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post #6481 of 6860
You may want to explore an Anti-mode 8033 to apply some ARC below 160 Hz...works wonders to tame the low-level FR peakswhich may be part of your problem. The vibration is a symptom of something loose, uncal'd, or poor room acoustics/unruley bass.
post #6482 of 6860
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Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post

You may want to explore an Anti-mode 8033 to apply some ARC below 160 Hz...works wonders to tame the low-level FR peakswhich may be part of your problem. The vibration is a symptom of something loose, uncal'd, or poor room acoustics/unruley bass.

Thanks for the sugestion
I got it fixe. The 2x6 that I install between the the 2 studs was not completely agains the drywall.
A few door wedge and lots of wood glue took care of it.
It is all good now, but I still want to install something more heavy duty just to over engineering.

Ray
post #6483 of 6860
Guess I should finally get around to tossing my mini-review on these in here.

I spent a few months researching what speakers I wanted to buy, and I kept coming back to Aperion. In large part, it was because of this thread - the great impressions, active involvement of Hicks in here, and so on.

I've had a 2x VGT + VGC (And waiting on the Verus Surrouns to come back in stock!!!) for a few months now, and the sound is absolutely amazing. It completely blows away the NHT setup I had before, and as an added bonus the speakers are gorgeous. Listening to my music collection is an absolute joy on them, and movies sound great as well.

I'm actually running 2x VGB for my computer setup as well, and have to reiterate the above. Great sound, beautiful speakers, and miles and miles better than my old gear.
post #6484 of 6860
I guess I should too

First my equipment

Onkyo PRS886 audio/video processor (Audessey set all the aperion speakers at full range and I change them to 80Hz)
Outlaw 7700 power-amp
2 Outlaw 2200 power-amp for 2 butt-kickers (control by a Velodyne SMS for volume control)
Oppo BD103 blu-ray player
2 SVS PB13 Ultra for sub (set at 20Hz)
aperion VGT(x2), VGC and VGB (x4 for surronds)
JVC RS45/X30 projector
Carada BW 114" screen
Bluejeans balance cables
Good but basic room accoustic

As you can see, I became a firm believer of ID companys
They offer a superior product for the money and they do have to work hard at it since most people prefer a very well knowed brand.
And some of them make it to big magazine and this is how I found out about aperion.

First, I have been very happy with my 7 DIY speakers.
Never had the need or the want to change them.
Then after a new line of speaker wish I have no doubth that are very good got reviews and got compare to the aperion got me to do some readind on line.
Went to their site and start reading very good reviews from pro-review and compare them agains names worth a lots more money (2 to 5 time more).
I got very curious and decided, it was time for a change.

After lots of e-mail back and forward with aperion I knew their customer service is just as good as all the above mention ID companies.
So I did put my order ($5150 after taxes, duties and exchange).

Was it worth it?
YES, I think I got 10% better sound (It come to a point that sometime to get 2-5% is difficult without spending a lot more).
aperion did that for me.

Outstanding finish (mine are the black satin) and the sound is so clear and clean (my wife said that I am playing the movies louder, I guess loud is good as long as it it clean).
Lots of details (beware they do not forgive bad recordind as my previous DIY, if it's there, the speakers will play them. i.e. you will hear the microphone on some recording)
L & R were so easy to set-up, I put my 2 VGT at the same angle as my previous set-up and sounded perfect (either pure luck or they are very very forgiving due the phase plug design [real phase plug]).
L to R or R to L going through the center was perfect to my ears.
Details on the bookshelf as surronds was creepy (in a good way since I came from Bi-poles side surronds).

This review is more about back ground and history since I do not have the proper word to describe as how good they sound.
I did got rid of all shipping boxes within a week if as a point of how much I do Love them.

I just hope this help a few people, just like all previous members took the time the time to help fellow members and the ones just cruising the net.

Peoples like you, make does smaller company strive and us reap from the benifit of paying less for a superior product.


Ray

P.S. Sorry about, all bad ponctuation and spelling, since English is a second language.
Edited by darthray - 4/22/13 at 6:55pm
post #6485 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Thanks for the sugestion
I got it fixe. The 2x6 that I install between the the 2 studs was not completely agains the drywall.
A few door wedge and lots of wood glue took care of it.
It is all good now, but I still want to install something more heavy duty just to over engineering.

Ray

Glad to hear you worked it out!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthalupa View Post

Guess I should finally get around to tossing my mini-review on these in here.

I spent a few months researching what speakers I wanted to buy, and I kept coming back to Aperion. In large part, it was because of this thread - the great impressions, active involvement of Hicks in here, and so on.

I've had a 2x VGT + VGC (And waiting on the Verus Surrouns to come back in stock!!!) for a few months now, and the sound is absolutely amazing. It completely blows away the NHT setup I had before, and as an added bonus the speakers are gorgeous. Listening to my music collection is an absolute joy on them, and movies sound great as well.

I'm actually running 2x VGB for my computer setup as well, and have to reiterate the above. Great sound, beautiful speakers, and miles and miles better than my old gear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by darthray View Post

I guess I should too

First my equipment

Onkyo PRS886 audio pre-amp (Audessey set all the aperion speakers at full range and I change them to 80Hz)
Outlaw 7700 power-amp
2 Outlaw 2200 power-amp for 2 butt-kickers (control by a Velodyne SMS for volume control)
Oppo BD103 blu-ray player
2 SVS PB13 Ultra for sub (set at 20Hz)
aperion VGT(x2), VGC and VGB (x4 for surronds)
JVC RS45/X30 projector
Carada BW 114" screen
Bluejeans balance cables
Good but basic room accoustic

As you can see, I became a firm believer of ID companys
They offer a superior product for the money and they do have to work hard at it since most people prefer a very well knowed brand.
And some of them make it to big magazine and this is how I found out about aperion.

First, I have been verry happy with my 7 DIY speakers.
Never had the need or the want to change them.
Then after a new line of speaker wish I have no doubth that are very good got reviews and got compare to the aperion got me to do some readind on line.
Went to their site and start reading very good reviews from pro-review and compare them agains names worth a lots more money (2 to 5 time more).
I got very curious and decided, it was time for a change.

After lots of e-mail back and forward with aperion I knew their customer service is just as good as all the above mention ID companies.
So I did put my order ($5150 after taxes, duties and exchange).

Was it worth it?
YES, I think I got 10% better sound (It come to a point that sometime to get 2-5% is difficult without spending a lot more).
aperion did that for me.

Outstanding finish (mine are the black satin) and the sound is so clear and clean (my wife said that I am playing the movies louder, I guess loud is good as long as it it clean).
Lots of details (beware they do not forgive bad recordind as my previous DIY, if it's there, the speakers will play them. i.e. you will hear the microphone on some recording)
L & R were so easy to set-up, I put my 2 VGT at the same angle as my previous set-up and sounded perfect (either pure luck or they are very very forgiving due the phase plug design [real phase plug]).
L to R or R to L going through the center was perfect to my ears.
Details on the bookshelf as surronds was creepy (in a good way since I came from Bi-poles side surronds).

This review is more about back ground and history since I do not have the proper word to describe as how good they sound.
I did got rid of all shipping boxes within a week if as a point of how much I do Love them.

I just hope this help a few people, just like all previous members took the time the time to help fellow members and the ones just cruising the net.

Peoples like you, make does smaller company strive and us reap from the benifit of paying less for a superior product.


Ray

P.S. Sorry about, all bad ponctuation and spelling, since English is a second language.


Thanks for posting the reviews guys, great stuff!

If you want to head over to our site to post a review on our product pages I'll send you a free hat for your trouble!
post #6486 of 6860
OK, I bit the bullet and ordered two VGTs and a VGC this morning. I can't wait 'til they show up!
post #6487 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave trimble View Post

OK, I bit the bullet and ordered two VGTs and a VGC this morning. I can't wait 'til they show up!

Good for you

Let us know of your impression.
After listening 10 years to a certain sound from my previous DIY, they did sound diferent but better in my honest opinion.

Ray
Edited by darthray - 4/19/13 at 7:23pm
post #6488 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks View Post

Glad to hear you worked it out!

Thanks for posting the reviews guys, great stuff!

If you want to head over to our site to post a review on our product pages I'll send you a free hat for your trouble!

Hi Hicks

Can I just paste and post?
That little review took me over an hour to write.


Ray
post #6489 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Hi Hicks

Can I just paste and post?
That little review took me over an hour to write.


Ray

Hey Ray,

Looks like you worked it out, thanks and your hat is on the way! smile.gif
post #6490 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave trimble View Post

OK, I bit the bullet and ordered two VGTs and a VGC this morning. I can't wait 'til they show up!

Thanks for the order and please let me know if you have any questions when they show up, enjoy!
post #6491 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks View Post

Hey Ray,

Looks like you worked it out, thanks and your hat is on the way! smile.gif

Thanks

I was going to do it either way of your answer (and did before reading this).
Last night my wife and I listen to Django.
The small details were amazing.
One that got my attention was during a dinner scene, the fork srapping agains the teeth of Learnardo while someone else was speaking was very small but there.

Thanks for a great set of speakers, I know I will be happy for many years.
Also like I told your co-worker Mike.
aperion should add T-shirt to your product for sell.
Many people would wear them with pride.smile.gifbiggrin.gif

Ray

P.S. Feel free to correct my spelling on your site customer review since I cannot do it.
Edited by darthray - 4/22/13 at 6:52pm
post #6492 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Thanks

I was going to do it either way of your answer (and did before reading this).
Last night my wife and I listen to Django.
The small details were amazing.
One that got my attention was during a dinner scene, the fork srapping agains the teeth of Learnardo while someone else was speaking was very small but there.

Thanks for a great set of speakers, I know I will be happy for many years.
Also like I told your co-worker Mike.
aperion should add T-shirt to your product for sell.
Many people would wear them with pride.smile.gifbiggrin.gif

Ray

P.S. Feel free to correct my spelling on your site customer review since I cannot do it.

Nice, I haven't seen Django yet, really looking forward to it!

Yeah we used to have T-shirts, we really should start making them again because mine are starting to fall apart! smile.gif

Sure thing, I'll edit your review for spelling tomorrow, thanks again for writing it up and posting!
post #6493 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks View Post

Nice, I haven't seen Django yet, really looking forward to it! !

We watched Django Un chained last night and my wife said it sounded like the horse was right there next to her. In another scene, we could clearly hear and feel the baddies surrounding us. It was spectacular! Aperion and Marantz are a match made in heaven for movies and music. I am listening to a new cd now and am blown away, yet again!, by all of the clarity, warmth , and depth of these speakers. Truly awe inspiring!
post #6494 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by pagan97 View Post

We watched Django Un chained last night and my wife said it sounded like the horse was right there next to her. In another scene, we could clearly hear and feel the baddies surrounding us. It was spectacular! Aperion and Marantz are a match made in heaven for movies and music. I am listening to a new cd now and am blown away, yet again!, by all of the clarity, warmth , and depth of these speakers. Truly awe inspiring!

I give that review:



Thanks for posting!
post #6495 of 6860
Received my Verus Grands yesterday afternoon, and spent the better part of the evening setting them up and calibrating the system. I haven't gotten a lot of listening time yet, but I'm loving what I'm hearing so far. My previous setup was a 9 year old Onkyo HTIB which, at least as far as HTIBs go, was pretty good. But we're talking night and day between them and the Aperions. Especially on the high end, I'm getting a lot more clarity and detail that I simply never noticed before. I watched the opening car chase scene of "Quantum of Solace," and holy crap! I was literally gripping my armrests as the VGs every visceral detail of the flying bullets and screeching metal as car after car was destroyed.

My Blu-ray of "It Might Get Loud" is currently on loan, so I popped in "White Stripes: Under Great White Northern Lights" instead. I tell ya, if these speakers can keep up with Jack White on the guitar (and they can), there's nothing they can't do.

After that came the "Within Temptation: Black Symphony" Blu-ray, and was once again floored by this immense wall of sound coming from the VGs. And again, I kept hearing tons of new details and even whole instruments that I had not heard before. The band, the orchestra, the singer, and the crowd were all represented well with excellent definition so nothing was lost.

Suffice it to say, I will definitely be recommending Aperion Audio to anyone who will listen to me. Even if they might not be able to afford Verus Grands like mine, Aperion certainly has a diverse lineup that should be able to fit nearly any budget.

Oh, and my system:

Denon 3313CI
Aperion Verus Grand Towers and Center in a 3.1 config
Outlaw Audio LFM-1EX subwoofer
Panasonic BDT210 3D Blu-Ray Player
Sony PS3
Roku 3
LG 55LW5700 3D LED TV
post #6496 of 6860
Kudos, nice setup.
post #6497 of 6860
Just ordered Grand Towers in cherry to match my amazing cherry Grand Center. Too funny i've actually held off watching some of the latest blockbusters until they come in......cant wait.
post #6498 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by TITANS1 View Post

Just ordered Grand Towers in cherry to match my amazing cherry Grand Center. Too funny i've actually held off watching some of the latest blockbusters until they come in......cant wait.

Congrats
And I will bet you a nickel that your are going to say; Yes it was!

Ray
post #6499 of 6860
Hello,

I have become increasingly interested in the Aperion speakers based of what I have been reading here and other places. Most of the recent talk on this forum has been about the Verus Grand Towers but those are priced out of my budget.

Does anyone own the 5T set? I would like to hear some impressions on the 5T set. I am interested in purchasing the following:
5T Towers
5C Center
4BP Surrounds (Since I will have to put them on the back wall)
10D Sub Woofer.

My basement room where I will be placing these speakers is roughly 13' by 17' with one side open. I will have to put the surrounds on the back wall right by my seating area. I will mainly will be using these for games and movies. So probably 90% games and movies, 10% music.

I would really appreciate hearing your experiences with the 5Ts. Thank you.
post #6500 of 6860
Hi,
The Aperion VGT's are on my short list for new speakers mainly because of all the positive feedback from this thread. I'm really interested in auditioning these but I'm not sure what the 6 ohm rating really means? My receiver has a setting where I can choose either 4, 6 or 8 ohm speakers but I can't mix and match. Since all of my surrounds are 8 ohm, what would I set my receiver for? Can you have 6 ohm FCR and 8 ohm for all of the other surrounds?
Thanx
post #6501 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave trimble View Post

Received my Verus Grands yesterday afternoon, and spent the better part of the evening setting them up and calibrating the system. I haven't gotten a lot of listening time yet, but I'm loving what I'm hearing so far. My previous setup was a 9 year old Onkyo HTIB which, at least as far as HTIBs go, was pretty good. But we're talking night and day between them and the Aperions. Especially on the high end, I'm getting a lot more clarity and detail that I simply never noticed before. I watched the opening car chase scene of "Quantum of Solace," and holy crap! I was literally gripping my armrests as the VGs every visceral detail of the flying bullets and screeching metal as car after car was destroyed.

My Blu-ray of "It Might Get Loud" is currently on loan, so I popped in "White Stripes: Under Great White Northern Lights" instead. I tell ya, if these speakers can keep up with Jack White on the guitar (and they can), there's nothing they can't do.

After that came the "Within Temptation: Black Symphony" Blu-ray, and was once again floored by this immense wall of sound coming from the VGs. And again, I kept hearing tons of new details and even whole instruments that I had not heard before. The band, the orchestra, the singer, and the crowd were all represented well with excellent definition so nothing was lost.

Suffice it to say, I will definitely be recommending Aperion Audio to anyone who will listen to me. Even if they might not be able to afford Verus Grands like mine, Aperion certainly has a diverse lineup that should be able to fit nearly any budget.

Oh, and my system:

Denon 3313CI
Aperion Verus Grand Towers and Center in a 3.1 config
Outlaw Audio LFM-1EX subwoofer
Panasonic BDT210 3D Blu-Ray Player
Sony PS3
Roku 3
LG 55LW5700 3D LED TV

Excellent, thanks for posting it on our site too, hat is on the way!
Quote:
Originally Posted by TITANS1 View Post

Just ordered Grand Towers in cherry to match my amazing cherry Grand Center. Too funny i've actually held off watching some of the latest blockbusters until they come in......cant wait.

I think you will be quite pleased, thanks for the repeat business!
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubears51 View Post

Hello,

I have become increasingly interested in the Aperion speakers based of what I have been reading here and other places. Most of the recent talk on this forum has been about the Verus Grand Towers but those are priced out of my budget.

Does anyone own the 5T set? I would like to hear some impressions on the 5T set. I am interested in purchasing the following:
5T Towers
5C Center
4BP Surrounds (Since I will have to put them on the back wall)
10D Sub Woofer.

My basement room where I will be placing these speakers is roughly 13' by 17' with one side open. I will have to put the surrounds on the back wall right by my seating area. I will mainly will be using these for games and movies. So probably 90% games and movies, 10% music.

I would really appreciate hearing your experiences with the 5Ts. Thank you.

I'm biased of course, but I'm using a pair of 5Ts in my basement set up right now myself. For mostly home theater/games in a room of that size I think you will be pretty impressed with them. You would get a fuller midrange and more bass out of the Verus Grand Towers but honestly since you aren't doing much music and your room is not that big I think they would probably be overkill for you.

But hey, don't take my word for it, try them out for yourself and if they don't knock your socks off then you send them back to us, no hard feelings.

I hope that helps but please let me know if you have any other questions, thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by DougReim View Post

Hi,
The Aperion VGT's are on my short list for new speakers mainly because of all the positive feedback from this thread. I'm really interested in auditioning these but I'm not sure what the 6 ohm rating really means? My receiver has a setting where I can choose either 4, 6 or 8 ohm speakers but I can't mix and match. Since all of my surrounds are 8 ohm, what would I set my receiver for? Can you have 6 ohm FCR and 8 ohm for all of the other surrounds?
Thanx

You can absolutely run 6 and 8 ohm speakers together. Keep in mind that when we say that a speaker is "6 ohms" it's really just an average since the impedance of a speaker will vary depending upon what frequencies it is producing. So in reality there isn't a huge difference between speakers that are nominally rated at 6 and 8 ohms. It's when you get down to 4 ohms that you really need to make sure you have an amp or receiver that is capable of driving that load.

As for the setting you want to go with the 8 ohm setting, as long as your receiver has enough power to dish out to the speakers so you aren't in danger of it going into protection mode and shutting down. If you go with the lower settings, it will actually limit the amount of power to your speakers. So you want to go with the highest setting possible to get the most out of the receiver and speakers. If your receiver does start shutting down however, then you'll have to go with a lower setting. If you want to let me know what model receiver you have I'll be happy to let you know if I think it will be capable of driving our speakers with the 8 ohm setting, thanks!
post #6502 of 6860
Quote:
If you want to let me know what model receiver you have I'll be happy to let you know if I think it will be capable of driving our speakers with the 8 ohm setting, thanks!


Thanks........I have a Denon 4520CI.
post #6503 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubears51 View Post

Hello,

I have become increasingly interested in the Aperion speakers based of what I have been reading here and other places. Most of the recent talk on this forum has been about the Verus Grand Towers but those are priced out of my budget.

Does anyone own the 5T set? I would like to hear some impressions on the 5T set. I am interested in purchasing the following:
5T Towers
5C Center
4BP Surrounds (Since I will have to put them on the back wall)
10D Sub Woofer.

My basement room where I will be placing these speakers is roughly 13' by 17' with one side open. I will have to put the surrounds on the back wall right by my seating area. I will mainly will be using these for games and movies. So probably 90% games and movies, 10% music.

I would really appreciate hearing your experiences with the 5Ts. Thank you.

That's the exact setup I have in my MBR except I have an Epik Legend sub instead of the 10D. My room is a bit larger than yours, and my seating is nearfield instead of against the back wall, but I really like the speakers. My 4BPs are to the side of my listening position rather than behind it, and they truly are terrific; my wife and I both frequently think some of the sounds coming from them while watching movies are noises from outside the room. I listen to 2-channel music daily on my 5T's (with a crossover at 80 hz to the Legend) and am extremely happy with the sound.

You can search this thread about a year ago re: my experiences/concern with the crossover on the 5C, but I think that is a placement issue unique to my setup. It sounds really good, but the Audyssey settings for it have perplexed me. I still need to tinker with the placement in order to quell my OCD, but the setup sounds so good as it is that I keep forgetting to do that.
post #6504 of 6860
Tom and Hicks,

Thank you very much.

Since I have to put the surrounds on the back wall, how far up the wall would be optimal placement? I was thinking about 6 feet. And how far away from the side wall should I place it?

I am really looking forward to trying these out, I just need to wait until my basement is finished! I'm going to be pairing these with the new Panasonic ST60, I don't think I'll need to leave the basement ever. smile.gif
post #6505 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubears51 View Post

Tom and Hicks,

Thank you very much.

Since I have to put the surrounds on the back wall, how far up the wall would be optimal placement? I was thinking about 6 feet. And how far away from the side wall should I place it?

I am really looking forward to trying these out, I just need to wait until my basement is finished! I'm going to be pairing these with the new Panasonic ST60, I don't think I'll need to leave the basement ever. smile.gif

You're welcome. I have no idea about the optimal placement for the 4BP's, so maybe Hicks or someone else knowledgeable will chime in. I don't want to minimize the importance of optimal placement, but I will tell you that I would be very embarrassed to post here just how compromised the position of mine are (largely due to WAF) but they still sound great.

Have fun with your new setup!
post #6506 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubears51 View Post

Hello,

I have become increasingly interested in the Aperion speakers based of what I have been reading here and other places. Most of the recent talk on this forum has been about the Verus Grand Towers but those are priced out of my budget.

As Hicks already mentioned, if you can't find anybody nearby with the 5Ts, you can always order them from Aperion and try them for up to 30 days. If you decide you don't like them, they'll pay to ship them back and give you a full refund. That's hard to beat.

Also, if you are interested in the Verus Grands but they are out of your price range, you should check out their trade-in policy. You could always go Intimus now, and next year upgrade to Verus. Food for thought.
post #6507 of 6860
I agree. Order them! You have 30 days to audition and return if not happy at no cost to you! I dont think u will return them thou...i love my 5 b/c, 4b, and 8d bravus sub. Never been happier with a blind purchase in my life. The staff at Aperion are awesome and respond to every question or problem promptly and as you would wish. I had 1 speaker that was damaged in shipping and they replaced it right away. I did not have to send the damaged speaker back first or any of that nonsense and wait an eon either. They truly are great at customer service, as well as speaker production.
post #6508 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by DougReim View Post

Thanks........I have a Denon 4520CI.

Sorry it's been a few days since I've been over here, things have been busy at Aperion HQ. That's good for us, but no excuse for me to not respond to your posts.

As for your receiver, the Denon 4520 is a beast! You should be fine with the 8 ohm setting.
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubears51 View Post

Tom and Hicks,

Thank you very much.

Since I have to put the surrounds on the back wall, how far up the wall would be optimal placement? I was thinking about 6 feet. And how far away from the side wall should I place it?

I am really looking forward to trying these out, I just need to wait until my basement is finished! I'm going to be pairing these with the new Panasonic ST60, I don't think I'll need to leave the basement ever. smile.gif

Yes, six feet is an ideal height for the 4BPs. You want to keep them at least one foot from the side wall, but two feet will be even better.
post #6509 of 6860
Hi,
Does anyone have side to side experience with the Grand Bookshelf and the Grand Tower?
I was interested in the Towers but bought the Bookshelves thinking that I'd get a good idea of their sound and that the smaller speakers would be much easier to return if I didn't like them. That was a mistake because now I'm stuck. I think these speakers do some things great but there's a couple of weaknesses to my ears. I really want to like these speakers and get the Towers, they are absolutely the best looking speakers that I have seen. I know that's not supposed to matter but I can't help it, I really like the way these things look. I'm hoping someone is going to chime in and say , yeah.....the Towers do this differently and that differently addressing my perceived faults with the Bookshelves. Any thoughts regarding the differences between these two speakers would sure be appreciated, thanks.
post #6510 of 6860
Quote:
Originally Posted by DougReim View Post

Hi,
Does anyone have side to side experience with the Grand Bookshelf and the Grand Tower?
I was interested in the Towers but bought the Bookshelves thinking that I'd get a good idea of their sound and that the smaller speakers would be much easier to return if I didn't like them. That was a mistake because now I'm stuck. I think these speakers do some things great but there's a couple of weaknesses to my ears. I really want to like these speakers and get the Towers, they are absolutely the best looking speakers that I have seen. I know that's not supposed to matter but I can't help it, I really like the way these things look. I'm hoping someone is going to chime in and say , yeah.....the Towers do this differently and that differently addressing my perceived faults with the Bookshelves. Any thoughts regarding the differences between these two speakers would sure be appreciated, thanks.

It might help if you tell us your perceived faults.

Cheers
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