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post #6451 of 6860
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Originally Posted by Skorste View Post

I used a strong magnet. Positioned it at one of the corners and the grill came off with no problem.

This trick work!!!
No problem at all.

I will agree with all the members that said the pictures does not do justice to the black satin finish.
Well above all my expectations!!!
Just beautiful and no flaws to be seen.
Also I do not find them imposing at all, just slim and tall.
The bookshelf have a nice weight for such a small speakers.

So far very happy and cannot wait to hear them.

Any taker for my question on the above post?


Ray
post #6452 of 6860
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Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Thanks

Got them.

I will not be able to check them out for another 36hrs but should be going in another 8 Hrs later.
Unfortunaly Fed-Ex let me down again.
They would not deliver to my door untill next thuesday and my wife took the day off, so I can have them for my 50.
Anyhow she called a friend and went to pick them-up.
Nothing agains you guys, the box are all in good shape and look very well package.
Just, Fed-Ex in this part of the country sucks.

Anyway,
I will take your advice and maybe goof around like Newbie01 said.

New toys and a different sound.smile.gif
Also going from Bi-pole to direct will be diferent.eek.gif

Question about the surronds and the back surronds.
Should they aim strait at each other (side 6-8in beyond listening position) and strait toward the front (rear)?
Or aim to accomodate 2 persons (aim left to the right person and right to the left person) for both (side and rear)?

Thanks

Ray

Hey Ray,

This one slipped past me, sorry again.

In any event I recommend aiming your side surrounds at your listening position, typically with both them angled toward the sweet spot. Then for the rears I would aim them straight on or angle them down if they will be above 4.5 feet off the ground or so.

I hope that helps!
post #6453 of 6860
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Originally Posted by Hicks View Post

Hey Ray,

This one slipped past me, sorry again.

In any event I recommend aiming your side surrounds at your listening position, typically with both them angled toward the sweet spot. Then for the rears I would aim them straight on or angle them down if they will be above 4.5 feet off the ground or so.

I hope that helps!

Hello Hicks

I end-up doing the opisite.
First a description the word "click" for my explanation.

The speaker mount Aperion sell have those little teeths to stop it from sliding.
Moving from one would be one click.

On my side I did tried one click foward but it was too much angle since they only sit 6 inches beyond me. So I went one click down and zero for left and right.

The back, I went one down and one click inward.
Ran the Audyssey, Change the value for all speaker from full to 80Hz.

Watch the Hobit and sounded very good with lots of small details.

Now I just have to clean all those finger prints from holding and moving them.
That Black Satin Finish is just outstanding.

Ray
post #6454 of 6860
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Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Hello Hicks

I end-up doing the opisite.
First a description the word "click" for my explanation.

The speaker mount Aperion sell have those little teeths to stop it from sliding.
Moving from one would be one click.

On my side I did tried one click foward but it was too much angle since they only sit 6 inches beyond me. So I went one click down and zero for left and right.

The back, I went one down and one click inward.
Ran the Audyssey, Change the value for all speaker from full to 80Hz.

Watch the Hobit and sounded very good with lots of small details.

Now I just have to clean all those finger prints from holding and moving them.
That Black Satin Finish is just outstanding.

Ray

Excellent, glad to hear you worked it out and everything is dialed in now.

We just got The Hobbit on Blu-Ray here at Aperion HQ and I can't wait to take it for a spin in the demo room!

Just let me know if I can help with anything else and enjoy!
post #6455 of 6860
Hey all! I'm currently looking to upgrade my audio system (finally got wife approval), and Aperions are at or near the top of my list. I'm looking to do a 2.1 or 3.1 system, but 3.1 is preferred because this will likely be 80-90% HT use. The room in question is approximately 25' wide by approximately 17 feet deep. The south wall is split in half by a hallway leading to the rest of the house, and my TV is in the middle of the Eastern half of that wall. The western half of the room consists of my kitchen and dining area, so while the overall room is 25x17, the actual home theater portion is ~12x17. The couch is 10-12 ft back from the TV. Here are the options I'm looking at, and I would love some advice from the Aperion crowd:

Intimus 5T towers with 5C and probably a Hsu VTF-3 Mk4 sub

Verus Grand Bookshelf for the L&R, VG Center, same sub as above

Verus Grand Towers and no Center, get VGC and a sub later when I can afford it (I could use my existing HTIB sub for a while)

KEF R100 L&R, KEF R200C Center, same sub as above

I also have to upgrade my receiver, but I'm going to keep it lower-end so I can focus as much money on speakers as possible. I'm probably looking Denon 2113 or 2313. I was considering Marantz 7005 just because right now it can be had for about the same price as the 6007, but I would like to avoid spending so much on the receiver. I can always upgrade that later.

I don't have an extremely firm budget, but I'd really like to keep the total package at or below $3,000 if possible.

What do you guys think?
post #6456 of 6860
I would suggest this option:

Verus Grand Bookshelf for the L&R, VG Center, same sub as above

you can always get the towers down the road and move the VGB to the rears....but I JUST auditioned the VGB's as mains and matched with a good sub (mine is the PSA xv15) you will NOT be disapointed!
post #6457 of 6860
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

I would suggest this option:

Verus Grand Bookshelf for the L&R, VG Center, same sub as above

you can always get the towers down the road and move the VGB to the rears....but I JUST auditioned the VGB's as mains and matched with a good sub (mine is the PSA xv15) you will NOT be disapointed!

I was thinking of this as well, and it's also the answer I got directly from Aperion. With the savings I would get from that set, I could even upgrade to the Hsu VTF-15 sub. It's my understanding that it would be a pretty good upgrade from the VTF3 Mk4. And since I don't have the ability to run two subs, I should probably go as big as I can afford there.

Will I miss out by not having the full towers? I know the center is more important than the L&R for HT use, but still those VGTs are gorgeous!
post #6458 of 6860
No you won't miss anything. The sub will take care of the lower frequencies.

I had towers before my current setup of psb bookshelfs and there is no audible difference
post #6459 of 6860
Thanks for the help, Brian. I haven't been able to upgrade any audio gear in a long time, and there's just so much out there. It's really hard to figure out which is the "right" decision. I was also thinking of doing the VGTs with the Hsu sub and getting the center channel later. I could afford that without getting in trouble. But since most of my usage is HT, I figured having that center is pretty important.
post #6460 of 6860
Yeah the center channel is a must. But be advised. The vgc is huuuuuuuuuuge
post #6461 of 6860
Duly noted. I should have plenty of space for it. Aperion's website lists it as 9" tall, but I understand there are rubber "feet" it sits on. Do you know if this is included in the 9" spec?
post #6462 of 6860
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Originally Posted by dave trimble View Post

Duly noted. I should have plenty of space for it. Aperion's website lists it as 9" tall, but I understand there are rubber "feet" it sits on. Do you know if this is included in the 9" spec?

Hey Dave,

Looks like you are good hands with Brian's recommendation, but I would just add that you will also hear a bump in the midrange and soundstage width if you go to a tower.

I think you'll be fine with the bookhshelves too, especially for primarily home theater, but bass extension is not the only benefit you get from a tower speaker.

As for the feet they are not included in the 9" spec, they will add an extra 1/4 of an inch.
post #6463 of 6860
Thanks, Hicks. I've got 9.5" of vertical clearance where my current center channel is, so it should just fit. If not, I'll just reconfigure my living room a little. I think I'll try to make the VGTs fit in my budget, but it probably won't happen.
post #6464 of 6860
Hello Guys/Gals

In the process of looking for my first 5.1 HT setup. I already have listened to B&W, Focal 826v,Maggie's 1.7, Ascend Tower, Phil 2's. The last two I actually demoed at board member homes. I sent a email to Aperion awhile back to recommend what speakers I should get based on my room size. Would anyone allow me to demo the VGT in 5.1 ?. I live in Northern NJ but willing to travel . Thank you for the consideration.

Stephen
post #6465 of 6860
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Originally Posted by skyisyellow View Post

Hello Guys/Gals

In the process of looking for my first 5.1 HT setup. I already have listened to B&W, Focal 826v,Maggie's 1.7, Ascend Tower, Phil 2's. The last two I actually demoed at board member homes. I sent a email to Aperion awhile back to recommend what speakers I should get based on my room size. Would anyone allow me to demo the VGT in 5.1 ?. I live in Northern NJ but willing to travel . Thank you for the consideration.

Stephen
I live in central jersey, give me a buzz. I have the towers, center and bookshelfs.

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post #6466 of 6860
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Originally Posted by centauro74 View Post

I live in central jersey, give me a buzz. I have the towers, center and bookshelfs.

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Nice, thanks for stepping in and helping out!
post #6467 of 6860
No problem Hicks, anything I can do to help with the brand. Plus it gives me a change to show off biggrin.gif:D.
post #6468 of 6860
Anybody with Verus Grands in Western Washington and wouldn't mind letting me hear them? I could always make a day trip down to Oregon to visit Aperion directly, but that would be harder to fit in my schedule.
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My Verus Grand Towers should be here tomorrow. I'm excited!
post #6472 of 6860
Enjoy the VGTs guys and let me know if I can do anything else to help out, thanks!
post #6473 of 6860
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Originally Posted by 9179mhb View Post


I took advantage of Aperion Audio's Custom Finish Program today and ordered:

1 Custom Finish- Original Intimus Cherry 12D 1299.00

The delivery is anticipated to be approximately 60 - 90 days. I believe I may be the first individual to exercise the custom finish option so it will be interesting to see how well the process works.

Thanks Jason for your help.

I received notice today from the folks at Aperion Audio that my custom cherry finish Bravus 12D subwoofer has arrived. Hopefully I will receive it sometime next week. I will post some pictures of the speaker when I receive it.
post #6474 of 6860
Thanks Hicks, they look and sound awesome and it gets better the more you play them!!
post #6475 of 6860
Just wanted to express my appreciation to the Aperion staff for great customer service. I recently received my 5.2 Vega Grand system. Less than a week after receiving it, one of the subwoofers stopped working. I called Aperion and worked with both Michael and Donovan to resolve the issue. After some troubleshooting, Donovan determined that the problem was most likely the amplifier within the sub. He arranged to have a replacement amp shipped right away. The new amplifier arrived a few days later and in less than 10 minutes I had the old one out and the new one in. The sub is now working perfectly. Thanks Aperion Audio for great support.
post #6476 of 6860
Id really like to to take a pair of these VGS towers for a drive .Beauty looking speaker.I have been using some Energy A3+2 FOR 10 +YRS,Served me really well sound still awesome,excellent imaging but lack a little oomph,Bought a pair a RC70 Here in Canada at future shop for a smoking price of $700 tax in...These speakers deffinately have the oomph ,but lack the audible imaging ,warm sounding little too much for my taste,hope they burn in a little more ,ive only got around 40 hrs on them now.BUT after reading about these beasts I am considering these.Would really like to know how they compare to these RC 70'S which really hold their own for the price.It looks like the VGS have the same woofer and mid materail as the 70'S.Nice speakers though.I only live in the interior of BC and see Aperion is in Portland so really not that far as the bird fly's or ships smile.gif
Edited by snowyo - 4/10/13 at 8:13pm
post #6477 of 6860
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Originally Posted by leemathre View Post

Just wanted to express my appreciation to the Aperion staff for great customer service. I recently received my 5.2 Vega Grand system. Less than a week after receiving it, one of the subwoofers stopped working. I called Aperion and worked with both Michael and Donovan to resolve the issue. After some troubleshooting, Donovan determined that the problem was most likely the amplifier within the sub. He arranged to have a replacement amp shipped right away. The new amplifier arrived a few days later and in less than 10 minutes I had the old one out and the new one in. The sub is now working perfectly. Thanks Aperion Audio for great support.

Glad we could get you back up and running quickly Lee, thanks for posting!

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Originally Posted by snowyo View Post

Id really like to to take a pair of these VGS towers for a drive .Beauty looking speaker.I have been using some Energy A3+2 FOR 10 +YRS,Served me really well sound still awesome,excellent imaging but lack a little oomph,Bought a pair a RC70 Here in Canada at future shop for a smoking price of $700 tax in...These speakers deffinately have the oomph ,but lack the audible imaging ,warm sounding little too much for my taste,hope they burn in a little more ,ive only got around 40 hrs on them now.BUT after reading about these beasts I am considering these.Would really like to know how they compare to these RC 70'S which really hold their own for the price.It looks like the VGS have the same woofer and mid materail as the 70'S.Nice speakers though.I only live in the interior of BC and see Aperion is in Portland so really not that far as the bird fly's or ships smile.gif

I think even our Intimus speakers can compete with the Energy RCs, so the Verus Grands should do very well in that matchup. The VGBs should give you more detail, a broader soundstage and the highs should be a bit more smooth/natural.

We would love to see you down here but if not I hope you try them out, thanks!
post #6478 of 6860
Hello All

First, congrats to all new aperion owner.
I know, that I do love mine.
The speakers are very well build and the finish is also outstanding. Customer service is also outstandind as are a VERY few other.

Now, I need help from this community.

I bought a pair of VGT, a VGC and 4 VGB with the wall mounts sold by aperion.

My problem is with the mount bracket.
Once install, they are very solid.
But I still get vibration from the wall when very low and deep bass from the subs excite the wall.
Total of 4 wall screws, 2 in the stud and 2 into drywall anckors (all tight very good but not torque to to the point of breakage a screw or reaping the drywall).

Any sugestion?


Ray
post #6479 of 6860
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Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Hello All

First, congrats to all new aperion owner.
I know, that I do love mine.
The speakers are very well build and the finish is also outstanding. Customer service is also outstandind as are a VERY few other.

Now, I need help from this community.

I bought a pair of VGT, a VGC and 4 VGB with the wall mounts sold by aperion.

My problem is with the mount bracket.
Once install, they are very solid.
But I still get vibration from the wall when very low and deep bass from the subs excite the wall.
Total of 4 wall screws, 2 in the stud and 2 into drywall anckors (all tight very good but not torque to to the point of breakage a screw or reaping the drywall).

Any sugestion?


Ray

Hello Ray,

Have you tried experimenting with other placements in the room? If the sub is near a corner that will definitely cause the walls to reverberate quite a bit more than if it is even just 1-2 feet from any walls.

Other than that, treating the room with bass traps in the corners will cut down on the resonance within the room too.
post #6480 of 6860
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Originally Posted by Hicks View Post

Hello Ray,

Have you tried experimenting with other placements in the room? If the sub is near a corner that will definitely cause the walls to reverberate quite a bit more than if it is even just 1-2 feet from any walls.

Other than that, treating the room with bass traps in the corners will cut down on the resonance within the room too.

Actually the 2 PB13 Ultra flank the center (one on each side).
And the surronds are on a wooden studs (2screws on the stud and 2 in the dry wall using drywall anchors).

I think, I will just built my own brackets with the help of a metal fusion technician (welder) and make something heavy duties and mount the surronds from under and have the wall bracket and the part holding the speakers cover with a thin sheet of rubber.


Ray
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