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Do you know for 100% that global warming is real? Or are we just going through a natural warming cycle in the Earth?

Haven't you seen The Day After Tomorrow?

I agree about how we have gone to a new level but Chad would serve your site better if he would draw conclusions from cause and effect not as a good place for a dig where he has an axe to grind.

His comments are not mistakes but instead pretty obvious unsubstantiated conclusions. By the way , he may well be right but without having compared to the master or having seen the film in one MPEG2 and one VC1 transfer his statements must be taken as heavily biased assumptions at best and at worst blatent attempts to mislead readers.

Art

I think that is the crux of the issue. I would love the opportunity to truly A/B compare after seeing the original D5 master (with its own set of minor compression issues). Transparency is in the eye of the beholder, but I'd trust some people's eyes more than others.

If that is the case then AVSers should avoid Home theater spot.

That's easy. What's Home Theater Spot? You mean there's another site that contains info not found here??

larry

Excellent post. That is the major reason I now avoid his reviews and the site. No need for this.

To be honest, I gave up on HTS when I saw a particular passage in their review of Kung Fu Hustle, which can be found here.

I questioned the reviewer's legitimacy when he said the following: "Here's another 25GB disc with essentially all the extras from the DVD, MPEG2 video, and uncompressed sound that disproves the myths that naysayers like to perpetuate in fear that they might realize they're missing out." To me this was unwarranted and his portrayal of the so called "naysayers" is false.

I got band from Spot for something I said about SVS and I'm a happy SVS owner.

http://www.***************.com/htsth...?sequence=1792

I presume your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek...

Interesting post.....has anyone compared the MPEG 2 dvd side in those sequences to the VC-1 HD DVD side....taking into account loss of resolution does the MPEG 2 side show none of these side effects ?

First off Chad's Opinions are his own. He is only one of many reviewers who each have their own opinion as unique as the individuals that they all are. We don't tell anyone what to say in their reviews on HTS. Nor do any of our reviewers or the administration get paid or receive any compensation for their reviews or told what to say in their reviews. The only compensation they get is to keep the DVD that is sent them for review if you can even call that compensation. Many of which Chad personally donates off to local charities when done.

We also DO NOT have a bias against Microsoft and to say so is fictitious to be polite, and if I were to be blunt, an outright lie. I live in Microsoft Town. Most of my Neighbors are Microsofties, so to say so, is absolutely ridiculous. You would have a stronger statement to say I am in the Microsoft camp by the fact I live in Seattle and know many employees and I am in favor of them than to say we have bias against them. Both would be untrue statements but please, some of you really need to grow up. You guys really need to stop thinking there is a conspiracy behind every door.

There seems to be a lot of bashing of HTS going on here as I have had several emails requesting that I step in and say something. I am not sure why but the only reason maybe because we don't allow such vicious and slanderous/libelous comments to be slung about on our own forum and those that do try to pull this crap are asked to leave. (Someone was referencing that they were banned. BTW out of 60,000 members in 6 years less than 100 members have ever been banned. We don't make a habit of doing it, so those who say they have probably have a notorious reason for why they were. I can say of the forums our size we have less banned members than anyone else.) On the flip side when we get disgruntled AVS members over at HTS upset about something here and they come on to HTS to use it as a weapon against AVS we don't allow that and more than once over the years we have, at the request of Alan or David, stopped such obvious attempts to slander AVS as is being done here against us. I consider Alan and Dave to be my friends, who don't deserve such treatment. It is a sad reflection on those of you that make such broad unsubstantiated statements about HTS as has been done here, since we would not allow such a thing against AVS over there. Having a preference for one site over another is one thing but to take it to the point of slander/libel, as some of you are doing, is taking it a bit too far.

For crying out loud, it is one persons opinion about one review and he even came on and clarified that it was not a blanket criticism of a format in general if people were taking it that way. Maybe you should just take him on face value on that, instead of making stuff up.

Sheesh.

Editor In-Chief
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Paul, didn't you ban all us Limeys, population approx. 50 million? That's a bit more than a 100.

Jeffy, no I didn't ban all "limeys". The last name of "Carleton" doesn't get more English than that. Don't be ridiculous. (Again you only back up my statement about slanderous/libelous statements.) Your wisecrack only gives evidence as to why you are 1 of 100 banned out of more than 60,000 others who otherwise manage to be civil and polite.

the Spot is ruled with a Iron fist, that I can say, some will like it and some not

this thread is gonna go way down south very quick like

-Gary

Seeing that Chad only participates hard on this section on the forum when either one of two things occur:

VC-1 encode in question
Rival codec doing well so he can take a jab at VC-1

I'd clearly say that bias isn't with HTS but with Chad. For some reason, boy wonder can't get over it but whatever, his words are meaningless in the long run. Just enough to get a few more hits and have fanatics from either side arguing over it for a bit. Even being format neutral, I pay no stock to Chad's input. It's like reading www.inquirer.net but only less entertaining.

A lot of bashing? Really? Did you read through the entire thread? I just reviewed it and out of 137 posts there were 4 negative comments about Home Theater Spot, and most of those were people merely stating that they no longer visit the site. Everything else in this thread was either a rebuttal of Chad's post or an extension of the codec debates that have been going on around here for years. So that's hardly the scathing indictment of your site that you are making it out to be.


That's a pretty strong statement, and I would remind you of the rules and guidelines on THIS forum; you should report inapproriate posts to the moderators. You're making it sound as though the moderators here don't care about what is posted on the forum. I'm sure that isn't really what you meant, but that is how it reads.


This brings us to the crux of the matter. You have a real problem with Jeffy's comment. I don't necessarily blame you for that. However, you aren't helping your case with the above diatribe. You are making broad statements yourself about AVS Forum, on the basis of one person's post, when it may have been better to quietly report that post to the moderators and let them deal with it.


Yes, it is one person's opinion. Most of the posts in this thread directly challenge that opinion and there is nothing wrong with that. Sure, there are a few borderline posts. I also would agree that the topic title was chosen by the thread starter for no other reason than to manufacture controversy for the sake of dramatic impact. So I will ask the moderators to change the topic title.

I agree with Gary, but hold out hope that cooler heads will prevail.

--Jerome

thread title edited

I would love an answer to this.....regarding posterization in the underwater scenes of Superman Returns....i noticed no problems on the MPEG 2 dvd side but i am wondering if there are any problems on the VC-1 HD DVD side ....anyone ?

Well, once again I feel compelled to comment on several statements made at us. First off we don't rule with an Iron Fist. That is another absolute falsehood. Again you guys only discredit yourselves when you make such statements based on absolutely no reality whatsoever. I have only had to ban one person in months and that was for ripping us off. I have not had to shut down a thread or ask someone to curb what they are saying in months, except for the occasional spam thread by someone trying to come on and advertise or sell something without permission. Something they do here as well.

Simply because we don't allow bad behavior it doesn't mean we have to rule people with an iron fist in order to get people to comply. People understand we have rules of engagement and for the most part voluntarily adhere to those rules because it allows for a friendly environment free from the kind of false statements like those being said in here, which only promote bad and rude behavior, not to mention the fact that doing so shows a lack of credibility by those doing it. This is why I was getting emails asking me to come over and say something. (Yes I am also very well aware of the rules here. I have been a member here for 8 years and as I said, Alan and Dave are friends. Alan and David don't rule with an iron fist and I will wager they have to enforce the rules far more than we have to.)

There is basically more than just the 4 posts that were negative, the whole thread was a negative statement about *************** and Chad's review was nothing more than an excuse to blanket everyone over there with a false assumption. Mark the Moderator has recognized there is a problem by having to Edit the Title of this thread. Something he did on his own without me asking him to do. (Thank you Mark.) The whole Title of the Thread was a blanket statement, *************** on VC-1, as if it was a policy of the Administration and that we all have an agenda, which you all jumped on as being truth, forcing me and other Editors of HTS to have to come on here and defend ourselves because we were getting emailed about this. Coming on here and having to do this is something I normally don't do out of respect for Alan and Dave nor do I have to, because false statements like this usually don't go this far here.

If this thread degraded it was only by those who made the false statements, not by those of us defending against them and pointing that fact out.

Enough said. After this anything that is said further is simply an attempt to yank a chain. As Mark says in his signature, Please take the high road in every post. Words to live by on forums such as these. I will only add that everyone should also assume that we all have good intentions and to assume that first, before you start accusing people of hidden agendas that are simply not there.

Thanks Paul

and with that it is time to say:

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