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post #31 of 72
12/30/06 at 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by oneobgyn View Post

Actually rumor is that Vladimir Lamm will be show casing his much awaited ML 3.0 mono amp which is his new SET rated at 30 wpc and has an MSRP of $135K.

Apparently each channel has a separate stand alone power supply---ie 4 boxes in all

He has been working on it for years. Was to have been released last year

And this is no joke

it will be a killer tube amp for those who want to sell their Wavac amps


Yes, great to pay 135K for something that color the sound and you could build as good or better for 1000th of that price. A real "deal" there
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post #32 of 72
12/31/06 at 5:27am
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I will shortly have some pics of the amps I discussed above, as the four prototypes are just being finished.

Meanwhile, I understand this exhibitor is sharing a two room suite with
a speaker company which got real nice reviews at last years show and I've
enclosed a photo of those speakers - they look like something out of the Battlestar Galactica tv show.
LL
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post #33 of 72
12/31/06 at 8:50am
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Yes, great to pay 135K for something that color the sound and you could build as good or better for 1000th of that price. A real "deal" there

I'm interested in your post because at the bottom of which there is indication that you use a tube amp. I guess that that was the real deal
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post #34 of 72
12/31/06 at 8:56am
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"Yes, great to pay 135K for something that color the sound and you could build as good or better for 1000th of that price. A real "deal" there

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Yea, Nin74, given your above post and signature, please tell us about your tube amp.
Do you have any beef with the $135K tube amp other than its price???
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post #35 of 72
12/31/06 at 9:00am
Steve

will you be at CES?
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post #36 of 72
12/31/06 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by oneobgyn View Post

Steve

will you be at CES?

Sorry, after coming five years in a row (and starting the AVS CES parties back in my moderating days, when I gave away more than $10,000 product gifts from manufacturers/retailers at the first two parties), I've missed the past two and now will be three. Just busy in my law practice and with family stuff. Hopefully will be able to come the next year.
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post #37 of 72
12/31/06 at 9:53am
unfortunately I won't be going this year either

trying to wrap up my OBG practice and devote my time to retirement and the new Medspa that I opened.
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post #38 of 72
12/31/06 at 9:58am
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

More re the new tube mono amp - its real and will be at CES:

Features of the new tube amps.

1. Monoblock design.
2. Completely separate isolated power supply for the power output stage and driver stage. Even has 2 power cords.
3. Modular design. Completely change the circuit topology and tubes being used by plugging in different modules.
Power output module can be push-pull 300B at 45 watts, push pull 6550 at 100 watts, push pull EL34 at 50 watts, etc.
Different driver and rectifier modules available.
Each module is individually 100% EMI/RFI shielded.
With all the different available modules this is 30 amps in one.
4. Modules simply plug in. Once the new module is plugged in, everything is automatic. No need to re-bias tubes or click any switches or anything. The modules are as easy to change as plugging a desk lamp into a different outlet.
5. No capacitors in the signal path. Interstage coupling is done with transformers.
6. Both power supplies have massive choke filtering.
7. The B+ supply module can be solid state or tube rectification.
8. The monoblocks are all made in North America with all parts, labor, and materials from North America.
9. Tube sockets are milled Teflon with gold pins.
10. Chassis sides are made of 2" x 6" aluminum. Bottom is 1/4" thick aluminum.
11. Sides and top are 1/2" thick granite.

The "granite" is a granite like material but one which sounds fantastic as used in audio components.

Interesting. An awful lot of these features are available on the recent crop of high-end guitar amps. Of course, the design goals for a guitar amp are rather different, and the price point is about an order of magnitude lower.....
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post #39 of 72
12/31/06 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by MauneyM View Post

Interesting. An awful lot of these features are available on the recent crop of high-end guitar amps. Of course, the design goals for a guitar amp are rather different, and the price point is about an order of magnitude lower.....

My understanding is that each of these mono tube amps will have 12 tubes, and that the tubes retail at $800 each. OUCH!!!

Sounds like something OB would have bought, but now that he's retiring from
OB-GYN practice he's gonna have ta hold the line on something.
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post #40 of 72
12/31/06 at 1:29pm
Don't tell me... It's made in Arizona!

Interesting product portfolio. I don't expect them to sell very many though. It's just too over the top for most people with these budgets.
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post #41 of 72
12/31/06 at 2:39pm
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Sounds like something OB would have bought, but now that he's retiring from

you've got that right Steve
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post #42 of 72
12/31/06 at 3:39pm
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Don't tell me... It's made in Arizona!

Interesting product portfolio. I don't expect them to sell very many though. It's just too over the top for most people with these budgets.

A lot of good products are made here in Arizona!!!

Yes, that tube mono amp is definitely over the top, a statement product for the conneseur (how do you spell that) of the best. HA!
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post #43 of 72
12/31/06 at 10:03pm
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Here's some show reports on the Style-Lust speakers mentioned above:

http://shows.soundstagelive.com/show...dout_vac.shtml


http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue17/ces05dc9.htm
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post #44 of 72
1/1/07 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by MauneyM View Post

Of course, the design goals for a guitar amp are rather different, and the price point is about an order of magnitude lower.....

Flavor to taste? Seems like the same goal to me
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post #45 of 72
1/1/07 at 11:28am
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Flavor to taste? Seems like the same goal to me



Well John...some of us drink Pellegrino whereas others such as you prefer sewer water.
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post #46 of 72
1/2/07 at 5:21am
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Here's a sneak peak of the - - - - Granite Audio new tube mono amplifier:
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post #47 of 72
1/2/07 at 6:16am
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

Here's a sneak peak of the - - - - Granite Audio new tube mono amplifier:


Interesting and versatile..... between listenings it looks like it would make a wonderful chopping block.
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post #48 of 72
1/2/07 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by oneobgyn View Post

Well John...some of us drink Pellegrino whereas others such as you prefer sewer water.

Gee, that's kind of harsh.
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post #49 of 72
1/2/07 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by oneobgyn View Post

Well John...some of us drink Pellegrino.

Ahh, the great taste of marketing
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post #50 of 72
1/2/07 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by Alimentall View Post

Ahh, the great taste of marketing

Ahhh yes, even double blind tests would guaranty that those with discerning tastes would pick Pellegrino over sewer water.
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post #51 of 72
1/2/07 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by oneobgyn View Post

I'm interested in your post because at the bottom of which there is indication that you use a tube amp. I guess that that was the real deal


No, my tube amp also color the sound and I understand that, that all tube amps do that. And you don't need to pay 135K for something like that.
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post #52 of 72
1/3/07 at 7:18am
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

Here's a sneak peak of the - - - - Granite Audio new tube mono amplifier:

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Judging from the quality of the pictures, we've found the mystery phorographer of the Hussein hanging... Steve, there's a gov't somewhere overseas that want to ask you a few questions....
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post #53 of 72
1/3/07 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by NIN74 View Post

No, my tube amp also color the sound and I understand that, that all tube amps do that. And you don't need to pay 135K for something like that.

But, NIN, the more expensive the euphony, the better it is! And, "warm, lush, liquid" at $2000 just doesn't cut it, you need $30,000 worth of "warm, lush, liquid" if you're going to enjoy music
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post #54 of 72
1/3/07 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by oneobgyn View Post

Ahhh yes, even double blind tests would guaranty that those with discerning tastes would pick Pellegrino over sewer water.

Actually, you might try googling "bottled water" and "taste test" and just see how well "sewer water" fares.
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post #55 of 72
1/3/07 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by Alimentall View Post

Actually, you might try googling "bottled water" and "taste test" and just see how well "sewer water" fares.

This is one DBT that even I could pass John

Now you on the other hand???
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post #56 of 72
1/3/07 at 11:42am
mmmmmmmmmm....... Sewer water!

Don't they say that one mans sewer water is another mans Dom?
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post #57 of 72
1/3/07 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by Alimentall View Post

Actually, you might try googling "bottled water" and "taste test" and just see how well "sewer water" fares.


I actually remember that test. That was the one where Evian(Naive spelled backwards) was found to taste worse than NY City tap water overwhelmingly by blinded taste tests.
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post #58 of 72
1/3/07 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by oneobgyn View Post

This is one DBT that even I could pass John

Are you sure? Actual experts seem to not fare so well:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=778902003

I'll say it again....."Ah, the great taste of marketing"
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post #59 of 72
1/3/07 at 12:59pm
Being an outsider to the whole nose bleed high end, it strikes me as strange that something not yet built is deemed to be a "killer" because someone's life long experience was used in designing and building it.

The makers of the Titanic felt the same way I am sure.
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post #60 of 72
1/3/07 at 10:20pm
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Originally Posted by Curt Palme View Post

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Judging from the quality of the pictures, we've found the mystery phorographer of the Hussein hanging... Steve, there's a gov't somewhere overseas that want to ask you a few questions....

Funny dude. I projected the photo with one of your refurbished CRT projectors and did the best I could. What did you expect? And I didn't use any power conditioning or tweaks. See the result? HAAAA!

Seriously. To get the website to upload the image, I had to downrez it and I'm likely not very good at that.

Curt, if you are going to CES, go to the Granite Audio room, at The Show
(not CES), which is in the hallway off the lobby of the St. Tropez Hotel

http://www.theshowlasvegas.com/main/index.php
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