Roaring Fork Cinema construction thread - Page 8

Thanks zxlr8. I think it turned out really nice. I'm especially happy with the texture it has instead of being completely flat. I posted some info about the hardwood a couple of pages back in post #157. Here's a snippet which I think includes what you're looking for. I also realize now that it isn't listed as Maxwell on the IFloor website, but rather as woodstock hardwood. The color is "Golden Amber". Here's a link to to product:

http://www.ifloor.com/item_399663/ha...den-amber.html


I actually have one extra unopened box of the material, but it is a bit large to ship anywhere. If someone wants it and they're local, let me know. I'd let it go cheap.

-Ryan

34sq ft per box.

-Ryan

I finished up my stage yesterday and started planning for acoustic treatments and fabric. We're still figuring out exactly the right color combinations - I'm expecting one last round of samples from GOM shortly and we'll be set. In the meantime I'm proceeding with the wall treatments. I've cut all the pieces to block out outlets and the like, and I'm assembling those tonight. I'll get some pictures. I'm also clear on how I'm going to get fabric up on the wall behind the screen and most other spots. I'm still a little unclear on how I want to do fabric on the soffit, but I'm working that out.

You can see from the picture that I'm in the process of relocating some outlets where my bass traps will be. The trap on the right is particularly interesting since I couldn't frame a proper corner there. I'm going to lay down two sets of triangles (sort of) that will get the best trap I can fit in that space. I'll get some better pictures as I get furring strips up.



-Ryan

I mentioned a few posts back that we had a fabric selection. Well we wanted to check a few more samples. Those came yesterday and re-affirmed our choices. Here's how we ended up:

Left is GOM Anchorage: Deep Water. Used on the bottom of the side and rear walls under the chair rail.
Center is Dazian TrapezePlus: Cadet Blue. Used on the top of the side and rear walls over the chair rail.
Bottom is Dazian Celtic Cloth in black. Used to cover the bottom and sides of the soffits, the screen wall and the ceiling.
Top is fidelio velvet. Used to create a border for the screen.
The orange in the picture is unused.



I'm still working on furring out the front wall of the theater. I'll post pics in the next few days of that and the rest of the furring strips as I figure it out around the room.

-Ryan

I have a couple of updates:

My Slim-5 rack arrives today! I hope to assemble it and get some pictures this weekend.

Furring strip work continues. I'll measure for fabric this weekend and order on Monday.

I ordered a Lutron Grafik Eye QS 6-zone lighting controller and it should ship next week:



I also ordered a separate switch for placement next to my entry door. Mine is the single-switch version of this:



Finally, I found a deal on some side-surround speakers to match my existing B&W's. I've been keeping an eye out for some B&W DS7's. I was also interested in their VM6 speakers as well, so I'm going to make a final decision tonight and move on the DS7's or source the VM6's locally. Either way, here are pictures of both:

DS7:


VM6:


-Ryan

Thanks Chris. I ordered samples from Interface twice. Both times the samples arrived in about a week. Dazian was also 4 or 5 days. Dazian's didn't show up at first so I called and they re-sent with no difficulty.

-Ryan

This weekend I got my Slim-5 rack delivered and built. It fit through the opening (but only about the bottom 60% of the opening was wide enough!) I bought a planer and I'll widen it slightly to fit. I'm probably 1/16 or 1/8" off in total.

I also got my front wall almost completely treated. Wow! What a difference. I didn't really expect to be able to hear much right away, but I could tell there was a difference immediately. I am able to hear a difference in sound in that room w/ the double drywall and green glue than in the other rooms, but the treatments really made a difference.



I'm working through the furring of the rest of the room, more pics on that soon.

-Ryan

While not actually working on furring strips, I've made progress in several more areas:

First, I posted about the furring strips hoping to find an easier solution than ripping lumber (I'm a bit tired of sawdust!). Here's the thread. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1011423. Net result: I'm going to rip lumber for furring strips.

We went sconce-shopping yesterday and made a selection. I ordered them this morning and will find out when to expect them later today. I sourced them locally through a vendor I've used before and got a better price than I could find online - even after tax. We're going with the black iron finish and the white glass as pictured.


http://www.lightinguniverse.com/prod...rm=&sku=899146

I secured my B&W DS7's and they're on the way and should arrive Friday. I also placed the fabric order Monday and it will all arrive Friday.

I'm going to order my projector (Sony VPL-VW60) very soon now. I plan to put it in place to get a final screen size and then immediately remove it and build my screen wall as I get to fabric work.

Lastly I had my carpet contractor come out yesterday. He is who I used for the rest of the basement. We got an install quote (it wasn't bad at all) and just need to get a selection we like. He's coming back by Tuesday morning with some more samples. Once that selection is finalized I'll post pictures. I will want to get all the trim up before I schedule the installation - and probably the star ceiling too.

I need to do some more research on the star ceiling, but I'm pretty sure I'm going with the solution StarDesigner has available.

-Ryan

Thanks! I can't wait either. I've had a busy couple of days and haven't had time to get down there in the evenings, otherwise I think I would have the furring strip job done.


This is tough to explain. The first noticeable difference was when I put in the two layers of 5/8 drywall with green glue. The room definitely sounded more isolated and dead (less echo) than the other rooms. After a couple of weeks went by and I also added the second layer of 3/4 subfloor this sense was heightened. Putting the treatment on the front wall was really noticeable though. When I'm in the room if I speak towards that wall you can hear the sound effectively stop at the wall. If I turn around and speak it simply sounds different - I would describe that sense as if I hear more echo towards the untreated (so far!) rear wall and effectively none towards the front wall.

My goal remains to get the best sound I can out of the room and within my budget without being too terribly concerned about sound escaping the room. I will say that with the door closed to the room, you really can't hear much in the rest of the basement - when I have tools going like my air compressor, etc. Likewise I can't hear my kids playing (stomping, running, doing what 2 and 5 year olds do) above in the HT nearly as well as I can in the rest of the basement.

-Ryan

One thing I should add with this sound treatment business - all of what I'm doing is at Bryan Pape's (bpape here) recommendation. I engaged Bryan and paid for a room analysis. His prices are very reasonable and he is super-easy to work with. I know lots of folks have said this in the past - I am simply reaffirming what was said before. If it weren't for Bryan I would have used 1" ductliner (linacoustic) all around and some quilting cotton on the upper half of my walls. After discussing with Bryan I'm sure that what we've got going here is a far superior solution. Anyway, enough of the commercial - just giving credit where credit is due.

-Ryan

Sure thing - I don't anticipate a rattle, but if it happens I'll try to find a way to address it - we'll have to see once I get the sconces up on the wall and my equipment in place. Probably a month or so from now.

-Ryan

Thanks Funston! I'm glad we spent the extra on those sconces over some of our other choices - unfortunately I've done that in a lot of places so my "budget" isn't all that on-target.

I didn't do anything special, just ordered samples directly from the GOM sample center online. They all came in that larger size. Try giving them a call and see what they say.

-Ryan

My fabrics and speakers arrived a few minutes ago. Here are the photographs:







-Ryan

I must say I'm excited to get the black fabric up on my front wall and move on to the rest of them.


Thanks! I'm already thrilled to death with the rest of my B&W setup so I'm sure these will fit in nicely. I found out yesterday the sconces will be 2-3 weeks, so that should be plenty of time.

I need to order my projector in the next week or so, then I'll use it to get an exact screen size that we're comfortable with.

-Ryan

I had my carpet guy out again today and got some photos of two choices we like a lot. I'm interested in your opinions. What are you folks doing for carpet install? I'm wondering if I should do carpet after fabric or before. If after, how much should I be concerned where the carpet is up against the GOM and Dazian fabrics on my side and screen walls respectively? I just don't want to see the fabric get damaged by the backing of the carpet. The installer they'll send is the same who did the rest of the basement and he did a great job, so I'm comfortable with his work in general.

Anyway, on to the pictures:

Option A is this pattern in the gray color in the second picture. The gray really compliments the blues we've already picked out for the walls:





Option B is this pattern in the black in the second picture. We're concerned about using black and having every last speck of lint and the like be completely visible on black.





-Ryan

Thanks! I'll take a look at your thread in more detail but at a quick glance if you can afford the extra 3' outside of the theater, definitely make it longer. Especially if you're planning to use an acoustically transparent routine and/or put in two rows of seating. At 19'6", with the AT screen and two rows, my room is about as tight as is possible, in my opinion. I wouldn't go any smaller with my setup. I'd love another 4'-5' of depth and 2-3' of width.

My berks spec to recline to 70" for the 45002's and 73" for 13175's. I'm a little tight here as well with the 6'4" riser, but I figure I can push the front row forward slightly if necessary. I looked at all the specs of the seats I was interested in from Berkline and generally they take up ~69" of recline space or more, with a few exceptions. A little extra riser space for you makes sense if you can spare it.

-Ryan

Thanks guys. Funston: I actually like the pattern of Option B a little better, but to walk on, Option A is more comfortable and the gray blends nicely with our colors. I'm pretty-well sold on the gray at this point - we'll see if my wife agrees after having an night to sleep on it.

Bud: I agree with the black on the stage, I do want it to disappear when watching. That's something I'll bring up to my wife again and see if she'll go for it. My concern now is if I should get carpet in before or after fabric. I know a lot of folks have done carpet after, but how was the carpet backing on the fabric? Any concern for the GOM getting marred or otherwise damaged?

-Ryan