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post #6751 of 6862
Hi, could I get some opinions please: I am planning to buy Verus Grand Towers. Does it make sense to get them with Verus Forte Center? I am mostly into music, not movies. It seems in 5.1, the central is not so important, and Grand Center would be overkill maybe.
What do you think?
post #6752 of 6862
Center speaker is THE most important speaker with 5.1. But if your mostly music then you could get sway with it
post #6753 of 6862
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Originally Posted by 55la View Post

Hi, could I get some opinions please: I am planning to buy Verus Grand Towers. Does it make sense to get them with Verus Forte Center? I am mostly into music, not movies. It seems in 5.1, the central is not so important, and Grand Center would be overkill maybe.
What do you think?
Well if you do plan on using 5.1 for movies especially Blurays, I feel that if you are going to have the Grand Towers you really should match then with the Grand center. When watching movies with the HD audio tracks the fronts and surrounds can easily drown out a "smallish" center channel speaker. Having that larger center is worth it..
post #6754 of 6862
Thanks, but when I listen SACDs and DVDA there is not much in the central so., it seems. Movies are not important for me. Any music lovers who want to pitch in?
post #6755 of 6862
Well when i listen to 5.1 sacds i want all 5 speakers identically matches
post #6756 of 6862
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Originally Posted by 55la View Post

Thanks, but when I listen SACDs and DVDA there is not much in the central so., it seems. Movies are not important for me. Any music lovers who want to pitch in?

Well I don't listen to CD's mostly mp3s or flac or concert DVD/BLuRay...but when I do listen to a movie it is worth every penny to have the Grand Center..
Are you looking at buying a center at all or just don't want to pay for the Grand when a smaller will do?
If you mostly about music I'm not sure if you even need the towers compared to the quality of their bookshelf speakers mixed with a good subwoofer.
post #6757 of 6862
Oh yeah, definitely I need tower for music. But I am not sure about the center. I can afford the Grand center but my concern it would be waste of money.
post #6758 of 6862
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Well when i listen to 5.1 sacds i want all 5 speakers identically matches
Then ideally you want Grands for surround as well.
post #6759 of 6862
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Originally Posted by 55la View Post

Oh yeah, definitely I need tower for music. But I am not sure about the center. I can afford the Grand center but my concern it would be waste of money.
I understand that, I do love mine for my 2 channel listening .. and if you really dont sit down and watch a movie or 2 a week or alot of tv then yeah i wouldn't worry about getting the Grand center..the Forte would be plenty, you might have to change the levels on the towers for when you switch from music to 5.1 but that would be about it...
post #6760 of 6862
Guys, what do you think about 5T/ 5C/4BT/5B for a 7.1 system with PSA VX15, room is 12' W X 21' L X 8' H. Can Denon X3000 drive these 6Ohms tower speakers (talking about reference level)?
post #6761 of 6862
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Originally Posted by 55la View Post

Then ideally you want Grands for surround as well.

I have the VGTs and a Forte center along with VG bookshelves for side surrounds. The only reason I didn't get the VG center is that my AV console only has 8" of height space. The Forte would fit but not the Verus and modifying the console was not an option. The fronts sound great with the Forte but I still wonder what I am missing without the Verus. I wonder so much that I have considered buying a single Forte tower and laying it on it's side as a center. My advice is to buy the Verus center and the bookshelves for surrounds. Unless you are a very unusual person, sooner or later you are going to wonder what you may have missed.

As an aside, it would be nice if Hicks or someone else from Aperion would comment on the idea of using a Forte tower as a center. Thanks
post #6762 of 6862
Currently I'm patiently putting together a home theater system using Aperion speakers. I'm buying the versus line, even though it's taking me 3 to 4 months to save for each part of the system, I feel they are totally worth it! I bought Versus Grand Center channel first and was totally blown away when I hooked it up. I never realized how important the center channel is. Although it would be interesting to hear what the Forte center channel would sound like compared to the Versus. Knowing Aperion, I'm sure it sounds great. Just my two cents.
post #6763 of 6862
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

I have the VGTs and a Forte center along with VG bookshelves for side surrounds. The only reason I didn't get the VG center is that my AV console only has 8" of height space. The Forte would fit but not the Verus and modifying the console was not an option. The fronts sound great with the Forte but I still wonder what I am missing without the Verus. I wonder so much that I have considered buying a single Forte tower and laying it on it's side as a center. My advice is to buy the Verus center and the bookshelves for surrounds. Unless you are a very unusual person, sooner or later you are going to wonder what you may have missed.

As an aside, it would be nice if Hicks or someone else from Aperion would comment on the idea of using a Forte tower as a center. Thanks
Yes, I will be wondering. The size of the Grand center turns me off a bit. I will have 4 surrounds (Definitive 1000 probably). Are you music or movies person?
post #6764 of 6862
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Originally Posted by 55la View Post

Yes, I will be wondering. The size of the Grand center turns me off a bit. I will have 4 surrounds (Definitive 1000 probably). Are you music or movies person?

Far more movies than music although I have started to seriously listen to music again after getting the Aperions. They help to fill up a large very audio challenged room. I use Def Tech 8040 surrounds for the rear but would not use them for the sides. Bipolor does not work well in most of the room. Hope we get a response back from Aperion on the Forte tower as a center idea. I was out at their web site when I noticed your post.
post #6765 of 6862
Would be overkill I think...
post #6766 of 6862
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Originally Posted by 55la View Post

Would be overkill I think...

Not really. Trying to fill up a large room. Roughly 18' wide, 25' to nearest rear "wall" (~35' to a real floor to sealing wall) with a ~19' high hip roof and a 8' wide entry way to one side. Using a 10.3 system that has 3 subs and an old Klipsch center channel as a stand alone rear presence speaker. The Forte center, while good, leaves what I perceive as a "hole" in the sound field across the front probably because the GVTs are ~9' apart with a seating distance of 8-9'. The old Klipsch with 2 6" woofers and a 4-5" horn/tweeter front port design filled the "hole" better. The Klipsch size is much closer to that of the VG center than the Forte.
post #6767 of 6862
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Originally Posted by booga24 View Post

Guys, what do you think about 5T/ 5C/4BT/5B for a 7.1 system with PSA VX15, room is 12' W X 21' L X 8' H. Can Denon X3000 drive these 6Ohms tower speakers (talking about reference level)?

I wouldn't think you'd have a problem. I have the 5T/5C/4BT with an Epik Legend driven by a Denon 1911 in my MBR which is about the same size room. I've had no issues, and they sound pretty darned good. I've made a couple of posts about that setup in this thread if you want to search for them.
post #6768 of 6862
Any Aperion owners ever had issues with their glossy finish and a projector? I'm ordering 5T for my theater room and I'm little concern with reflection because of their glossy black finish.

Let me know fellas.
post #6769 of 6862
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames View Post

I wouldn't think you'd have a problem. I have the 5T/5C/4BT with an Epik Legend driven by a Denon 1911 in my MBR which is about the same size room. I've had no issues, and they sound pretty darned good. I've made a couple of posts about that setup in this thread if you want to search for them.






Good to know.
post #6770 of 6862
Hi,
Has anyone with the VGT's had an issue with buzzing? It seems to be coming from inside the right speaker around the lower port only at a certain frequency range and above 75-80 DBs. It's getting worse and becoming annoying. At first I barely noticed it and thought it might be something resonating in my room but as it became more noticeable I pinpointed it to inside the enclosure around the low port. Now I focus right to the buzzing and it's grating. I've had the speakers about 5-6 months and it just started about a week ago.
Anybody else with this problem?
Thanks
post #6771 of 6862
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Originally Posted by DougReim View Post

Hi,
Has anyone with the VGT's had an issue with buzzing? It seems to be coming from inside the right speaker around the lower port only at a certain frequency range and above 75-80 DBs. It's getting worse and becoming annoying. At first I barely noticed it and thought it might be something resonating in my room but as it became more noticeable I pinpointed it to inside the enclosure around the low port. Now I focus right to the buzzing and it's grating. I've had the speakers about 5-6 months and it just started about a week ago.
Anybody else with this problem?
Thanks

I have had my VGT's for about 4 months with no problems other than what I created myself. In that case it was a buzz from the tweeters at high volume but with no actual audio input. Turned out to be what in effect was a ground loop. Given that, have you made any changes in your setup shortly before the buzz started? If not , I would contact Aperion. Good luck
post #6772 of 6862
Been listening to speakers locally, Klipsh, PSB, B&W....I like Paridgms the best so far. I am not sure the Studio 60s are worth the extra money over the Monitor 11s, somedays yes somedays no. Hard to ignore all the good reviews of the VG towers. Anybody done a head to head with the VG towers vs Paradigm Monitor 11 or Studio 60s? I will use them for movies as well but mostly interested in music.
post #6773 of 6862
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Originally Posted by booga24 View Post

Any Aperion owners ever had issues with their glossy finish and a projector? I'm ordering 5T for my theater room and I'm little concern with reflection because of their glossy black finish.

Let me know fellas.

I got JVC projector and VGT and VGC (gloss black) on the front stage.
Since the VGT are toe in and the VGC is tilted up-ward they just disapear due to front of speaker are matte black.

Ray
post #6774 of 6862
Does Aperion run any sales ? Or are their prices usually firm ?
I'm thinking of grabbing Verus Forte towers and center but the pricing is a bit steep for me.
Seems kind of strange that the reviews I read online listed the price of Forte towers two years ago at around $450 and around a year ago at $540 but today the towers cost $700.
post #6775 of 6862
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Originally Posted by mizzoufan2001 View Post

Been listening to speakers locally, Klipsh, PSB, B&W....I like Paridgms the best so far. I am not sure the Studio 60s are worth the extra money over the Monitor 11s, somedays yes somedays no. Hard to ignore all the good reviews of the VG towers. Anybody done a head to head with the VG towers vs Paradigm Monitor 11 or Studio 60s? I will use them for movies as well but mostly interested in music.

Anyone?
post #6776 of 6862
Can someone give me the physical dimensions of the old Intimus 6C speaker? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the net. I have an opportunity to pick one up used but I need to figure out if it will be too big for where I'm going to have it.

Also, will the 6C be a good timbre match for my 5B mains?
Edited by gts007 - 11/4/13 at 10:27am
post #6777 of 6862
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Originally Posted by gts007 View Post

Can someone give me the physical dimensions of the old Intimus 6C speaker? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the net. I have an opportunity to pick one up used but I need to figure out if it will be too big for where I'm going to have it.

Also, will the 6C be a good timbre match for my 5B mains?

Dimensions are listed here:
http://www.aperionaudio.com/manuals/Manual_IntimusFamily.pdf

Looking at the specs on page 2, I believe the dimensions are: 7.33” H x 19.33” W x 8” D
post #6778 of 6862
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Originally Posted by jrnewquist View Post

Dimensions are listed here:
http://www.aperionaudio.com/manuals/Manual_IntimusFamily.pdf

Looking at the specs on page 2, I believe the dimensions are: 7.33” H x 19.33” W x 8” D

That's the 5C you're looking at. The 6C's cabinet is bigger than that.

Since my last post I did find this:
http://reviews.cnet.com/separate-speakers/aperion-intimus-6c-center/4507-7869_7-33195275.html

Thank you anyway.
post #6779 of 6862
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Originally Posted by mizzoufan2001 View Post

Anyone?

I doubt you will find anyone who has made the comparison. Aperion is internet sales only. I have the VGTs and love them. So much so that I cut up a $2k Salamander AV console Yesterday so I could fit the VG Center. Based upon my experience, the only way you will really tell what you want is to listen to them in your home setup. Showroom sound will not be the same. Read the Aperion reviews carefully and note that Aperion pays the shipping Both Ways if you buy and decide to send them back. Having sold some Def/Techs that didn't work in my setup despite trying beyond the point of returning them, I know shipping is not cheap. Go Tigers!
post #6780 of 6862
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

I doubt you will find anyone who has made the comparison. Aperion is internet sales only. I have the VGTs and love them. So much so that I cut up a $2k Salamander AV console Yesterday so I could fit the VG Center. Based upon my experience, the only way you will really tell what you want is to listen to them in your home setup. Showroom sound will not be the same. Read the Aperion reviews carefully and note that Aperion pays the shipping Both Ways if you buy and decide to send them back. Having sold some Def/Techs that didn't work in my setup despite trying beyond the point of returning them, I know shipping is not cheap. Go Tigers!

What he said ^^^^^^^^
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