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Pioneer--How the Heck do you tune HD Channels

post #1 of 9
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I feel stupid, but I am having a hard time figuring out how to tune the digital channels on my Pioneer 1120 Plasma. For the last couple of years, I have been using cable, but due to a fight between Sinclair Broadcasting and Mediacom, I decided to set up an antenna for OTA reception.

To get the complete set of local digital stations, I need to rotate my antenna to two different positions. I don't have any problems using the Channel setup commaond for Ant. A to acquire the stations in one position, but I can't figure out how to add the channels that I can receive in the other antenna position. If I enter the channel that the station is broadcast on (e.g. channel 16 because channel 17.1 is broadcast on channel 16), I get snow. Using the add channel command there is no way to enter decimal places, so I can't add channel 17.1. If I go into tv watching mode, I can switch the cannel to channels with decimal places, but the TV won't go to those channels unless a digital channel is mapped to t using the Channel setup procedure. Similarly, if I go to the assigned frequency, I only pick up snow.

So the only way I can figure out to get all of the channels available with my antenna is to rotate the antenna to the appropriate direction and run through channel setup. If I want to watch a different channel, I have to rotate the antenna and run channel setup again. This is suboptimal because it takes quite a while to run channel setup. I would really like to get all of the channels mapped, and then be able to watch the channel by simply rotating the antenna.
post #2 of 9
must be the old way that pioneer did it. with the new 5070, if you run a channel scan then run another one soon thereafter, it wont lose the original channels.
post #3 of 9
I have a similar situation. I have Chicago to the south and Milwaukee to the north. Unfortunately I'm 40-50 miles from each so I need a large antenna. If all your channels are fairly close try a multi directional antenna to eliminate the rotator. I actually programmed my harmony 880 to control my zenith remote controlled rotator and set up a button on my remote for each direction to make it simple for me. I have a hitachi panel so I cant help there. Try posting in the pioneer thread.Good luck.
post #4 of 9
You could try splitting your antenna feed and feeding both ant a & ant b. Then (I think) you could set up one direction on ant a and the other on ant b.
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Originally Posted by why2not View Post

You could try splitting your antenna feed and feeding both ant a & ant b. Then (I think) you could set up one direction on ant a and the other on ant b.

except that with the wonderful pioneer tuner setup, ANT B is analog only and he wont get any digital channels. why pioneer chose to puty an analog tuner only on ANT B when the analog stations are set to be turned off in a year is beyond me. very short-sighted.
post #6 of 9
There are way to many people getting analog cable for it to go away any time soon. IMHO!
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Originally Posted by mikel51 View Post

ITo get the complete set of local digital stations, I need to rotate my antenna to two different positions. I don't have any problems using the Channel setup commaond for Ant. A to acquire the stations in one position, but I can't figure out how to add the channels that I can receive in the other antenna position. If I enter the channel that the station is broadcast on (e.g. channel 16 because channel 17.1 is broadcast on channel 16), I get snow. Using the add channel command there is no way to enter decimal places, so I can't add channel 17.1.

Ok, so the Pioneer does not allow for direct entry of actual digital broadcast channels. My Samsung T451 does this, but it is an ATSC tuner only with no analog tuner. The Pioneer has an analog tuner, so it likely assumes the entered channel is analog and the software does not provide a way to specify digital. Not a good design IMO, but my Sony HDD250 DVR is the same way, although it does allow for update scans.

The easier solution may be to look at the antenna you are using. If the stations are not that far away, a less directional antenna may do the trick. I get stations from 2 cities some 50+ degrees apart at 16 and 43 miles along with stations scattered around in azimuth with a Channel Master 4221. No need for a rotator or rescan. You may want to go to the HDTV Hardware reception forum, provide your zip & situation, and get some advice on the antenna setup.
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Originally Posted by dtrell View Post

except that with the wonderful pioneer tuner setup, ANT B is analog only and he wont get any digital channels.

Please tell me this isn't true -- I literally ordered a Pioneer 4270HD a few hours ago and having two digital RF inputs was one of the big reasons I selected it.

I downloaded and looked through the owner's manual before buying, but I didn't go any deeper than verifying that it had two RF inputs -- it didn't (and never would have) occurred to me that they wouldn't both be digital.
post #9 of 9
well they arent. ANT A is digital, ANT B is analog...sorry to burst your bubble....pioneer needs to be like my sony 26xbr1 lcd tv and have an antenna input separate from a cable input. i dont know of any plasma tv's with two ATSC tuners.
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