Just Watched X3 WOW!!

I would have been excited except it was the worst xmen movie of them all. I'm glad the PQ was great though.

Yep Josh, I agree. I had the same reaction. I think a lot of people are allergic to film grain and think film should look like video. I didn't think it was the best X-Men movie but certainly worthy of the others. Seeing the movie in HD added to the presentation.

I also just watched it and for the first time, was impressed by Blu-Ray!

I still think HD DVD titles like Pitch Black, Kong, and MI3 look even better though.

But, overall, I enjoyed it and finally have some faith in BD!

(119" high powered, IF 7200)

I heard that MI:3 on both formats looked exactly the same, could you tell a difference? I think the movie that I want to see the most on HD-DVD is Chronicles of Riddick, and King kong wouldn't be bad either, to bad I ain't got the bucks$$.

What DVD player are you using for the screen shots in your Gallery?

Most of those shots were from my HTPC and HD LOTR .TS files.

I believe Maul was from the Oppo...not sure now as those pics are really old!

Yep...and those who didn't like the intended grainy film look in this one will love the first two when they come out.

Hey, if you like crap movies with great PQ....pick up Hulk for HD DVD. Seriously though, X3 is crap and is one of the reasons I don't have any BD titles yet. I am not a 16yr old pimply gamer, and thats who BD is catering to right now. HD DVD has a much better selection of titles right now.

funny, im not a 16 year old pimply gamer either, but i love the xmen movies. strange world isnt it?

Well, more power to ya I guess

Xmen 3 is just another pre packaged hollywood actioneer designed to snatch the hard earned money out of your hands. Sorry, but I don't pay for that crap.

I didn't care for it either, but you'll find that every movie, and I mean literally EVERY single movie has its fans. So calling *any* movie crap in a thread where people are excited about the best presentation of a movie they liked is pointless.

Anyway, I just watched X3 on Blu-ray last night to give it a second chance and agree that it looked and sounded really great.

Well, I guess I can accept that, but its still a bad movie.

As an avid reader of the X-Men comics in the mid-80s, I loved X3. Thought it was better than X2. Though, I guess it helps when you already know the story.

X2 totally destroys X3. I think one of the reasons some people loved X3 so much was that the action was far better. Brian Singer is a great director, but he can't touch Ratner in terms of handling action. X1 and 2 were both horrendous in terms of action. I also felt X3 had a better pace than X1 or X2.

However, what really stunk in X3 was the over-melodramatic symbolism that tries to appear smart but is so obvious, it falls on its face. The entire Angel/ Warren Worthington sidestory was so over the top, I couldn't stop laughing. It's obviously an allusion to the oppression of homsexuality. You know, Warren hiding his true self, being forced to accept a cure (eg: religion cures gays theory), then finding freedom in who he is. Flying is a symbolism of his new found acceptance of himself. Gee, thanks, whoever wrote the script. Very intelligent.

I agree that X2 is vastly superior to X3 but I think you're reading too much into it. X3 is not an allegory, there are no allusions to homosexuality, Brett Ratner isn't capable of going that deep. But since you brought it up, it's funny how you describe the symbolism as obvious when you clearly missed Magneto's fight being a reference to the holocaust during his speech to the brotherhood.

Yes, I just watched X3 on BD. Great PQ and SQ, I really liked those. Movie is a let-down, though. Just waiting to watch a GOOD movie with GOOD PQ and GOOD SQ...

I also enjoyed X3.

I would put it on the same level as the first two but what I liked best about it is everyone used their powers a LOT during it.

FINALLY!

Singer is so overated anyway.

I didn't miss Magneto's speech. I don't think anyone did. Magneto is molded from surviving the holocaust. That's something that's touched upon in the 1st film. However, Magneto is also a hypocrite since he's from the "survival of the fittest" mentality - something the Nazis were despised for.

I'm not talking about Magneto being molded from the holocaust, I'm talking specifically about the speech and how it alludes to the holocaust. "And you go on with your lives, ignoring the signs around you. And then one day, when the air is still and the night is fallen, they come for you" describes the Jews being taken from their homes and having their lives suddenly turned into a nightmare. That was the "obvious" allusion that serves as the theme for the movie. I'm not sure where you got all that homo stuff from. Like I said, Ratner's not capable of going that deep. Makes sense for Singer since he is gay himself.

X-Men was concieved in the 60's during a time of great social upheaval in Western culture. It's not a gay thing, it's about minorities being trodden on because they are not "normal"--race, religion, etc. Yes, there are parallels to Jewish oppression during the holocaust, racial oppression all throughout history, etc.

BTW, you guys did wait all the way through the final credits to see the additional teaser scene after the credits, right?

It was just a movie guys. People give too much credit to these movie people, though which causes most of these actors/directors to think the masses actually give a crap about what they think.

I liked X3 about the same as the other 2 in terms of it's story. I never followed the comics so don't imagine they're being true to them, but most movie adaptations aren't. I do agree that the action was handled better in 3 than 2, though from my non Xmen-fan perspective, I was a bit annoyed that some of the mutants from the previous movies weren't there.

Singer is definitely overrated though and Superman Returns blew, so maybe everything worked out the way it should have?

PQ and AQ were top notch, though. One... observation... I had was that dialog scenes sounded kinda muted (i would turn up the audio) but the action scenes were LOUD (i would turn down the audio). More of an observation than a complaint, though...

You're right, it's NOT a gay thing, but Singer incorporates it in the Bobby Drake character in X2 where he "comes out" to his parents about being a mutant. And yeah, I'm sure everyone saw the final scene though I don't think it matters because I doubt they're going to make a fourth film.

I doubt an X4 too, but you never know. They put a pretty big nail in the coffin of the series with X3. Then again, if you did have a reprise of Professor Xavier and Magneto in X4, you'd have the basis. (and maybe even Mystique) Just lose Jean Grey/Pheonix, but she was thought to be lost at the end of X2 anyway. Even Cyclops could be made not dead.

Like I said, if you read the comics, there is plenty of room for X4. It takes place even further into the future, with Logan finally being the leader in a military manner (he was always the silent-leader in the comics, though Orroro held the title after Scott left).

Yes, the Warren part was pretty stupid, it was simply put in the film for cool special effects.

X3 moved so quickly versus the comic. Jean-Grey for instance, in the comic, she started as Jean, then became Phoenix, and later became the Dark Phoenix (whom Logan did kill). Though a lot of time separated all of those events.

The actors/actresses chosen for the X-films were good, except for Rogue. In the comic, she was an outgoing "tom-boy". They should have selected someone like Pink to play the part, it would have fit better. All the other characters were pretty spot-on.

btw, their making "Magneto" and then "Wolverine - Weapon X", so it'll be a while for X4 is there ever is one.

Actually from what I've heard Wolverine is going to be made first, and then the Magneto spin-off. The wolverine script is now being worked on and they are shopping around for a director. H. Jackman has stated that the Wolverine prequel is scheduled to begin shooting sometime in 2007. Back on the Blu side of things...

X Men 3 is the fist Blu-ray titled I've bought, I ordered it through Amazon, and am anxiously expecting the disc's arrival. Hopefully we will see more great titles (X1 and 2, and especially Spiderman 1, 2 , and 3) in 2007!

Just wondering if the DTS MA on this disc comes through as 6.1 DTS ES discreet just like the SD-DVD but at 1.5mbps if using optical?

Yeah, I may have gotten the order mixed up on which is first.

I do know Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, and Rebecca R. have signed on for Magneto.

Thematically, the first X-Men is about the seeds of prejudice and what it could lead to if left unchecked - that is prejudice against minorities and uprising between the two camps.

X2 is more about turning points to defeat those prejudices and what needs to be in place to make things for the better. Two complete hints : political will and coming out as either gay, or in the case of Magneto as a Jew (no that wasn't in the film but you ought to get my drift) and for Bobby as a mutant.

X3 is about remnants of the prejudice and the time it takes to get rid of it, which is possibly never. The self-hatred by the minorities is a very important theme even after widespread or official bigotry is dealt with. Consider the scenes with Beast, Rogue and Storm. Rogue doesn't want to become a mutant anymore. Storm doesn't think there's anything wrong with being a mutant; however the cure in the movie could have also covered the idea of turning every one into a Caucasian. Beast and to a certain extent Mystique are among the most obvious of the mutants because of their physical attributes.

Basically, it's just about the prejudices that both the majority and minority camps have. I don't know if there's a gay/lesbian or transsexual X-Men in the comix but if that character makes it to the big screen and speaks out against bigotry, the dual meaning would be apparent. Since the first trilogy doesn't feature such a character, only strong hints of it can be made. Regardless, they are valid hints.


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I have owned an HD A1 since last spring and am a huge HD DVD fan. I finally bought yesterday a PS3 and I baptized it with X3. My reaction can be summed up by a single word: WOW!!!
I had read everywhere that the transfer was so so, grainy and soft. My opinion is that it's one of the best transfers I have ever seen, regardless of the format, and I simply had a great cinematic experience watching this BD on my PS3 linked via HDMI to a HC 5000, with the sound coming out a denon 2807. On top of that, I am one of those who love the movie so, who could ask for more?

To all HD DVD and BD fans: consider not supporting one format alone, but both, because what we love, after all, is watching the movies we like in great high def. transfers.

One last word: I found the look of the X3 transfer to be very AVC (compare for example with the Japanese Equilibrium HD DVD, if memory serves). I am wondering if I will see any difference with BD encoded with other codecs...