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post #901 of 8247
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Originally Posted by pete4 View Post

Please, please, please tell me more, what codec do you need for MPC to play HD-DVD? I only get sound and there is no way I'm loading this bloated garbage Cyberlink or WinDVD, at close to 100MB that software will never work correctly no matter what. MPC is wonderful and this is the first time ever that it won't play video file.

It a very involving process. You have to demux the .evo files. Head over to doom9.org, all the info is there.

BD is different, the .m2ts files play back perfectly in MPC and VLC, without needing to do anything else. Getting screenshots of those are very easy.
post #902 of 8247
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Originally Posted by LordFebo View Post

I admit I haven't read all thirty pages, but at begining someone was asking if HDCP-compliant hardware is needed in order to play HD-movies, and another someone answered that this is the case with most commercial releases.

This would be true if a protocol called Image Constraint Token (ICT) would be triggered by a flag on a disc. However, although the specs of both new formats include this options, the majority of released movies (if not all of them) have this flag deactivated, thus their HD-content will remain unchanged if using not-HDCP hardware, especially on a PC. (After all, xbox 360 HD DVD unit is ment only for watching movies, but xbox 360 has only a component (not-HDCP) cable for the time beeing.) It is said that ICT will be used in the next decade. But nevertheless, it is worth checking the HD DVD box, because movies are required to disclose if they trigger this protocol.

This is the case in theory, but in practice WinDVD and PowerDVD software have required HDCP-capable graphics systems in order to play AACS-protected movies, regardless of whether ICT or DOT are set.
post #903 of 8247
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

It a very involving process. You have to demux the .evo files. Head over to doom9.org, all the info is there.

BD is different, the .m2ts files play back perfectly in MPC and VLC, without needing to do anything else. Getting screenshots of those are very easy.

Thank you very much, don't know how I missed it, I guess it's just too much reading all at once.
post #904 of 8247
Can somebody help please?

I'm trying to get Powerdvd to work with a rip (to beat HDCP using DVI out), and the best I can get is a black screen, with very occasional sound snippets. Most of the time it just freezes. Powerdvd is really sluggish, even though CPU is at ~30%.

The HD advisor gives me grey for the video card, a 6800GT.
And RED for my display drivers. I've tried the recommended 93.71 drivers, now running 97.92 using modified .inf file...still red.

I have a Dual Core Opteron 165 at 2.8ghz, so that should be enough. I'm building up a PC to be fast enough to play HD-DVD, so the 6800GT is borrowed and will be replaced by an ATi card (so I can run VRM9 without tearing). But I should get an image at least..

XP SP2. AMD dual core driver loaded.

Tried DVI to HDCP display (although card is not HDCP) and VGA out to CRT monitor. Turned off dual displays..ran just the VGA monitor...frigged around...nup

Any idea why the HD advisor is giving me red for the correct display drivers?


thanks

Mark
post #905 of 8247
anydvd hd negates hdcp playback enjoy hd-dvd playback from 360hd drive through non compliant monitor and pj through dvi perfect
post #906 of 8247
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_A_W View Post

Can somebody help please?

I'm trying to get Powerdvd to work with a rip (to beat HDCP using DVI out), and the best I can get is a black screen, with very occasional sound snippets. Most of the time it just freezes. Powerdvd is really sluggish, even though CPU is at ~30%.

The HD advisor gives me grey for the video card, a 6800GT.
And RED for my display drivers. I've tried the recommended 93.71 drivers, now running 97.92 using modified .inf file...still red.

I have a Dual Core Opteron 165 at 2.8ghz, so that should be enough. I'm building up a PC to be fast enough to play HD-DVD, so the 6800GT is borrowed and will be replaced by an ATi card (so I can run VRM9 without tearing). But I should get an image at least..

XP SP2. AMD dual core driver loaded.

Tried DVI to HDCP display (although card is not HDCP) and VGA out to CRT monitor. Turned off dual displays..ran just the VGA monitor...frigged around...nup

Any idea why the HD advisor is giving me red for the correct display drivers?


thanks

Mark

Mark,
I could be wrong but I didn't think the 6800 card would work for HD DVD??

Terry
post #907 of 8247
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_A_W View Post

Can somebody help please?

I'm trying to get Powerdvd to work with a rip (to beat HDCP using DVI out), and the best I can get is a black screen, with very occasional sound snippets. Most of the time it just freezes. Powerdvd is really sluggish, even though CPU is at ~30%.

The HD advisor gives me grey for the video card, a 6800GT.
And RED for my display drivers. I've tried the recommended 93.71 drivers, now running 97.92 using modified .inf file...still red.

I have a Dual Core Opteron 165 at 2.8ghz, so that should be enough. I'm building up a PC to be fast enough to play HD-DVD, so the 6800GT is borrowed and will be replaced by an ATi card (so I can run VRM9 without tearing). But I should get an image at least..

XP SP2. AMD dual core driver loaded.

Tried DVI to HDCP display (although card is not HDCP) and VGA out to CRT monitor. Turned off dual displays..ran just the VGA monitor...frigged around...nup

Any idea why the HD advisor is giving me red for the correct display drivers?


thanks

Mark

how did you rip it? make sure u have the right keys etc...but neway i believe if you ripped it correctly, you need to edit the .xpl file to be able to play it stutter free.....doom9 forum has more info on that for you: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...276#post939276
post #908 of 8247
Anyone got any further information/help with why WB HD-DVDs have problems running movies with my S/PDif enabled on my Realtek card? I have to switch to stereo to have smooth playback currently. If I run SP/Dif, I get stuttery playback, JUST in the WB movies (Batman Begins, V for Vendetta etc..)

Thanks in advance.

System is a Shuttle SN27P2.
post #909 of 8247
Someone on another thread mentioned that newer drivers from Realtek's site helped. At least, that's what I got out of "so far, so good".
post #910 of 8247
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Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post

Anyone got any further information/help with why WB HD-DVDs have problems running movies with my S/PDif enabled on my Realtek card? I have to switch to stereo to have smooth playback currently. If I run SP/Dif, I get stuttery playback, JUST in the WB movies (Batman Begins, V for Vendetta etc..)

Thanks in advance.

System is a Shuttle SN27P2.

It's not only Warner movies. All tracks with DD+ 640 and 768 kbps have this problem. Using the German DD+ track of Tokyo Drift (768 kbps) I also get stutters, English plays fine.
post #911 of 8247
I am looking to upgrade to a Geforce 8800. Are there any advantages to going for an overclocked card?

Any advantages for 1080P with 640MB for HD playback, I do not care about games?

Thanks,

Rich
post #912 of 8247
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I am looking to upgrade to a Geforce 8800. Are there any advantages to going for an overclocked card?

Any advantages for 1080P with 640MB for HD playback, I do not care about games?

Thanks,

Rich

I'm using an 8800GTS and at stock speeds it has more than enough power to drive 1080P and HD playback. Since you don't game an 8800GTX wouldn't really get you anything over the GTS. Even the new 320MB 8800 would probably be more than adequate for your needs.
post #913 of 8247
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Originally Posted by Mark_A_W View Post

Can somebody help please?

I'm trying to get Powerdvd to work with a rip (to beat HDCP using DVI out),


Powerdvd Ultra force HDCP on rip also. You need Powerdvd 6.5 HD DVD version.
post #914 of 8247
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Originally Posted by Micromain View Post

I'm using an 8800GTS and at stock speeds it has more than enough power to drive 1080P and HD playback. Since you don't game an 8800GTX wouldn't really get you anything over the GTS. Even the new 320MB 8800 would probably be more than adequate for your needs.

Thanks, I was definately going GTS. Now the last question 320 or 640MB?
PowerDVD says 256 or more. Decisions Decisions...

Thanks,

Rich

EDIT: I ordered the 640MB card which costs too much. Oh well.
post #915 of 8247
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Originally Posted by lymzy View Post

Powerdvd Ultra force HDCP on rip also. You need Powerdvd 6.5 HD DVD version.

Does PowerDVD 6.5 HD DVD version work with DVI/HDMI without HDCP, or only over VGA? And is there a difference between 6.5 and 7.2?

Thanks guys.
post #916 of 8247
Also, will this card do PCM audio?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127237

Want to order it if so..
post #917 of 8247
I don't know of any video cards today that do true PCM audio. There are a few that claim to, but really all they do is provide a connection to the SPDIF expansion connector on the mobo or sound card. This effectively means thet are limited to outputting either DD, DTS, or 2 channel PCM.

Not a solution in my book.....

Vern
post #918 of 8247
The Prolink 7315 apparently does, but you need to use G965 integrated graphics, Intel HD Audio, and some not terribly intuitive (and buggy) software. And so far no one knows if it will pass Blu-ray or HD DVD because it's not supported by PowerDVD.

There is no simple solution, currently.
post #919 of 8247
does anyone know why i play a hd-dvd it is pip and not single screen with timeline or something else?
post #920 of 8247
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Originally Posted by Vern Dias View Post

I don't know of any video cards today that do true PCM audio. There are a few that claim to, but really all they do is provide a connection to the SPDIF expansion connector on the mobo or sound card. This effectively means thet are limited to outputting either DD, DTS, or 2 channel PCM.

Not a solution in my book.....

Vern

I will be installing my BD drive soon. So I guess I am limited to analog outs on the MB or SPDIF? Analog out is not an option since that is used for my HD DVD player already. So when you play a BD, do you use its DD or DTS sound track or does PowerDVD down-convert the PCM to DD or DTS? With DTS you could use a higher bit rate.

- Rich
post #921 of 8247
http://www.geardigest.com/2007/02/21...ide/index.html

"There's something of a battle underway right now between two different blue-violet laser-based high definition DVD formats: HD-DVD and Blu-ray. Despite that, we believe there's enough good gear of great interest on both sides of this hot contest to warrant a buyer's guide for equipment using both standards. In this article we will take a look at two kinds of equipment offerings that involve HD-DVD technology: standalone HD-DVD players; and PC-oriented HD-DVD players and burners (some internal, others external)."
post #922 of 8247
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I will be installing my BD drive soon. So I guess I am limited to analog outs on the MB or SPDIF? Analog out is not an option since that is used for my HD DVD player already. So when you play a BD, do you use its DD or DTS sound track or does PowerDVD down-convert the PCM to DD or DTS? With DTS you could use a higher bit rate.

- Rich

PCM and the lossless compressions DTS-MA are so much better on blu-ray than the using the backup DD, DTS tracks I would simply take the few seconds to switch the connectors from standalone HD DVD drive to the PC playing blu-ray.
post #923 of 8247
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

It a very involving process. You have to demux the .evo files. Head over to doom9.org, all the info is there.

BD is different, the .m2ts files play back perfectly in MPC and VLC, without needing to do anything else. Getting screenshots of those are very easy.

After reading Doom9, installing multiple players, codecs I still can't get screencaps from FEATURE_1.EVO files. Even after demuxing them using EVOdemux I only get blank video.
post #924 of 8247
what is the hotkey for hd-dvd?

i was wondering why when i play the hd-dvd it only comes out left and right speaker and not 5.1 speaker.?

please help me.
post #925 of 8247
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Originally Posted by Xylon View Post

After reading Doom9, installing multiple players, codecs I still can't get screencaps from FEATURE_1.EVO files. Even after demuxing them using EVOdemux I only get blank video.

here you go

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=809002

Dont have BR to try but the prog only caps the screen so in theory it should work with any app.
post #926 of 8247
what is the latest verison for nvidia video card?

the hd-dvd advisor always tell me that it is outdated? i got 93.71 driver.
post #927 of 8247
Last night I purchased PDVD7 Ultra. I am running a clean install of Vista Ultimate 32bit. Video card is a 7800GT 256mb, it is not HDCP compliant to my knowledge, has 2 DVI outs. I put a DVI-VGA adapter on, and VGA cable to my monitor. Figured this would force an "analog" playback stream. Bluray drive is the Sony, updated to 1.0c firmware. I did not use the Sony CD at all, just plugged in the drive and let Vista install it.

So I get PDVD7U installed (the Bluray version) and start it up. Press play and it just sits there forever. Does nothing. I didnt have much time to check, but I know I am not running the nVidia 100.xx drivers, but didnt think this was required because the Cyberlink advisor gave me a green light on the driver (or at least I thought it did).

What else could it be? When I try to kill the PDVD7 program after it sits there for 10+ minutes, it takes another 10-15 minutes to kill the program. Very frustrating, but I'm guessing I missed something very obvious in the setup.
post #928 of 8247
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Originally Posted by Kirby Baker View Post

What else could it be? When I try to kill the PDVD7 program after it sits there for 10+ minutes, it takes another 10-15 minutes to kill the program. Very frustrating, but I'm guessing I missed something very obvious in the setup.

What CPU are you running?

Check your CPU usage. Try to play a regular DVD if you can. Does it play ok?

My guess is that it's due to Vista and/or nVidia driver. That's why I stuck with Xp and it works flawlessly.
post #929 of 8247
AMD X2-3800+ running at stock speed, but if needed I can bump it up to 2.6ghz easy enough.

I didnt try a standard DVD, I will tonight. CPU was flat at about 8% though.

I will also grab the latest nVidia driver tonight and see how that does.

A question on the DVI to VGA adapters. Are they all identical? I have about 20 of them it seems, and I dont know if some are card specific. I wouldnt imagine these being an issue, but who knows...
post #930 of 8247
I have a feeling that a standard DVD will play just fine. I had a problem with an older AMD CPU and nVidia 6800GT. The driver was part of the issue. It went from playing nothing to at least playing audio by changing the video driver. My CPU/Gfx card could not handle HD/BR which is why there wasn't video with the audio.

So I upgraded to a Core 2 Duo 6700 and a nVidia 8800GTS and it works perfectly with the right video driver. This is where the VISTA thing comes in since you won't be able to use the Xp driver (at least I believe that is the case).
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