is a little high for the Verus Grand Towers and Center in my opinion, but there isn't really a right or wrong here, if you think they sound better crossed over at 90 then go for it.

It looks like the QS8s go down to 95 Hz at -3 dB, so 100 Hz is what I would recommend as a crossover point.

Thanks for your input, just wasn't sure, so 80hz is the recommended?

I'm also a new member of the Aperion family. Just received my 2 VGTs and VGC. Piano gloss black is gorgeous! Going to be a simple 3.1 system, supported by a Rythmik LV12R sub. Powered by a marantz 5007.
With the brief tests last night, I can already tell I am going to love these speakers. The first "movie night" will be this weekend.

No surrounds for "movie night"?

The bookshelfs are beautiful too. I found a a cherry pair in audiogon 2 weeks ago for a great price. I switched the towers for the VGB for trying out, I was pleasantly surprise, they have some serious bass. Now I set them up as surround back. I'm loving this Aperions.

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Yes I recommend 80 Hz, at least as a starting point and then you can experiment from there.

Glad to hear you are enjoying them so far, thanks and welcome to the family!

They really are pretty incredible for a bookshelf speaker in my admittedly biased opinion.

not yet, but i can tell you, the viewing experience is amazing so far. i have an issue with placement of the back left, being in an open room. so long term solution will have to wait.

Guys, how you remove the grills from the speakers without damages to the speakers or the grills.
I'd love to take some pictures of my set up with and without the grills.

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For the towers, I just use my fingernails to pry out the top or bottom of the grill. Once you start, they slip off pretty easily.

Actually, I just checked and my right VGT has a bigger gap between the grill and speaker baffle than the left. It is much easier to remove the grill on the right one. My center is pretty easy as well.

Simply pinch some material near the top edge and carefully pull...easy.

there's alot of options for ceiling hangers or just stands, man you really need to setup the surrounds even if they are just standard bookshelf, you are missing so much more of the "sound" of the movie without them.

I will, it just will have to wait until I can get the wires installed in the ceiling. I cant get to the ceiling space on the 1st floor easily. 2nd floor is no problem with the attic.

Definitely have to be careful. Mine popped out and tore the bottom of the grille fabric when it hit my tile. very frustrating having it happen 5 minutes out of the box.

I used a strong magnet. Positioned it at one of the corners and the grill came off with no problem.

That's another really good idea.

You think like I do:)


Any reason of why not going 60Hz for the towers since they supose to go down to 45Hz ( best sound match with the center?).


Love it!!!!

I do not care for grill, mines are going to be naked:rolleyes:.



Anyhow, the reason I came on line is to ask a few question about the side surronds.

Because of a side window, it will be as follow.
About 6 inches beyond and about 2ft and 2in above head.

Now would you tilt the VGB down a little or strait, and point directly at you strait the 6 in beyond you?

I always had Bi-pole or Di-poles.
This is my first time with direct surronds and I do not have the quality time to rerun Audyssey too many time.
It is to be a 7.2 system, VGT,GVC, VGB for side and VGB for rear, plus the 2 subs.

As always,
any help and experience from other member is always welcome.

Ray

A couple of pages ago, there was reference to bipole/dipoles being offered in the Verus line which Hicks confirmed. It might be worth it for you to wait until those would be available. I've stuck with my Polk Monitor 30s for rears until the bipoles are available. I may still stick with those, I haven't really decided.

Thanks

I did read that, but the 4 VGB are already on there way.

A new adventure, just like when I was in the service.
It is not a job, it's an adventure.

Ray

Ray,

Sorry for my delay in getting back to you. If you cross over your sub at 80 Hz and the VGTs at 60 Hz, technically you are creating a peak between 60 and 80 Hz because both speakers are producing those frequencies. If it sounds better to you to cross them over at 60 Hz then I say go for it, but if you want the flattest response between the VGTs and the subwoofer you should cross them over at the same frequency. You could crossover the sub at 60, but at that point you are kind of under utilizing it and another thing to consider is the frequency response from a sub will be stronger between 60 and 80 Hz than the VGTs. Finally crossing the VGTs over at 60 Hz can thin out the midrange since the speaker will have to dedicate power to hitting the lower frequencies.

As for the VGBs if they are over five feet off the ground I would angle them down.

I hope that helps!

Thanks Hicks for the reply

They are now in Edmonton.

So hopefully, tomorrow they will be deliver.
Set them up friday and run the Audyssey.

Cannot wait:D


Ray

Enjoy!

Thanks

Got them.

I will not be able to check them out for another 36hrs but should be going in another 8 Hrs later.
Unfortunaly Fed-Ex let me down again.
They would not deliver to my door untill next thuesday and my wife took the day off, so I can have them for my 50.
Anyhow she called a friend and went to pick them-up.
Nothing agains you guys, the box are all in good shape and look very well package.
Just, Fed-Ex in this part of the country sucks.

Anyway,
I will take your advice and maybe goof around like Newbie01 said.

New toys and a different sound.
Also going from Bi-pole to direct will be diferent.

Question about the surronds and the back surronds.
Should they aim strait at each other (side 6-8in beyond listening position) and strait toward the front (rear)?
Or aim to accomodate 2 persons (aim left to the right person and right to the left person) for both (side and rear)?

Thanks

Ray