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post #361 of 603
2/22/07 at 1:48am
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

That would be really really really bad.

Yes, it would.

But honestly: Which copy protection has not been cracked yet? There simply is no unbreakable copy protection - because in the end someone somewhere somewhen has to be able to decrypt the data to make it visible on the display. The only really safe copy protection is to not make the content available at all. But that doesn't work out for the studios. After all they want money from us consumers. So they have no choice but to make their content available. And no matter what kind of copy protection they'll invent, it will probably be broken sooner or later. And I think in the end the studios know that. So I hope that these AACS cracks will not stop studios from releasing Blu-Ray and HD DVD movies...
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post #362 of 603
2/22/07 at 2:21am
I bet all Windows XP software players get zapped. Maybe software players allowed on Microsoft Vista. That would make the current crackers sad.

Pardon me if I would not shed many tears.
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post #363 of 603
2/22/07 at 2:22am
Its not the encrpyption that is compromised, its the software implentation.
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post #364 of 603
2/22/07 at 3:08am
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

Its not the encrpyption that is compromised, its the software implentation.

Right! There is still no way to burn the ripped files to a disc an play it on a standalone player...

... yet!
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post #365 of 603
2/22/07 at 3:35am
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Originally Posted by Grubert View Post

Note by the AACS LA on its website:



DVD file has posted an editorial filled with anger:

The HD Disc Hacks - A few depraved criminals risk spoiling it for us all

Wow, they even played the terrorist card.

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When any anarchist decides that the law does not apply to him and he does harm, he deserves to be apprehended, tried, and if found guilty, punished and fined. Such criminals threaten to destroy the home theater technical progress that can bring pleasure to millions. The mentality of such a sociopath is equivalent to those who release computer viruses and Trojan horses into the wild to wreak random havoc. They are anarchists intent on destruction. They are no better than terrorists.

That's getting sort of old these days.

- Tom
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post #366 of 603
2/22/07 at 5:35am
I sure hope that does not stop the flow of HD DVD or Blu-ray movies.
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post #367 of 603
2/27/07 at 11:50am
DMCA takedown notice for BackupHDDVD at Soundforge.net

And so the battle continues!
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post #368 of 603
2/28/07 at 9:26pm
WOW! That DVD File article is worth a read!

I haven't laughed that hard since I saw Borat. Talk about self-seving zealotry! I found it especially hilarious reading the utopian musings about banning ROM drives for PC's and such. And then the terrorist card.

There's no need to write an accompanying satire to that DVD File article. Its a 2-for-1 special!
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post #369 of 603
2/28/07 at 11:52pm
Oh my God!!!!! That DVD File article was the funniest thing I have read in ages!!! I really wonder whether the author honestly believes what he wrote, it was that far out there. He honestly sounds as rabid as the people who believe they have been abducted by aliens for the sole purpose of anal probing and experimentation . Thanks for an article that made me laugh so hard I woke my wife up
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post #370 of 603
3/4/07 at 10:47am
The DVDfile article is surely a subtle parody?

Someone located the Host Private Key for WinDVD and posted it on Doom9 this morning. This is the last item needed to roll your own homebrew player that can play any HD-DVD created before the point at which AACS-LA changes keys.
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post #371 of 603
3/4/07 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

I sure hope that does not stop the flow of HD DVD or Blu-ray movies.

That has been a real possibility since the first day the "hack" was announced -- nothing new there! Since then, it's just been a question of seeing what happens next. We've already seen a number of "delays" from studios since then, though we've no way of identifying/verifying the causes.
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post #372 of 603
3/4/07 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by analog8 View Post

The DVDfile article is surely a subtle parody?

Someone located the Host Private Key for WinDVD and posted it on Doom9 this morning. This is the last item needed to roll your own homebrew player that can play any HD-DVD created before the point at which AACS-LA changes keys.

And Bluray, but they'll just get it again now that they know how. It's over for AACS, and good riddance.
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post #373 of 603
3/4/07 at 5:35pm
Actually, it was PowerDVD's key that was exposed today.

Link

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post #374 of 603
3/5/07 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty View Post

And Bluray, but they'll just get it again now that they know how. It's over for AACS, and good riddance.

But if AACS revokes the keys for WinDVD and PowerDVD, and any other software players that work under XP/Vista 32-bit, how would they discover the new keys?
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post #375 of 603
3/5/07 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by pclausen View Post

But if AACS revokes the keys for WinDVD and PowerDVD, and any other software players that work under XP/Vista 32-bit, how would they discover the new keys?

Well, I think the Toshiba HD DVD players are running some kind of Linux. I'm sure with enough effort somebody somewhen will be able to read out the keys those players are using. I think the PS3 could also be a weak link in the picture which might be used sooner or later to retrieve some keys.
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post #376 of 603
3/5/07 at 8:32am
Just to let you know I am using an xbox 360 HD-DVD drive plugged into my PC.
The latest version of AnyDVD HD removes all protection from HD-DVD and supposedly everything but region coding from BluRay.

I can't work out how to do screen caps from a VC-1 stream, but the movie playing/ripping of the DRM is pretty much gone.
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post #377 of 603
3/5/07 at 8:50am
Seems AACS was broken with relative ease. It almost makes me wonder if this isn't a honey-pot of sorts. Get the unfinalized AACS authorized content out in the wild, see how they'll attack the scheme and then use that information to tighten the noose.
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post #378 of 603
3/5/07 at 8:58am
There is no way to tighten the noose. No matter what they put in place, it's going to be hacked. I'm not sure how many times this needs to happen before they figure it out.
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post #379 of 603
3/5/07 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by sarah99 View Post

The latest version of AnyDVD HD removes all protection from HD-DVD and supposedly everything but region coding from BluRay.

I'm curious to see whether that product becomes disabled with a new AACS disallowed key list.
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post #380 of 603
3/5/07 at 1:13pm
The latest - 6.1.2.9 - removes region coding as well.

Diogen.
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post #381 of 603
3/5/07 at 6:57pm
Its the MPAA's lawyers who will benefit most from this crack/revoke scenario that will probably resemble a scene from Groundhog Day. The consumers and the studios will both lose, and the rigidity of Hollywood will stop them from seeing the forest through the trees.

I can't say I'm overly worried, as most movies churned out these days are garbage, hi def or not. If Hollywood continues to center its 21st century business model on DRM, I suspect they'll atrophy over time.
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post #382 of 603
4/9/07 at 1:22pm
http://www.aacsla.com/home

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AACS LA Announces Security Updates
In response to attacks against certain PC-based applications for playing HD DVD and Blu-ray movie discs, Advanced Access Content System Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA) announces that it has taken action, in cooperation with relevant manufacturers, to expire the encryption keys associated with the specific implementations of AACS-enabled software.

Consumers can continue to enjoy content that is protected by the AACS technology by refreshing the encryption keys associated with their HD DVD and Blu-ray software players. This refresh process is accomplished via a straightforward online update.

Through this online update process, manufacturers are also able to see that consumers update their player implementations prior to distribution of encryption key expiration information via new movie discs.

Consumers are advised to check with the manufacturer of their AACS-enabled Blu-ray or HD DVD PC-based player to make sure you have installed the latest version.

http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/Press.jsp?mode=04-06-2007

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Corel Releases Important Update for InterVideo WinDVD
A Message to InterVideo WinDVD Customers

April 6, 2007

To our valued InterVideo WinDVD Customers,

Today Corel is releasing an important new security update for InterVideo WinDVD. We have taken this step to ensure that our customers continue to enjoy the latest HD DVD and BD content.

Our decision stems from recent reports that hackers have illegally obtained certain software licensing keys and have used them to duplicate copyrighted content without prior authorization. Corel takes this situation very seriously. We have been working closely with our partners and other industry organizations to ensure we take the steps necessary to prevent copyright infringement from happening in the future.

WinDVD customers who are currently using either HD DVD or BD playback will need to download the free security update from your PC or Drive manufacturer's websites.

This update includes security enhancements as well as updated licensing keys that will be required to view both newly purchased HD DVD/BD titles and those in your existing HD DVD/BD collections. By downloading Corel's free update, you will be able to continue to enjoy the latest HD DVD/BD content, while ensuring that copyrighted materials are properly protected.

Please be aware that failure to apply the update will result in AACS-protected HD DVD and BD playback being disabled.

Your continued enjoyment of our software is Corel's primary concern. If you have any questions about the WinDVD security update, please contact Corel's Customer Support Team at www.corel.com/support or by calling (800) 772-6735.

We thank you for your cooperation, continued loyalty, and support.
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post #383 of 603
4/9/07 at 1:24pm
...start the timer...NOW!!!
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post #384 of 603
4/9/07 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky View Post

...start the timer...NOW!!!

Not quite.
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post #385 of 603
4/9/07 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky View Post

...start the timer...NOW!!!

lol, agreed. I'm curious to see how long it takes to get by AACS this time
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post #386 of 603
4/9/07 at 1:55pm
There's almost an entertaining anticipation behind this in the flavors of lifespan of a Matrix cycle or like that Battlestar Galactica episode "33". Will it happen in the exact amount of time as last time, will it be shorter, will it be longer with each succeeding player update?...
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post #387 of 603
4/9/07 at 1:55pm
Given the news of the Xbox HD-DVD player's firmware being hacked, I doubt the clock will get to do much ticking. The longest wait will be for one of the newly coded disks to make its way into 'pirate' hands.
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post #388 of 603
4/9/07 at 6:39pm
The final AACS agreement (if it ever arrives) will probably contain provisions such that it is not legal to sell discs to anyone with a parrot and an eye patch. That should protect them for awhile.

- Tom
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post #389 of 603
4/9/07 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Grubert View Post

http://www.aacsla.com/home

http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/Press.jsp?mode=04-06-2007

Thats not a ringing endorsement for the agility of AACS. It took them atleast 3 months to get this done.
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post #390 of 603
4/9/07 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by nataraj View Post

Thats not a ringing endorsement for the agility of AACS. It took them atleast 3 months to get this done.

And I bet the new keys are out in 24 hours from the first disc release. Long live fair use!
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