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post #31 of 89
I just got a PS3 myself and am now in both camps. Just watched X-Men 3, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It does show what Blu-Ray is capable of in many scenes.

But don't kid yourself, it is definitely grainy. Some of the graininess rivals that of Waterworld on HD DVD.
post #32 of 89
I agree it is grainy, but I honestly think that's what the director intended. I feel he uses the grain inherent in the Super 35 Format to contribute to the mood of the movie and/or, perhaps, to evoke the grain of a course and rough paper.
As for Waterworld, I did not buy the HD DVD because I saw the movie in a theater when it was released and, at the time, disliked it very much.
post #33 of 89
I will say that I thought the movie was terrible but I loved the scene where xavier trys to get control of jean again , I absolutly love the music and sound during that scene
post #34 of 89
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Originally Posted by Chris Dotur View Post

I doubt an X4 too, but you never know. They put a pretty big nail in the coffin of the series with X3. Then again, if you did have a reprise of Professor Xavier and Magneto in X4, you'd have the basis. (and maybe even Mystique) Just lose Jean Grey/Pheonix, but she was thought to be lost at the end of X2 anyway. Even Cyclops could be made not dead.

You doubt an X4? are you kidding me. X3 broke in to the $100 millions. Money talks BS walks. To bring professor X back in X4 all they need to do is go into the Bishop story lines. Bishops come back at one point because Prof. X was killed and the future turns out to be bad for the mutants. This is fantasy, the possibilities are enless.
post #35 of 89
Film grain this, film grain that. Some people make it sound like Blu-ray is incapable of using VC-1 like is an HD-DVD thing only.
post #36 of 89
Did nobody see this in theaters...it was grainy as can be in theaters and on sd dvd....the bd blows away both by a mile.

Wait for 1/2 on BD if you want the clean look only.
post #37 of 89
Earz, I fully agree.
post #38 of 89
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Originally Posted by nismor2 View Post

You doubt an X4? are you kidding me. X3 broke in to the $100 millions. Money talks BS walks. To bring professor X back in X4 all they need to do is go into the Bishop story lines. Bishops come back at one point because Prof. X was killed and the future turns out to be bad for the mutants. This is fantasy, the possibilities are enless.


SPOILERS:

They already established that the Professor is alive and well in X3. Wait until the credits are over. (Yes, it's weird to put such an important plot point in there after the credits, but there you have it. ^_^)
post #39 of 89
x-3 was my first blu movie. i have an a-1 and a-2. my god i think this is the best video and audio i have ever seen on either format, and i have alot of hd dvd's. i also got to see t.d.w.p. and the wild. all were incredible. they rival or better the hulk on hd dvd. I got the sony for christmas, welcome me with open arms guys i am neutral (for now).
post #40 of 89
I just saw this on my PS3/D-ILA FP setup and was not impressed. Color seemed muted and thin veil of veneer seemed excessive. Compared to Matador on HD DVD, which I saw immediately afterwards, this was very poor PQ wise, a low Tier 2 or high Tier 3 at best. I am not against film grain, but this seemed more than just grain. I did not see this at the theater, so I don't know whether this is how it should have looked, but I didn't like it. Audio on the other hand, just rocked. DTS core came through as a full 1.5Mbps DTS ES over SPDIF to my receiver and sounded awesome.
post #41 of 89
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Originally Posted by beatboy77 View Post

I finally got around to watching X3 and I am in shock. This is perhaps the best film I have seen so far as far PQ goes on my set-up (Sony VW-50, PS3, Da-Lite High Power 110"). The PQ of this is easily as good as King Kong. The sound was mesmerizing as well. Very good use of LFE!! The colors were extraordinary, especially in the scenes where they are at the lake.

I am very very surprised some people complained about the PQ of this title. It obviously must be their display. This release has taken HD to a new high level.

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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

my god i think this is the best video and audio i have ever seen on either format, and i have alot of hd dvd's. i also got to see t.d.w.p. and the wild. all were incredible. they rival or better the hulk on hd dvd.

I'm curious, either you are both very easy to please, are not seeing what many others are seeing, or are trying to give a glowing review where one isn't warranted. From what I've read by most others this transfer is good (receiving a 4 out of 5 from both DVDTalk and High-Def Digest), but definitely nowhere near the likes of King Kong or Hulk on HD DVD, both which received a perfect 5 out of 5 for PQ.

DVDTalk's review of the disc noted that "X-Men: The Last Stand certainly has that high-definition look to the film, but feels a bit out of place in some areas. The first possible problem might be that Fox decided to use a BD-25 disc instead of the early rumored BD-50 (films like Click get a BD-50, but not this one)? The video quality doesn't suffer completely though as many sequences looked fine. The use of detail was NEARLY perfect as the facial features on many of the characters (especially Wolverine's beard) sparked to life. The only poor use of detail was the sequence when Magneto moved the Golden Gate Bridge (many of the smaller details were hard to make out)." High-Def Digest liked the picture quality as well, but did note that there was "posterization throughout the film. Nothing severe, but gradual transitions of color sometimes looked blocky and artificial."

Do you both truly believe that the PQ of X-Men 3 is the best that Blu-Ray has to offer?
post #42 of 89
bump

transporter 2. is a PQ god.

I hated it/ thought it was way too post processed.


but it does have unquestionable PQ skillz.
post #43 of 89
I watched X Men 3 last night, very nice PQ, sharp, very high-def looking, lots of 3D 'pop'. It may or may not be the best BD has to offer, but it's a nice looking and sounding disc nonetheless
post #44 of 89
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Originally Posted by MidnightWatcher View Post

I'm curious, either you are both very easy to please, are not seeing what many others are seeing, or are trying to give a glowing review where one isn't warranted. From what I've read by most others this transfer is good (receiving a 4 out of 5 from both DVDTalk and High-Def Digest), but definitely nowhere near the likes of King Kong or Hulk on HD DVD, both which received a perfect 5 out of 5 for PQ.

DVDTalk's review of the disc noted that "X-Men: The Last Stand certainly has that high-definition look to the film, but feels a bit out of place in some areas. The first possible problem might be that Fox decided to use a BD-25 disc instead of the early rumored BD-50 (films like Click get a BD-50, but not this one)? The video quality doesn't suffer completely though as many sequences looked fine. The use of detail was NEARLY perfect as the facial features on many of the characters (especially Wolverine's beard) sparked to life. The only poor use of detail was the sequence when Magneto moved the Golden Gate Bridge (many of the smaller details were hard to make out)." High-Def Digest liked the picture quality as well, but did note that there was "posterization throughout the film. Nothing severe, but gradual transitions of color sometimes looked blocky and artificial."

Do you both truly believe that the PQ of X-Men 3 is the best that Blu-Ray has to offer?

well ,like i said, i've only seen 3 bd's and loved all 3. I have 24 or 25 hd dvd's and never expected to even see a blu ray player (my wife got me the sony for christmas, (cause no way i would spend another grand on my theater,if you know what i mean)I kept going "my god do you see how great that picture looks?" every shot on x-3 and the wild were as good as, or better than any movie i already have on hd dvd. I have the sony hooked via component and the a-1 was hooked up via hdmi ( i've replaced it w/ the a-2) do you think my hdmi cable could be too long and such not be giving me a true pic from my a-2? (30') I will be viewing more bd's soon (she got me 6 bd's for christmas also). I bought bhd yesterday and will try to see it in the next couple of days.
post #45 of 89
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

well ,like i said, i've only seen 3 bd's and loved all 3. I have 24 or 25 hd dvd's and never expected to even see a blu ray player (my wife got me the sony for christmas, (cause no way i would spend another grand on my theater,if you know what i mean)I kept going "my god do you see how great that picture looks?" every shot on x-3 and the wild were as good as, or better than any movie i already have on hd dvd. I have the sony hooked via component and the a-1 was hooked up via hdmi ( i've replaced it w/ the a-2) do you think my hdmi cable could be too long and such not be giving me a true pic from my a-2? (30') I will be viewing more bd's soon (she got me 6 bd's for christmas also). I bought bhd yesterday and will try to see it in the next couple of days.

I'm no expert when it comes to the best DVI or HDMI cable lengths, but 30' sounds like it's pushing it. My guess is that you're experiencing some sort of HD DVD picture degradation due to this length, especially if you've purchased a generic "inexpensive" HDMI cable. I'd say try something much shorter if possible. Others may like to chime in.
post #46 of 89
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Originally Posted by MidnightWatcher View Post

I'm no expert when it comes to the best DVI or HDMI cable lengths, but 30' sounds like it's pushing it. My guess is that you're experiencing some sort of HD DVD picture degradation due to this length, especially if you've purchased a generic "inexpensive" HDMI cable. I'd say try something much shorter if possible. Others may like to chime in.

I think i'll look into a component switcher or something, cause my hdmi goes from my closet to the projector on the ceiling through the attic (boy was that a booger getting that in). and my receiver only has 2 component inputs. cable and blu on those and hdmi for hd dvd.
post #47 of 89
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

well ,like i said, i've only seen 3 bd's and loved all 3. I have 24 or 25 hd dvd's and never expected to even see a blu ray player (my wife got me the sony for christmas, (cause no way i would spend another grand on my theater,if you know what i mean)I kept going "my god do you see how great that picture looks?" every shot on x-3 and the wild were as good as, or better than any movie i already have on hd dvd. I have the sony hooked via component and the a-1 was hooked up via hdmi ( i've replaced it w/ the a-2) do you think my hdmi cable could be too long and such not be giving me a true pic from my a-2? (30') I will be viewing more bd's soon (she got me 6 bd's for christmas also). I bought bhd yesterday and will try to see it in the next couple of days.

I have done several installs of the HD-A1 using 50' HDMI cables from monoprice.com and everything worked fine. There was no degradation in PQ at all. The two Blu-ray discs you watched (X3 and The Wild) are just simply that, AMAZING!! Blu-ray is everybit as good as HD-DVD and some, including myself feel it is better on certain releases.

How do you like the speed and smoothness of the PS3 as a Blu-ray player? Sweet isn't it?

~Josh
post #48 of 89
i've actually got the sony s-1. i just missed out on a ps3.
post #49 of 89
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

x-3 was my first blu movie. i have an a-1 and a-2. my god i think this is the best video and audio i have ever seen on either format, and i have alot of hd dvd's. i also got to see t.d.w.p. and the wild. all were incredible. they rival or better the hulk on hd dvd. I got the sony for christmas, welcome me with open arms guys i am neutral (for now).

This will be my first BD movie too. Will report back.

I just sold my XA1, but I've viewed at least 30 HD-DVD's. I'm trying out Bluray now, I'll buy a new HD-DVD player during the holidays.
post #50 of 89
I found X-men3 good, but too grainy and often too soft.
post #51 of 89
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Originally Posted by beatboy77 View Post

I finally got around to watching X3 and I am in shock. This is perhaps the best film I have seen so far as far PQ goes on my set-up (Sony VW-50, PS3, Da-Lite High Power 110"). The PQ of this is easily as good as King Kong. The sound was mesmerizing as well. Very good use of LFE!! The colors were extraordinary, especially in the scenes where they are at the lake.

I am very very surprised some people complained about the PQ of this title. It obviously must be their display. This release has taken HD to a new high level.

Highly Recommended!!

~Josh

What the heck?!
post #52 of 89
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Originally Posted by Kampf kobold View Post

I found X-men3 good, but too grainy and often too soft.

I have to agree. There are certainly better looking BR titles out there!
post #53 of 89
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Originally Posted by cnickersonjr View Post

This will be my first BD movie too. Will report back.

I just sold my XA1, but I've viewed at least 30 HD-DVD's. I'm trying out Bluray now, I'll buy a new HD-DVD player during the holidays.

I watched a few scenes to check it out. Man does the DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio rock. Blows any TrueHD sound track I've ever heard out the water! The PQ is nice too, on my BD-P1000 with latest firmware. I like the comic book info popups, neat feature.
post #54 of 89
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Originally Posted by cnickersonjr View Post

I watched a few scenes to check it out. Man does the DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio rock. Blows any TrueHD sound track I've ever heard out the water! The PQ is nice too, on my BD-P1000 with latest firmware. I like the comic book info popups, neat feature.

You would have been only hearing the DTS core of the track. I don't think any player/amp can play/decode lossless DTS yet.
post #55 of 89
^ Welcome to the Blu world!

I'm sure you're going to fall in love with the lossless tracks on many BR discs.
post #56 of 89
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Originally Posted by TwisTz View Post

You would have been only hearing the DTS core of the track. I don't think any player/amp can play/decode lossless DTS yet.

Damn this is just the core? Sh*t it sounds better than any TrueHD I've ever heard.
post #57 of 89
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Originally Posted by Honey1 View Post

...To all HD DVD and BD fans: consider not supporting one format alone, but both, because what we love, after all, is watching the movies we like in great high def. transfers...

That was initially my sentiment. Like you, I started out with an HD A1 and was very satisified. But since picking up my PS3 last December, my attitude has slowly changed. First, I hate the combo discs...period. So I began to buy most titles in Blu-ray except of course for Universal and a couple of Weinstein titles. Then I really began to prefer the flawless operation of the PS3 over the HD A1. In order to fend off any hiccups during playback on the HD A1, I kept a can of compressed air next to the player to guard against dust causing the occasional freezes or skips. I didn't have anywhere near the problems some experienced but it was still a minor nuisance.

I never experienced similar problems with the PS3. The firmware updates are extremely easy and the playback experience is as seamless as using a standard DVD player only with spectacular image and sound. So, I am neutral no longer. I have just chosen to wait for Universal. And I want the war to come to a conclusion so that all retailers can embrace Blu-ray with gusto.
post #58 of 89
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Just wondering if the DTS MA on this disc comes through as 6.1 DTS ES discreet just like the SD-DVD but at 1.5mbps if using optical?

I got the 6.1 through optical. I was wondering if it's possible to get 6.1 via HDMI. If you select the 6.1 track (default) you only get 5.1 multichannel. Shouldn't you be able to get 6.1 uncompressed via HDMI? My reciever is the Onkyo 605 for a 7.1 set up.
post #59 of 89
The PS3 turns both 6.1 DD EX and 6.1 DTS-ES into 5.1 PCM if PCM output is selected. I can get the proper 6.1 track by selecting Bitstream output. I think we need an auto mode since that's... inelegant, if not cumbersome, to manually change. The main issue here being that it's DTS-HD. Outside of PCM tracks, we haven't seen any other 6.1 or 7.1 legacy codec tracks IIRC.

Except for DVD, this has mostly been a non-issue except for the Fox titles that use DTS-HD, of course, since it's being downmixed into legacy DTS. I"m not quite sure what the PS3 would do with 6.1 or 7.1 TrueHD or DD+ nor with decoded DTS-HD since we haven't seen any tracks yet
post #60 of 89
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Originally Posted by UxiSXRD View Post

The PS3 turns both 6.1 DD EX and 6.1 DTS-ES into 5.1 PCM if PCM output is selected. I can get the proper 6.1 track by selecting Bitstream output. I think we need an auto mode since that's... inelegant, if not cumbersome, to manually change. The main issue here being that it's DTS-HD. Outside of PCM tracks, we haven't seen any other 6.1 or 7.1 legacy codec tracks IIRC.

Except for DVD, this has mostly been a non-issue except for the Fox titles that use DTS-HD, of course, since it's being downmixed into legacy DTS. I"m not quite sure what the PS3 would do with 6.1 or 7.1 TrueHD or DD+ nor with decoded DTS-HD since we haven't seen any tracks yet

Why not just set the PS3 to output bitstream and you will get whatever you select? DD, DTS 5.1, DTS 6.1, PCM or DD True HD.
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