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What receiver for Dynaudio Speakers

post #1 of 35
Thread Starter 
Hello,

I have bought

2 Dynaudio 62
2 Dynaudio 42W
1 Dynaudio 42C

and I would like to know what receiver you recommend. I just have 1000$. Please, no more.

Thanks
post #2 of 35
I have 3 pairs of Dynaudio Audience 42 bookshelves in a multi-channel music system in my bedroom. However, I migrated three of them to my front stage in my living room HT, until I can replace them with something else. I use those three with four 6-ohm surrounds (the monitor audio BFX) on my Onkyo SR-602 for 7.1. The current version of my receiver is the SR-604, which looks promissing. I got mine as a refurb last year for <$250, though, so I am not sweating the latest and greatest.

The reason I mention all this, is because my SR-602 has handled these 4-ohm fronts, with 6-ohm rears, for the last ~18 months with no complaints. Sounds very good, too. Well, it hangs well with the 90w/channel (@ 4-ohms) that the Adcom GFA-7300 in the bedroom puts out, at least.

I say you can find a suitable receiver for much less than $1K, especially if you look for deals (and refurbs, like I did) using www.pricegrabber.com and even www.bizrate.com

Good luck with whatever you choose!
post #3 of 35
With the 4 Ohm speakers, you should abandon thoughts of a receiver and move towards separates. Rotel and NAD would be good places to start in your price range.
post #4 of 35
For around $1000 I would recommend a Cambridge Audio 640v2, or whatever the latest version is.

Dynaudio speaker need high current amplifiers like Cambrige, Arcam, etc.
post #5 of 35
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your replies. I know I should buy something like Nad or rotel. I have seen the Cambridge Audio 640v2 and it is a 8 ohms which is not the most suitable receiver for th speakers. Currently my first two options are NAD T753 and Thules AV100. My other options (and cheaper) are Harman Kardon AVR 340 and Marantz SR5001. I know they will not take all th power of the speakers but I can pay for them.

Thanks
post #6 of 35
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your replies. I know I should buy something like Nad or rotel. I have seen the Cambridge Audio 640v2 and it is a 8 ohms which is not the most suitable receiver for the speakers. Currently my first two options are NAD T753 and Thules AV100. My other options (and cheaper) are Harman Kardon AVR 340 and Marantz SR5001. I know they will not take all the power of the speakers but I can pay for them.

Thanks
post #7 of 35
Sherwood Newcastle is another choice that can handle the 4 ohm load
post #8 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by almo_es View Post

Thanks for your replies. I know I should buy something like Nad or rotel. I have seen the Cambridge Audio 640v2 and it is a 8 ohms which is not the most suitable receiver for the speakers. Currently my first two options are NAD T753 and Thules AV100. My other options (and cheaper) are Harman Kardon AVR 340 and Marantz SR5001. I know they will not take all the power of the speakers but I can pay for them.

Thanks

Marantz, denon, sony-yamaha- most reliable imo. I hear dynaudio is laid back sounding so denon or marantz should work well. Nad makes great amps no doubt but a big ? on reliability and home theater processing with their receivers. I think the best way to go is a cheap receiver with pre outs and then add a amplifier. Some good deals on marantz out there.
post #9 of 35
Pretty much any receiver is NOT going to give you the juice that the dyn's need, let alone a $1,000 one. I personally would buy a used Outlaw 950 for $400 from Audiogon (they sell there all the time for that price) and a used outlaw 750 (165 x 5) for approx $600. You would be VERY close to your $1,000 range and be happy as a pig in... well.... you know.

Driving any Dynaudio with a receiver is practically blasphemous. I drove a pair of 1.3 MKII's with an Intrega DTR 7.2 for about a year until I switched to a real amp and I will never go back! Your situation would be even worse as receivers make even less power with more distortion with all channels driven.
post #10 of 35
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your quick replies. I know it is not enough money but it is a gift for my brother. I live in Spain so it is not easy to get used components. Then, and having into account that prices in europe are higher, I should focus on the reeiver and if my brother wants to add an amp in the future it will be perfect. So, do you think I should buy, for example Marantz SR5001, and add an amp in the future? My brother will start using the Marantz maybe for a year without adding an amp.
The other option is the Thules AV100 which looks a good option. Do you know anything about this one?
post #11 of 35
Sperate amp only!!!!
As a owner of Dyn pro speakers to do them justice get a real amp. My front stage are:

M2 left and right
M1.5 Center
BM15 sides
M1 rear
Just my 2 cents..
post #12 of 35
Thread Starter 
I know the best option is an amp but I want a home cinema amp. Thn, and considering that I don't have too much money, I am focusing my efforts on receivers that can work well with the speakers. I have a new choice, Vincent SV382. Do you know this one?
post #13 of 35
Get the biggest Marantz you can afford. Maybe you could find last year's SR-8500.
post #14 of 35
Quote:


Get the biggest Marantz you can afford. Maybe you could find last year's SR-8500.

Pretty good advice, you could try accessories4less which deals in new and refurb Marantz receivers with factory warranty. You could either get this years 7001 model or last years 8500 model for under your budget. Here are the links:

7001
8500

7001 has the lateste features, including HDMI connectivity, the 8500 will have a better amp section.
post #15 of 35
Thread Starter 
I like Marantz (I have one at home) but I am looking for 4ohms amplification. Do you think Marantz will be the good option?
post #16 of 35
IMO, if you are limited to a $1000 budget, the Marantz 8500 is probably one of the best receivers available within your price range, should not have a problem with 4 ohm speakers.

Another solid choice (based on reviews, no personal experience) would be the Outlaw 1070 receiver. It meets your budget, though it is not as powerful as the Marantz 8500.
Outlaw 1070
post #17 of 35
look for thx ultra II spec on the receivers they will drive them.
post #18 of 35
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by oztech View Post

look for thx ultra II spec on the receivers they will drive them.

why should I look for thx ultra II? That could be enough with Marantz 5001.
post #19 of 35
I'll put another vote in for the Marantz. No issues with 4 ohms. An SR-8500 is an awesome product.
post #20 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by almo_es View Post

why should I look for thx ultra II? That could be enough with Marantz 5001.

the spec say it has to deliver all channels driven and it has to go
down to 3.2 ohm in its stated power.
post #21 of 35
If I had a pair of Dyns, I'd be looking at separate components. I've heard the Dyns being driven by Bryston gear before. Impressive - to say the least.
post #22 of 35
if you have the money and space no question separates.
post #23 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by soundlovr View Post

With the 4 Ohm speakers, you should abandon thoughts of a receiver and move towards separates. Rotel and NAD would be good places to start in your price range.

This is absolutely misinformed. You can "abandon thoughts of a receiver", if you want, but "should" is just not an informed choice of words. Based on real world experience with the Onkyo 602 (me), 600 (one friend), and the 501 (another friend) there are even good quality, low-end receivers that will handle a 4-ohm load with ease. There are obviously ones that can't, but you shouldn't dump the baby with the bath water. Not with a <$1000 budget, anyway.

As I already mentioned, my <$250 Onkyo SR602 refurb has run my Dyn 4 ohm setup across the front stage for almost 18 months. It is just barely warm after >12 continious hours of 7.1 operation (roomate and I are on opposite shifts), and it sounds very comparible to a mid level seperates setup (Stereophile "class A" multi-ch pre, with Parasound/Adcom amplification) when both are used with a heavily compressed DTS or DD source. That is my personal experience, anyway. Throw in my (also Stereophile "class A") SACD player, and things do change a good bit, however.

I just wanted to re-emphasize the difference between my actual experience vs the opinions of those here who have (apparently) not tried using a real 4ohm speaker load with a good quality, low-end receiver. I will be moving to all seperates eventually, but a receiver with a decent amp section is an excellent intermediate solution to run until I want to drop enough cash on my electronics and get there.

Again, good luck with whatever you decide. Just don't spend more than you want to, at the moment. Your Dyns will last you a lifetime, so they will still be around when you are ready to drop the scratch on a seperates setup.
post #24 of 35
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonathanb3478 View Post

This is absolutely misinformed. You can "abandon thoughts of a receiver", if you want, but "should" is just not an informed choice of words. Based on real world experience with the Onkyo 602 (me), 600 (one friend), and the 501 (another friend) there are even good quality, low-end receivers that will handle a 4-ohm load with ease. There are obviously ones that can't, but you shouldn't dump the baby with the bath water. Not with a <$1000 budget, anyway.

How many Dyn do you have connected to the receiver?

Today I will try to listen Nad 573. I have had a look the Vincent SV382 which looks fine but it does not pre-outputs for future amplifications. I have started to consider buy a normal one (like Marantz SR5001) and add an amp in the future. SR-8500 is expensive in Spain. The other option is Thule AV100.
post #25 of 35
Thread Starter 
Final Decision:

- Denon 2806
- Yamaha RX 1700 (most recommended)
- Marantz SR7001

One of these. Help?
post #26 of 35
of the three you narrowed it down to i would
get the marantz but as always let your ears
and your switching and input needs decide.
post #27 of 35
Thread Starter 
Today I just could listen Vincent AV382. But it does not have pre-output.

Then, finally I am between these two:
1. Yamaha RX 1700 (1000)
2. Marantz SR7001 (1200)

200=250$. Do you think I should pay this difference? I don't think there is too much differences between these two receivers.
post #28 of 35
I have listened to the Yamaha 6090 (Bix-box retailer version of the 1700).
I have listened to the Marantz 7001.
I have listened to Dynaudio speakers and other speakers with Dynaudio drivers.
BUT...I have never listened to this gear together.

In my opinion, the Marantz sound will mate better with Dynaudio's than Yamaha. So would Denon, again in my opinion. But budget factors are a consideration too...imho, the 7001 is $250 better than the 1700.
post #29 of 35
Thread Starter 
I like more Marantz than Yamaha. But I don't think my like is 250$.
post #30 of 35
almo_es,
One thought, is Cambridge Audio equipment available to you at a reasonable price? If so you might want to check their receiver product line out, reasonably priced in the states and a pretty good performer.
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