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post #31 of 46
1/9/07 at 1:01pm
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Ground loops do not affect digital video. Power conditioners will do nothing for digital video.

Chances are that the noise is just an artifact of your TV (edge enhancement, sharpness that you can't turn off, etc...) or a bad transfer of the film to BD.

Well there is a circuit city 5 miles from my house so i am going to buy a nice monster power conditioner just to try. Alot of reviews on that product said it has helped with digital audio and video. What i'll do is if I notice a difference in video, i'll post a before and after pic. Nonetheless, i'll report any significant findings here.
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post #32 of 46
1/9/07 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by donricouga View Post

Well there is a circuit city 5 miles from my house so i am going to buy a nice monster power conditioner just to try. Alot of reviews on that product said it has helped with digital audio and video. What i'll do is if I notice a difference in video, i'll post a before and after pic. Nonetheless, i'll report any significant findings here.

I doubt this is the answer. If it was, you'd have the same video noise in all of your movies. There would be no variation.

Do you know someone else with a PS3 you can compare playback with?

I still have this problem as well.
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post #33 of 46
1/9/07 at 1:41pm
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I doubt this is the answer. If it was, you'd have the same video noise in all of your movies. There would be no variation.

Do you know someone else with a PS3 you can compare playback with?

I still have this problem as well.

Well I do have that noise in all my movies. Even in Ice Age 2 i see that mosquito like noise in the Ice and even in Kingdom of Heaven. But like i said, i'll try the power conditioner later tonight and see what happens. I can always return it if it doesn't help.
By they way, I'm also in Atlanta (midtown).
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post #34 of 46
1/16/07 at 6:36pm
The blueray video noise in the PS3 also exist in sonys dedicated blueray player. I have looked at the PS3 on a sony 1080p LCD and a sony SXRD in my home and they both have allot on video noise. I have watched about 10 different movies and they all have the video noise. I watched a sony xbr 1080p lcd in BB being fed by sonys dedicated blueray disk player and it had the video noise. I looked a sonys sxrd in tweeter being fed by sonys dedicated blueray player and it had the video noise. Up to this point i was thinking that it must have something to due with the encoding of blueray movies right now.

Today i was in BB and took a look at a samsung plasma being fed by a samsung blueray player and it had zero video noise. It was playing samsungs blueray demo disk. I am going to go back later this week and play one of the movies that i have seen video noise on to see if it exist on the samsung player. It looking like this may be a problem with the sony blueray player.

I can tell you guys one thing for sure and that is it has nothing to due with cables or AC line noise. On a side note i did a comparison between time warner cables free component video cables and monsters $150 top of the line cable sold at BB and there was no visible difference between these cables at all. I had two denon upconverting DVD players of the exact same model which was used for the test. I spent a few hours switching back and fourth and me and my girlfriend could not find any differences. Both dvd players were calibrated before testing.
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post #35 of 46
1/17/07 at 7:38am
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well after I ended up buying that Monster Power Conditioner and I really like it. Its worth the $750,000 protection itself. It helped sliughtly on the video, and my sound system is too crappy at this point to tell a difference. But I also bought Crank and The Wild and the picture for both of those are so nice. I didn't see any artifacts or noise in Crank and looked really good. I think it looks a tad better than KOH. So now i'm happy that its nothing to do with the PS3, my TV Calibration, or the cables.
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post #36 of 46
9/12/07 at 7:42am
I'm with all of you guys right now with video noise.

I have a Samsung HL-T5687S DLP LED, PS3 hooked up with Monster Cable Precision 800 HDMI, and a MKS 2000 III Power Conditioner. Still ALOT of nosie on Mission Impossible 3. And it's my first Blu Ray movie i've ever watched with the tv set, with my Ps3 all together.

Granted, as you turn down the sharpness and turn the screen color down, it eliminates a little, but it's still there.

Maybe we're expecting too much out of all of this? All I know is I've watched LCD's that look way cleaner. But who knows anymore??
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post #37 of 46
9/12/07 at 9:37am
I think you're seeing a combination display calibration, SSE, and noise that is present in the original source transfer.
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post #38 of 46
9/12/07 at 9:45am
SSE? How can I help minimize that original noise? I've seen better blu ray examples before on other tv's with other players.
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post #39 of 46
9/12/07 at 9:51am
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SSE? How can I help minimize that original noise? I've seen better blu ray examples before on other tv's with other players.

a professional display calibration can really wake up your set, as it did mine

EDIT:ya ive got an a2000 also and even before the calibration everything looked superb, but the cal really made it shine
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post #40 of 46
9/12/07 at 10:12am
Well, just as an FYI, I have watched a bunch of Blu-Rays with the PS3 connected to a Sony A2000 (via HDMI) and don't see any video noise. I'm pretty picky so if there was something there I probably would have noticed it.

With the brightness adjusted properly, even SSE is minimal, so I get a pretty nice picture. Not much to complain about.
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post #41 of 46
9/12/07 at 1:32pm
Don't know if this will help but when I first got my PS3 I witnessed alot of noise, grain, etc while watching BD movies, playing games, and even browsing through the XMB. I didn't complain much and just accepted it. Then one day while browsing through this forum I read about viewing distances and how important they are when watching HD. So I changed my room around and positioned my TV farther away from me (basically to the optimal viewing distance for my TV size) and it made a BIG BIG difference. Not just in games alone but HD programming on Comcast was improved. Try it my friend and let me know if it helps
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post #42 of 46
9/12/07 at 4:28pm
This is not the PS3 or your display. It is the source. I have recently upgraded my tv to a Sony KDS 60A3000. I see noise and grain on HD channels through my FIOS cable, even Apocalypto BD has the mosquito noise/grain/artifacts. I NEVER see this on PS3 games or 1080p video clips. I am convinced now more than ever that although our microdisplays may exaggerate or exacerbate these "noise" issues, it is really the source material that is compressed or poor filming methods(lighting/focus, etc. that is the culprit.

I don't have a way to do screen captures, but I can give you an example. I was watching American Chopper in 1080i on Discovery HD. Most of the show looks excellent, but there were a few times that the camera did what my digital still camera does. When the light or focus isn't correct, the picture will come out grainy and full of noise. I saw this same affect on American Chopper last night in one scene. If you ever watch the show, it is the one where Mike and Vince go on a scooter trip to New England for lobsters. There is one scene where Mike is talking about the trip and he is outside in poor light conditions, and he is wearing a black tee shirt. It is the camera's focus and filming method use that lent itself to that grain and not my tv nor even compression.

Again, comparing clips and games where this is no compression or light/focus issues of the HD camera on my display, to where there is with HD channels, even with the most pristine BDs and it tells me the display is not the culprit.
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post #43 of 46
9/12/07 at 8:43pm
So we were talking at work regarding my noise issues with the PS3.

These are the logics we came up with:

1) It can't be the wiring. But it could be EMI?
I have my surround sound speakers almost directly next to the tv. They have pretty strong magnets, and with the HL-T5687S having outputs on directly the one side of the tv, that could be a possibility? Granted, the Monster Ultra 800 cables are supposed to reject interference, but you never know I guess? I considered upgrading to Monster M1100 series HDMI's but didn't want to shell out $219/per HDMI cable.

2) It can't be the TV, PS3 games and HD TV look great!
I was really starting to think the tv was the culprit but as luck has it, I spoke with a DLP Rep for Texas Instruments who specialized in the LED DLP's by Samsung and said there should be no motion blur or noise when watching the BD movies. Now granted, that's his job. But having had zero experience with any other BD movies yet, i'm going to watch a couple different movies and see how I feel, as well as rent another copy of MI:3 and see if the noise is still evident.

3) It could possibly be the PS3 BD player.
From what I hear, the BD player in the PS3 is not impressive among others. From what I've also been told, noise is evident from the source not getting or giving a strong signal/connection. I've tried different HDMI's and in different inputs on the tv and still had the same results. This is my 2nd PS3 i've exchanged (first one lost all video output). I may copy all my game saves to a flash drive and exchange the PS3 (But not before I receive my 5 free blu ray's).

As it stands, i'm going to test some more BD movies and play with the settings some more. Could possibly turn off all the extra's on the tv set and PS3 as well and start clean from the start. I'm confident I can adjust the settings to achieve a proper picture. Just gonna have to give it a try. I can't justify getting a different TV because for the price, it's a great tv with awesome size. No reason to down grade by getting a 60hz LCD in a smaller size for the same price. Go DLP!!!
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post #44 of 46
9/12/07 at 8:56pm
I would suggest trying the Pirates of the Caribbean movies..they are top notch. And if they are not your bag..Try Casino Royale..it is also very good.
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post #45 of 46
9/13/07 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by Silver Ecstasy View Post

So we were talking at work regarding my noise issues with the PS3.

These are the logics we came up with:

1) It can't be the wiring. But it could be EMI?
I have my surround sound speakers almost directly next to the tv. They have pretty strong magnets, and with the HL-T5687S having outputs on directly the one side of the tv, that could be a possibility? Granted, the Monster Ultra 800 cables are supposed to reject interference, but you never know I guess? I considered upgrading to Monster M1100 series HDMI's but didn't want to shell out $219/per HDMI cable. How about other sources of EMI?

2) It can't be the TV, PS3 games and HD TV look great!
I was really starting to think the tv was the culprit but as luck has it, I spoke with a DLP Rep for Texas Instruments who specialized in the LED DLP's by Samsung and said there should be no motion blur or noise when watching the BD movies. Now granted, that's his job. But having had zero experience with any other BD movies yet, i'm going to watch a couple different movies and see how I feel, as well as rent another copy of MI:3 and see if the noise is still evident.

3) It could possibly be the PS3 BD player.
From what I hear, the BD player in the PS3 is not impressive among others. From what I've also been told, noise is evident from the source not getting or giving a strong signal/connection. I've tried different HDMI's and in different inputs on the tv and still had the same results. This is my 2nd PS3 i've exchanged (first one lost all video output). I may copy all my game saves to a flash drive and exchange the PS3 (But not before I receive my 5 free blu ray's).

As it stands, i'm going to test some more BD movies and play with the settings some more. Could possibly turn off all the extra's on the tv set and PS3 as well and start clean from the start. I'm confident I can adjust the settings to achieve a proper picture. Just gonna have to give it a try. I can't justify getting a different TV because for the price, it's a great tv with awesome size. No reason to down grade by getting a 60hz LCD in a smaller size for the same price. Go DLP!!!

1. Magnets aren't going to affect these kinds of TVs. However, magnets and other electrical fields can generate noise on cables (but on HDMI that wouldn't cause your "noise", it would cause digital drop-outs). Even if you were seeing digital drop-outs, you could get very high quality cables without paying those kinds of prices.

2. Those sources are different. The HD TV source is 1080i and most PS3 games are sending 720p. The Blu-Ray playback is the only thing actually sending 1080p (and thus sending double the amount of data to the TV).

3. The PS3 is an excellent Blu-Ray player. It used to be bad at upscaling regular DVDs, but now it's pretty good at that too.

Is it possible there's actually something wrong with your TV's electronics when its receiving a true 1080p signal? As I mentioned above, there could also be some type of electrical interference that's affecting the TV. This kind of interference could come through the power line or be broadcast over the air. I've seen a VCR with a failing transformer mess up equipment that was 20 feet away (and the VCR still worked).
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post #46 of 46
9/13/07 at 10:22am
I could possibly have the Best Buy technician come out since I have a service plan, and see what's up? I am thinking I will call Samsung and see if they can e-mail me the newest firmware. I'm a firm believer in downloading updates. Unfortunately, I don't know what the new PS3 1.93 update just did for me. Either way, I feel this may help the cause. The TV sat at the store for a while until I picked it up. Maybe there's been some updates since then?
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