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post #211 of 3769
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Originally Posted by Free View Post

Those of you who got samples, how fast did you get them after requesting them from Da-lite. I want to get my screen ordered, but need to wait for the sample to be sure it is the right thing to do.

Freee, I sent an e-mail requesting samples and seven days later I had them--lots of them--and I live in Canada. Hope you get yours soon.
post #212 of 3769
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Originally Posted by Free View Post

Those of you who got samples, how fast did you get them after requesting them from Da-lite. I want to get my screen ordered, but need to wait for the sample to be sure it is the right thing to do.

Mine came in just 2-3 days.
post #213 of 3769
Cool guy's, Thanks.
post #214 of 3769
milit: Considering Vutec SS screen, might be way too bright for my environment, we will see sample coming soon along with some pieces from Stewart. Studiotek and a few others. The only thing I am worried about is that if I go with the HP that it will look brighter in one area verses another and won't be uniform, I am about 15 feet away, PJ is 3 feet above my head. Current Vutec looks good, but I wan't something with more pop too it. Using a Sony Pearl which I am very impressed with.
post #215 of 3769
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Originally Posted by Garman View Post

milit: Considering Vutec SS screen, might be way too bright for my environment, we will see sample coming soon along with some pieces from Stewart. Studiotek and a few others. The only thing I am worried about is that if I go with the HP that it will look brighter in one area verses another and won't be uniform, I am about 15 feet away, PJ is 3 feet above my head. Current Vutec looks good, but I wan't something with more pop too it. Using a Sony Pearl which I am very impressed with.

I hope the brightness doesn't vary from one part of the screen to another. If so, it goes against what a lot of people here have claimed is one of the screen's strengths. It may dim from one angle to another, but it's supposed to dim evenly across the screen - without hotspotting. One thing I think I can tell from the holding the SS and the HP samples together and moving them around at relative angles to the light is that this seems to be the case with the HP. The SS, on the other hand, looks as though it might be uneven. There's definitely a sheen that isn't present with the HP. If you get samples of both, try superimposing the HP on top of the larger SS sample and move it around. I think you'll be surprised how evenly the HP changes.
post #216 of 3769
I just found out something about the HP and SS. I got a smudge on the HP, so I brought in a cloth and some water and wiped it off. At first, it looked as though it would leave awful streaks, but it dried perfectly. OTOH, I applied a little fingernail to what looked like a tiny black spot on the surface. Big mistake - permanently scratched, and not with a lot of effort. That spot, though, was an actual flaw in the surface - a superficial "tear." When I tried to duplicate the scratch in a different area, I couldn't do it, even with a lot more fingernail force applied. I thought the SS looked more immune to such attacks, so I scratched away just as with the HP. The marks my nail left were obvious - as though I had buffed shiny a dull finish. The HP was actually a little more immune to such abrasions than the SS, but I wouldn't want to have a rowdy bunch of kids too near either of them. I suppose that's true of all screens, though.
post #217 of 3769
Trying to get a hold of samples let alone trying to find anywhere who has a whole screen is almost impossible here in Perth Australia. Need to find someone who has a HP and SS sample they no longer need who would be willing to ship for me (i'll pay for postage of course).

Shipping a hp will more than likley be cheaper because it can be rolled up but with my hs50 roof mounted and seating I may have to get the SS.

How bad and how many people see sparklies.
post #218 of 3769
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Originally Posted by milit View Post

Imageek2, thanks for responding. My seating position is 14 feet from the screen.

Milit

At 14 ' back and 36" from eyes to projector you will be around a 12 degree viewing angle. You should see some very nice gain with the HP, lots of pop.
post #219 of 3769
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Originally Posted by Imageek2 View Post

At 14 ' back and 36" from eyes to projector you will be around a 12 degree viewing angle. You should see some very nice gain with the HP, lots of pop.

Thanks Imageek, I don't know how you calculated the above but it sounds great. I can't wait to get my screen and put it to the test. I am so afraid I might have to watch all my movies all over again since the HP seems to reveal so much more details that was previously hidden.
post #220 of 3769
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I just found out something about the HP and SS. I got a smudge on the HP, so I brought in a cloth and some water and wiped it off. At first, it looked as though it would leave awful streaks, but it dried perfectly. OTOH, I applied a little fingernail to what looked like a tiny black spot on the surface. Big mistake - permanently scratched, and not with a lot of effort. That spot, though, was an actual flaw in the surface - a superficial "tear." When I tried to duplicate the scratch in a different area, I couldn't do it, even with a lot more fingernail force applied. I thought the SS looked more immune to such attacks, so I scratched away just as with the HP. The marks my nail left were obvious - as though I had buffed shiny a dull finish. The HP was actually a little more immune to such abrasions than the SS, but I wouldn't want to have a rowdy bunch of kids too near either of them. I suppose that's true of all screens, though.

Joseph Clark, this is good to know. I will be very careful around the HP
post #221 of 3769
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Originally Posted by Garman View Post

milit: Considering Vutec SS screen, might be way too bright for my environment, we will see sample coming soon along with some pieces from Stewart. Studiotek and a few others. The only thing I am worried about is that if I go with the HP that it will look brighter in one area verses another and won't be uniform, I am about 15 feet away, PJ is 3 feet above my head. Current Vutec looks good, but I wan't something with more pop too it. Using a Sony Pearl which I am very impressed with.

Garman, I was interested in the SS too but the price ruled it out. I hope the HP has uniform brightness because that would be unbearable. From what I have read that doesn't seem to be a trait though. I guess I will find out in about a week or so.
post #222 of 3769
I just got tracking confirmation that my screen arrived this evening in Fort Wayne, Indiana, not too far from St. Louis. It should be here by the end of the week. It's going up ASAP. My Chief mounting gear should be here soon, too, but I don't know if it will come in time to put it up this weekend. I won't be able to tell too much, but one experiment I intend to try is placing the HP and the Firehawk side by side for a while to see how they compare with the projector in its current position (high shelf mount, about 7' high and just below the top of the screen - my head at about the bottom of the screen - 110" screen). That'll give me a good idea about HP gain in a less than optimal arrangement.
post #223 of 3769
milit/Joeseph Clark: Well I did a extensive screen test last night, if you could call it that with the limited about of material they give you Stewart was very kind and sent me 5 different pieces of screen material. Studiotek 130, Ultramatte 130,150, 200 and Firekhawk SST and then I had a couple from DA-LITE and the Vutec SS.. I must say which I found odd, is that all the pieces from Stewart didn't seem to make any improvements to the picture at all, in fact the Studiotek 130 and my current Vutec where so close I could not tell the difference. The brightest of course was the VuTec SS and a very very close second was the DA-LITE HP, it was a toss up between these two, but the DA-Lite HP won me over because it did not have that sheen on bright sceens in movies and pictures, used Blu-Ray as source material and some high-Res pictures.. So it looks like I will be going the HP route with a thicker boarder....
post #224 of 3769
Just got the HP and replaced a similar sized 106" Optoma Graywolf mated with the Sony Pearl.
The HP is just an impressive screen. The smoothness and corner to corner consistency is just amazing.

All the chatter about the cone has been interesting but the Graywolf actually showed more change in moving around than the HP based on my room setup: 30 feet long by 11 feet wide. Obviously my room is just about perfect for the HP due to its narrow width but thus far all I can say is there is no hype to the value and performance of Da-lite's HP.

It's that good.
post #225 of 3769
romanesq - How is your PJ mounted and what's the distance from the viewer to the lens? Still stuck on what to do with the new RS1 and figured out a way to shelf mount at the back of the room if I had to...
post #226 of 3769
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I just got tracking confirmation that my screen arrived this evening in Fort Wayne, Indiana, not too far from St. Louis. It should be here by the end of the week. It's going up ASAP. My Chief mounting gear should be here soon, too, but I don't know if it will come in time to put it up this weekend. I won't be able to tell too much, but one experiment I intend to try is placing the HP and the Firehawk side by side for a while to see how they compare with the projector in its current position (high shelf mount, about 7' high and just below the top of the screen - my head at about the bottom of the screen - 110" screen). That'll give me a good idea about HP gain in a less than optimal arrangement.

Joseph Clark, I hope you get your screen by the weekend so you can conduct your experiments/comparisons. If you get the chance, please post some pics.
post #227 of 3769
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Originally Posted by Garman View Post

milit/Joeseph Clark: Well I did a extensive screen test last night, if you could call it that with the limited about of material they give you Stewart was very kind and sent me 5 different pieces of screen material. Studiotek 130, Ultramatte 130,150, 200 and Firekhawk SST and then I had a couple from DA-LITE and the Vutec SS.. I must say which I found odd, is that all the pieces from Stewart didn't seem to make any improvements to the picture at all, in fact the Studiotek 130 and my current Vutec where so close I could not tell the difference. The brightest of course was the VuTec SS and a very very close second was the DA-LITE HP, it was a toss up between these two, but the DA-Lite HP won me over because it did not have that sheen on bright sceens in movies and pictures, used Blu-Ray as source material and some high-Res pictures.. So it looks like I will be going the HP route with a thicker boarder....

Hi garman, it's reassuring to hear that the HP performed so well as I should be receiving mine in about a week or so. I just can't wait.
post #228 of 3769
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Originally Posted by romanesq View Post

Just got the HP and replaced a similar sized 106" Optoma Graywolf mated with the Sony Pearl.
The HP is just an impressive screen. The smoothness and corner to corner consistency is just amazing.

All the chatter about the cone has been interesting but the Graywolf actually showed more change in moving around than the HP based on my room setup: 30 feet long by 11 feet wide. Obviously my room is just about perfect for the HP due to its narrow width but thus far all I can say is there is no hype to the value and performance of Da-lite's HP.

It's that good.

Interesting that your room size is just about the same as mine. From your comments, I am even more excited about getting my HP.
post #229 of 3769
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Originally Posted by milit View Post

Joseph Clark, I hope you get your screen by the weekend so you can conduct your experiments/comparisons. If you get the chance, please post some pics.

I'll try to get hold of a digital camera. Mine is on the fritz right now.
post #230 of 3769
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Originally Posted by milit View Post

Interesting that your room size is just about the same as mine. From your comments, I am even more excited about getting my HP.

You have absolutely nothing to be concerned about then. Of the few screens I've used, the HP is absolutely superb in its consistency across the board. And that's my most neutral endorsement.

I'm much more impressed with it.
post #231 of 3769
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Originally Posted by romanesq View Post

You have absolutely nothing to be concerned about then. Of the few screens I've used, the HP is absolutely superb in its consistency across the board. And that's my most neutral endorsement.

I'm much more impressed with it.

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #232 of 3769
milit: I will be ordering mine this week, I have a narrow room and I won't have the problem of it falling off viewing from the side. The only thing that concerns me, I have no keystoning yet but might have to with this next screen since it is larger and the PJ will have to be pointed down more now. Still the brightness is about double or more as is, just hope it doesn't drop off too much because I have to change the degree of viewing,
post #233 of 3769
I am considering the HP with an RS1 ceiling mounted (not ideal, I know) in a non-dedicated room with white cielings. Any thoughts and to advantages/disadvantages as to how the HP will be affected by the reflections off of the cieling. I am assuming that the HP will be better at rejecting this stray light but would just like someone to confirm.

Thanks
post #234 of 3769
spann-man: Depending on your environment the HP will be a good fit with the RS-1, that being said the Sony and RS-1 have low lumens so one would think these types of screens could only help. If I didn't have such bad luck with JVC products in the past, I might have boughten the RS-1... The SS would also work well even in ambient light, some one posted some good pics of light changes and what the SS looks like and it did a great job, the only problem I have with the SS screen is you need to be sitting back about 20 feet otherwise you see the sheen affect is what I call it in the screen. Good luck.........
post #235 of 3769
Thread Starter 
It will do the best of reflecting ceiling reflections. After you get it and fall in love with it. Then paint the room a little darker. You'll add $10,000 to the performance of your system.

Make sure you mount the projector as far back as you can and as low as you can
post #236 of 3769
Welcome back, Tryg. There's been a lot of activity here since you ducked into CES.
post #237 of 3769
Tryg,

I assume you meant to say it would do the best job of "rejecting" ceiling reflections. I will probably have about a 15 degree veiwing angle with the projector depending upon the mount which should give me a little gain at worst. Another reason I am looking at the HP is its ability to resist waves in the screen.

I know this is off topic but is there a ceiling mount that would work with the RS-1 that would allow it to rotate or telescope down a few feet during operation and be raised back up for storage? It would have to be sturdy and lock into the same position each time. This might be an option to get the most out of the HP.

Thanks
post #238 of 3769
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Originally Posted by spann-man View Post

... I know this is off topic but is there a ceiling mount that would work with the RS-1 that would allow it to rotate or telescope down a few feet during operation and be raised back up for storage? ...

You might want to investigate Draper scissor lifts. I used a SL8 with my G90. Now Draper makes less expensive models that work with lighter projectors. AVS is a Draper dealer.
post #239 of 3769
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Originally Posted by spann-man View Post

Tryg,

I assume you meant to say it would do the best job of "rejecting" ceiling reflections. I will probably have about a 15 degree veiwing angle with the projector depending upon the mount which should give me a little gain at worst. Another reason I am looking at the HP is its ability to resist waves in the screen.

I know this is off topic but is there a ceiling mount that would work with the RS-1 that would allow it to rotate or telescope down a few feet during operation and be raised back up for storage? It would have to be sturdy and lock into the same position each time. This might be an option to get the most out of the HP.

Thanks

Or check out Chiefmfg.com. Someone provided me with the link and I found just what I was looking for there. Be aware that they have two basic series of mounts - CMA and CMS. The CMA series is more basic, but the CMS uses what they call Speed-Connect, which allows for quicker changes. That's what I ordered. It should be here next week.
post #240 of 3769
I lost about 5 pounds tonight getting the High Power screen attached to a Cinema Contour frame. I have to say that the fit and finish of the Firehawk is much better than the High Power. Holes don't quite line up exactly, and following the directions for mounting the screen to the frame left me huffing and puffing, not to mention dripping sweat all over the thing.

The first snaps go on pretty easily, but according to the instructions you're supposed to attach all the snaps while the screen and the frame are on a clean surface. I prepared the floor and tried to do as the instructions indicated. Half an hour later, with only about a third of the snaps in place, I gave up and leaned the frame and screen carefully against the the wall, with the snaps already attached along the top and the the black screen surface facing out. Getting the remainder of the snaps to fit was pretty easy after that. I might have had a stroke if I'd continued to try to do it the way the instructions indicated.

After all that, I didn't have time to mount it on the wall. That's tomorrow, if we don't lose our power here in St. Louis with the ice storm moving in.
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