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post #1 of 32
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So I received this tonight as a late xmas present. I have seen the movie and enjoy it. How does it look in HD..anyone own or seen it?

thanks
post #2 of 32
I watched it a couple days ago and thought it looked great. There are some shots that look as good as just about anything on the format, and overall it's solid. There are some shots towards the end that make it obvious that it wasn't a major studio project, but overall I was impressed with the visuals, and because of that I enjoyed it much more then I did when I watched it on DVD when it first came out.
post #3 of 32
At the top of this forum is a sticky thread called the Tier system, it's a thread breaking down picture quality and discussion of most HD-dvd releases.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705387

When I plugged in sky captain into the search engine, this thread with 86 responses on Sky Captain came up

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ht=sky+captain
post #4 of 32
man I hated that movie
post #5 of 32
Everytime we watch "Sky Captain", I fall asleep at the same point in the movie, where they get locked in with all the dynomite. Hehe
post #6 of 32
ya I rented it and couldn't finish it with out falling asleep. boring movie and the the PQ sucked IMO, way to soft(and I belive thats how it was shot too)
post #7 of 32
Is this the only release on HD-DVD with a DTS-HD track? I know there are a few other DTS track HD-DVDs (Italian Job, Assault on Precinct 13), but this was the first time I saw DTS-HD on something.
post #8 of 32
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Originally Posted by rboster View Post

At the top of this forum is a sticky thread called the Tier system, it's a thread breaking down picture quality and discussion of most HD-dvd releases.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705387

When I plugged in sky captain into the search engine, this thread with 86 responses on Sky Captain came up

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ht=sky+captain

thats great but i got plenty of responses without searching..so no biggie
post #9 of 32
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Originally Posted by Chris Rein View Post

Is this the only release on HD-DVD with a DTS-HD track?...

No, it is the only release miss-labeled as having DTS-HD.
post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by William View Post

No, it is the only release miss-labeled as having DTS-HD.

Whoops! Well, that sucks.

Guess this isn't the only screw up from Paramount! I noticed that Tomb Raider has two different covers. One just artwork and the other with the silver surroundings. Saw them side-by-side the other day. Interesting. I guess they figured out their "look" and just re-did it.
post #11 of 32
Anyone who has watched films from the mid to late 1930 to the 1940's will understand that the filming style for several scenes was meant to reproduce that look.

There are many places like the scenes in Dr Jenning's lab,inside the launch facilties for Totenkopf's Arc or inside the hanger early on that has detail as good as anything ever produced.

If you have a place in your heart for that period including the way they felt the future might be, human interaction or filming style you will love this. If you do not you will likely feel like some here.

Art
post #12 of 32
I couldnt stand watching more then like the first 15 minutes of this one... If anyone wants to trade for it just let me know
post #13 of 32
A reference title in that it looked just as it did in the commercial theater. Made to reproduce period photographic techniques digitally. Shows "how the future was" so to speak. Not a long film at all and for the most part very enjoyable. The sound track has some incredibly interesting sound effects and some of the best LFE out there.

Marc
post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by TomsHT View Post

I couldnt stand watching more then like the first 15 minutes of this one... If anyone wants to trade for it just let me know

Hmm, strange how we all have different tastes, eh?

When I saw the promos for this movie on TV, I thought "it could be good, but maybe just bad" and ended up skipping it at the theaters (plus I don't get out to the movies much...). I ordered it on a whim as part of my two free HD-DVDs from the VE deal, and watched it the other day (maybe Christmas day) for the first time. We all enjoyed it - the purposeful-softness was very well done, giving a nice picture while also tipping a hat to the period.

Somehow, for me, this movie evokes a "feel" similar to the original Metropolis (I wonder if that will ever make it to HD-DVD ). Not sure why, must be the robots. Or maybe I'm crazy. Could be both.

shinksma
post #15 of 32
when I watched this on my old XGA pj, it seemed to be softer and more significantly, murkier, than I remembered it being in the theater.
When I sampled it on the new 1080p, it seemed to look better than I remembered it being in the theater. There is still plenty of diffusion around the edges of live action objects composited over digital backgrounds, but the level of resolved detail inside those objects is very impressive.
I really enjoyed this, but then I've always grooved on the inspirational sources here-

My only problem with the film is I don't feel the two leads are particularly well cast. Paltrow in particular is too patrician for the role of a snappy 30s reporter. But thankfully Jolies short cameo gives the film a lot of zing and zip.
post #16 of 32
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Originally Posted by slcsnkman View Post

So I received this tonight as a late xmas present. I have seen the movie and enjoy it. How does it look in HD..anyone own or seen it?

thanks

If you like the movie, the HD version improves on the SD, but does not magically make soft images sharp. I consider it a worthwhile upgrade. Remember to include grains of salt when viewing the "Tier" thread -- their definition of picture quality is totally eye-candy related. This is not a show off your HD system title.
post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by MarqueeMarc View Post

A reference title in that it looked just as it did in the commercial theater. Made to reproduce period photographic techniques digitally. Shows "how the future was" so to speak. Not a long film at all and for the most part very enjoyable. The sound track has some incredibly interesting sound effects and some of the best LFE out there.

Marc

Tell that to the "Tier Thread" up top! That thread is "Bobbed"

I know this is HD-DVD and all, but a faithful transfer is a faithful transfer. What happened to all those purists out there? If the master doesn't have those "3D details" why would we want them to alter it to give that extra sharpness and depth? Big debate, I know, but I agree with your comments on the transfer. This looks fantastic, but yet got smoked in that tier thread.

I like it!
post #18 of 32
Cool Retro Style , If you love Robots how can you not like this movie??

I have Metropolis on SD and its so bad in quality , Would like to see it restored and on HD !!

Bob
post #19 of 32
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Originally Posted by Chris Rein View Post

Tell that to the "Tier Thread" up top! That thread is "Bobbed"

I know this is HD-DVD and all, but a faithful transfer is a faithful transfer. What happened to all those purists out there? If the master doesn't have those "3D details" why would we want them to alter it to give that extra sharpness and depth? Big debate, I know, but I agree with your comments on the transfer. This looks fantastic, but yet got smoked in that tier thread.

I like it!

I don't participate in that thread just for that reason. Not saying that it doesn't have merit( which I believe it does) but most of those involved won't rate transfers high even if they look exactly like a pristine 35mm print under ideal conditions (like this title) unless it looks 3D which I'm guessing means it has a long depth of focus like an Xbox 360 game. Grain (intentional or otherwise),coloration,intentional bumping of contrast,soft focus techniques etc are all reasons to low rate over there and this is simply absurd.

If you want wow demo stuff that thread is a great place to start but IMO it is misguided after that.


By the way after Marc's LFE post I went back and watched it yesterday. This friggen thing is gorgeous ! I have new subs (four of the Seaton Submersives) and my wife has a large rubber stamp collection. She said that the stamps weren't falling off the shelves this time they were jumping off and landing two or three feet from the wall !
post #20 of 32
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Originally Posted by underdog57 View Post

I have Metropolis on SD and its so bad in quality , Would like to see it restored and on HD !!

Bob

I saw Metropolis after it's restoration in a 35mm presentation in Ann Arbor with about a thousand others in attendence. It looked spectacular ! The travesty was when it was transferred to DVD. There it had tons of EE added along with excessive filtering etc. There is a great film print now it just needs a new HD master which may or may not ever occur.
post #21 of 32
Graphics were brilliant, but could have been a better movie. The HD-DVD PQ looks very nice, but too soft at times.
post #22 of 32
hmmm...not picked this up based on initial 'soft' reviews. Does it look as pristine as it does on the Paramount trailer - the one comparing SD and HD?
post #23 of 32
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Originally Posted by HD-DVDwonder View Post

hmmm...not picked this up based on initial 'soft' reviews. Does it look as pristine as it does on the Paramount trailer - the one comparing SD and HD?

It is not absolutely perfect. There is some banding in the underwater scenes but it is for all intents and puposes flawless otherwise.

This soft thing that just gets repeated over and over is simply missing the point...terribly !!! If you are buying HD to get eye candy for demo material,unless you are old enough or have seen a lot of 1930's and 40's films you may not like the look.

Art
post #24 of 32
I like films of all sorts. I did not see this at the cinema after viewing trailers... I thought the movie looked awful. I did see the HD DVD and was very impressed by the "look". I like how they reproduced the old filming style re: light sources mostly. Has that nice warm look to it.
post #25 of 32
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Originally Posted by mr stroke View Post

ya I rented it and couldn't finish it with out falling asleep. boring movie and the the PQ sucked IMO, way to soft(and I belive thats how it was shot too)

It was intentionally shot soft with filtering, as you mentioned, so why claim the PQ sucked because it was soft? It only makes you sound stupid when you post such garbage as this.
post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by tkmedia2 View Post

I like films of all sorts. I did not see this at the cinema after viewing trailers... I thought the movie looked awful. I did see the HD DVD and was very impressed by the "look". I like how they reproduced the old filming style re: light sources mostly. Has that nice warm look to it.


Exactly. The way the movie was shot gave it on OLD film look and also a comic book look as well. I wouldn't want to watch every movie like this, but for a film like this, I thought it was well suited.
post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn View Post

By the way after Marc's LFE post I went back and watched it yesterday. This friggen thing is gorgeous ! I have new subs (four of the Seaton Submersives) and my wife has a large rubber stamp collection. She said that the stamps weren't falling off the shelves this time they were jumping off and landing two or three feet from the wall !

If you're open to slumming (ie SD), try watching upscaled "I, Robot" with your new subs -- might reduce the stamps to powder !
post #28 of 32
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Originally Posted by tkmedia2 View Post

I like films of all sorts. I did not see this at the cinema after viewing trailers... I thought the movie looked awful. I did see the HD DVD and was very impressed by the "look". I like how they reproduced the old filming style re: light sources mostly. Has that nice warm look to it.

It's a beautiful film on both SD and HD, and I'm happy to have picked up the HD.
post #29 of 32
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Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn View Post

I saw Metropolis after it's restoration in a 35mm presentation in Ann Arbor with about a thousand others in attendence. It looked spectacular ! The travesty was when it was transferred to DVD. There it had tons of EE added along with excessive filtering etc. There is a great film print now it just needs a new HD master which may or may not ever occur.

are you talking abut the Kino release?
I haven' watched it in a couple years, but I was blown away when I first saw it.
I don't remember any EE but do remember that there were some issues in regards to the frame rate used- otherwise I was amazed at how good the print looked. I thought this film would be perpetually subject to worn, ratty and deteriorating presentations like those seen on the pd releases.

Sky Captain is one of the rare titles where I actually took time to go thru the special features. After seeing the doc on the making of the film, I came away with even more appreciation for the work here. It's a remarkably *beautiful* looking film. The snow gently falling on the approach to the ESB docking...wow.
post #30 of 32
Despite not looking nowhere as good, Metropolis trounces SCWOT (even though it's nearly 80 years old). And I like Sky Captain a lot.
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