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Panny AX100U or Mitsu HD1000 over current Panny AE700?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Would the Mitsubishi HD1000 or the Panny AX100U be a HUGE upgrade over my current Panny AE700U?
I have had the projector for 2 years and am on the same bulb. However it is due for a replacement soon.
My room does have ambient light in it so I could use better contrast and brightness but don't want to spend the money to upgrade unless it's going to be a huge improvement. The HD1000 is more affordable but i'm concerned by the lack of lens shift. Something I have had to use with my current projector.

Screen is 119"

This is the room, front and back:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture001.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture002.jpg

We have since painted it a much darker color.
post #2 of 20
what are the dimensions of the room? If you need lens shift, you need lens shift.
post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by SixkillerNYC View Post

what are the dimensions of the room? If you need lens shift, you need lens shift.

It's 16' wide and 9' tall

Projector is about 13' back from screen.
post #4 of 20
You should be able to use a DLP without any problems. Check the projector calculator on Mitsubishi's site to make sure.
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by SixkillerNYC View Post

You should be able to use a DLP without any problems. Check the projector calculator on Mitsubishi's site to make sure.

yeah, but my question is, is it going to be a worthwhile upgrade over my current projector and with my current lighting conditions?
post #6 of 20
I upgraded from a AE500 to a AE900, and to be honest, noticed very little difference in image quality.......both were very good, but not quite 'there' yet

I then purchased my Sony HS50 and it was a very clear winner, blacks were much deeper, gone was the mirky dark grey of the ae900.........

I would not consider a single chip DLP, as I dont like the way single chip dlps operate, the colours are never as good as a 3x lcd unit, and the 3x system, outputs a full colour and image, none of the flashing the colors to fool the eye into seeing a full colour image nonsense..............

sorry, but it is a nonsence in my opinion.........we have 3 chip LCDs available, why would anyone want a single chip DLP ?

now a 3 chip DLP, I would love one of those..........

I have seen a lot of projectors, plasmas, lcd tvs, and I would say, get the Sony hs60 if u value a truer black, this is important for dyamic range in the image, and worth sacrificing smooth screen...........as I find without deep blacks, I an always disappointed with the mirky grey images...........

other choices would be Pana 100, Hitachi 300............

but trust me, if u saw them all 3 side by side, u would see the HS60 is by far the better image for a truer cinematic image.....
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by ag studios View Post

sorry, but it is a nonsence in my opinion.........we have 3 chip LCDs available, why would anyone want a single chip DLP ?

ummmm....cost.

The AX100 is a big upgrade over the AE700. I sold my 700 on Ebay and upgraded to the 100. Haven't seen the HD1000 yet, but at that price, I have one on order.
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by ag studios View Post

I would not consider a single chip DLP, as I dont like the way single chip dlps operate, the colours are never as good as a 3x lcd unit, and the 3x system, outputs a full colour and image, none of the flashing the colors to fool the eye into seeing a full colour image nonsense..............

sorry, but it is a nonsence in my opinion.........we have 3 chip LCDs available, why would anyone want a single chip DLP ?

now a 3 chip DLP, I would love one of those..........

I won't argue the RBE part of this where you are going with the 1 chip to 3 chip part of this. But imo DLP colors are much better then LCD's. To say never is definately not accurate.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by HorrorScope View Post

But imo DLP colors are much better then LCD's.

That is not correct.
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by CaspianM View Post

That is not correct.

First I chuckle, my opinion can't really be refuted as being incorrect, but lets get to further details.

Then it has to be debatable because the Z2 I have was being beaten by my friends DLP and my new HD1000 DLP by a better then wide margin, a night and day margin. So like I said it can't be blanket statement for sure and I'm sorry but I do question this in general. I would have to believe there are many that think colors on a DLP are better then a LCD and I bet MikeTyson has something to say on that as well, but just a guess there.
post #11 of 20
There is not any proof that DLP is better in color. It all boils down to individual model and make. Opinions can't be incorrect!!??
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by CaspianM View Post

There is not any proof that DLP is better in color. It all boils down to individual model and make. Opinions can't be incorrect!!??

Now I'm confused, but anyway I'm refuting a person that mentioned 1 Chip DLP's can never have better color then LCD's. I have two projectors over here saying otherwise, in opinion certainly and in a blind test in my two cases it would be a landslide victory for DLP. I actually didn't make any type of complete and sweeping blankent statement.
post #13 of 20
I think this article covers several issues being discussed here:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/lcd_dlp_update.htm
post #14 of 20
The AX100 produces a very smooth clean image.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by georgeorwell View Post

ummmm....cost.

The AX100 is a big upgrade over the AE700. I sold my 700 on Ebay and upgraded to the 100. Haven't seen the HD1000 yet, but at that price, I have one on order.

How much of an upgrade? I know what the specs say but i'm curious from users and since you did own my same projector.....

How much brighter is it? How much better are the black levels?
post #16 of 20
Recollecting the 500 was out in conjunction with the Z2. I just did the Z2 to HD1000 and it's a major jump. Especially in color accuracy, lol but seriously to. The one thing though it was a chore watching V for Vendetta tonight (2nd night last night is was football and that was easy to watch) the contrast of dark and light made a ton of RBE, which really wore on me and makes it hard for me to really focus and relax on the screen. I am hoping this is wears out on time, like a week max. That then as it is now is the best thing of a LCD, it's relaxing to watch, no strain at all. But damn if this thing isn't throwing damn near a perfect picture otherwise. It's as good as my flat panels the Z2 never was even close, which was probably close to the 500.
post #17 of 20
My PJ-History Sanyo PLV70 to NEC LP240 to Benq PE8700 to Optom H79 to Sony HS51 to Sony HS60/51a and now Panasonic PT-AX100 this PJ ist the best of all in my opinion. The next will be the PEARL or the JVC H1 i will make my chose after seeing both.

greets

Shotrnote the Screendoor on the Sony HS50/HS60 is very bad
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by archer75 View Post

How much of an upgrade? I know what the specs say but i'm curious from users and since you did own my same projector.....

How much brighter is it? How much better are the black levels?

It's hard to be quantitative (other than the specs), but I had just put a new bulb in my 700, so that's what I was comparing against. The AX100 was significantly brighter, with much better contrast. I had a gray screen for the 700, I now have a white screen for the 100. I had the 2 pjs sitting on 2 different shelves, with the same HDMI fed signal source. My shootout lasted 5 minutes, that's how long it took me to decide to keep the 100 and sell the 700. A few more benefits....much quieter, no more vertical banding.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by blackbird View Post

My PJ-History Sanyo PLV70 to NEC LP240 to Benq PE8700 to Optom H79 to Sony HS51 to Sony HS60/51a and now Panasonic PT-AX100 this PJ ist the best of all in my opinion. The next will be the PEARL or the JVC H1 i will make my chose after seeing both.

greets

Shotrnote the Screendoor on the Sony HS50/HS60 is very bad

I couldn't disagree more. Two things I hate are SDE and RBE. I got to demo a brand new H60 last weekend, and I measured that I had to get 5 feet from the screen before SDE bothered me. At 10 feet, 14 feet, no way I could see it. Very sharp picture. I still prefer smooth screen, but I was impressed with the lack of SDE I was used to seeing years ago on pjs.
post #20 of 20
I commented on the difference between my HD1000 and AE700 in this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9169887
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