Originally Posted by audio_art
I'd like to thank everyone for their input concerning my 3.7's.
It's truly amazing that Jim Thiel can design a speaker that is so wonderful that a bad thing can't be said bout it.
It's even more incredible that I cannot sell this engineering marvel for a fraction of it's $12,000 listing. Maybe that says more than all of your posts.
Speaking only for myself
, I sure hope my posts did not come across as "defending" Thiel. I did not buy the 7.2, a previous Thiel flagship, because it sounded just a tad hard and edgy to my ears. All of Thiel's previous generation aluminum tweeter (before 3.7) had that effect on me. It was the only thing that kept me on the sideline for a long time until we came upon a set of used 2.4's. Even then, there were music I would not play on the 2.4's. I thought the recordings were bad. That qualifies as a criticism, I hope
Your posts never clearly stated what components and cables are used in your set-up, so I naturally would point out all the audiophile tidbits to help see if you can enjoy the speakers. If my posts came across wrong, please accept my apology.
I am very familiar with a friend's 802's driven by his mostly McIntosh gear (MC23??, C1000, ARC CD3, Nordost Valhalla). We have even swapped gear and loaned each other our speakers. The 802's are indeed wonderful speakers. Without any info regarding your set-up and using only my friend as a sample, I can appreciate why you find the 3.7's not to your liking. It really is a matter of tastes in this case.
To me, the 802 is a polite, sweet and slightly mellow sounding system. It has a nice bloom that gives it a very cuddly warm characteristics. It is quite good at softening the edginess in solid state sound and sounds wonderful with tubes. It has that sensation of "warm-embrace" every time I listen to it. I want to dim the light, lay back down, turn up the heat and let the music wash all over me. Thiel 3.7's on the other hand, in this comparison, is more "critical". It is fast, no-nonsense and lively. It makes me sit up, listen to every breath of a singer and every pluck of an instrument. The 3.7 does nothing to the edginess in solid state gear. My ears can often hear them. While the 802's have a nice comfy bottom end, the 3.7's are tout, tight and punchy and definitely lack the lowest possible bass frequencies. Where the 802 paints a beautiful "picture" of sweet-embracing sound, the 3.7 tries to land the performance right in the room. In my own bias opinion, the 802 makes beautiful music while the 3.7 lets me hear a performance. I can actually live with both, I just cannot afford both and had to choose
Speaking of buying yours, I came real close to taking the "bait", so to speak. If this economy did not turn sour so badly so fast, I would have bought a pair of 3.7's off Audiogon for $8000!
Again, I hope you are able to sell yours soon. Good luck!