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post #31 of 369
Keep in mind that the original poster also changed out his projector and it was the synergies of both components with ISF calibration that he's commenting on.
post #32 of 369
I think the poster's exuberance is more related to the ISF calibration's impact rather than a more superlative player. I believe the poster is simply outputting 1080i. I wouldn't expect an astounding difference as it seems the A2 he compared it to was not optimized.
post #33 of 369
thebland,

I totally agree with you.

So, ugh, which of us is going to buy one first?
post #34 of 369
I want to see the issues related to the A2 resolved.. (e.g. audio & HDCP).
post #35 of 369
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

I think the poster's exuberance is more related to the ISF calibration's impact rather than a more superlative player. I believe the poster is simply outputting 1080i. I wouldn't expect an astounding difference as it seems the A2 he compared it to was not optimized.

If this is true, can someone do a direct comparison of the A1/XA1/A2 to the XA2 outputing 1080i? I'ld like to see this.
J
post #36 of 369
Big J

You're not asking much, are you?
post #37 of 369
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Originally Posted by Hoof View Post

Can someone explain what exactly makes the AX2 have a superior PQ over the A2? I was under the impression that 1080i60 and 1080p60 would look the same on a 1080p tv.

I would speculate deep color and the Realta chip.

k
post #38 of 369
I expect this unit to be as good as or better than the Pioneer blu ray unit (which has amazing picQ). Adding a XA2 should give me the best of both worlds...
post #39 of 369
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Originally Posted by kevivoe View Post

I would speculate deep color and the Realta chip.

k

would that chip make a difference only for 1080p or 1080i as well?
post #40 of 369
This is driving me nuts.

I'm at work and my XA2 is sitting right next to me and I have three more
hours before the fun begins.
post #41 of 369
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Big J

You're not asking much, are you?

Sorry, I'm considering upgrading my A1, but my SXRD only accepts 1080i. I know the A1/Xa1/A2 look pretty much the same, but if this is a significant improvement even at 1080i, I'll consider it. If its just a moderate improvement, I'll wait. I'ld also like to know how the upscaling is compared to the other players.
J
post #42 of 369
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Originally Posted by petmic10 View Post

This is driving me nuts.

I'm at work and my XA2 is sitting right next to me and I have three more
hours before the fun begins.

Cough Cough...Boss I don't feel good.
post #43 of 369
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Originally Posted by kevivoe View Post

I would speculate deep color and the Realta chip.

k

The discs don't have deep color on them.
J
post #44 of 369
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Originally Posted by Big J View Post

Sorry, I'm considering upgrading my A1, but my SXRD only accepts 1080i. I know the A1/Xa1/A2 look pretty much the same, but if this is a significant improvement even at 1080i, I'll consider it. If its just a moderate improvement, I'll wait. I'ld also like to know how the upscaling is compared to the other players.
J

My point is that its extremely unlikely a user (to differentiate from a seller) is likely to have all 4 models. Objectively, I'd rather hear what user collectively have to say after a couple of weeks when the warts appear.
post #45 of 369
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Big J

You're not asking much, are you?

He really isn't.
His post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big J View Post

If this is true, can someone do a direct comparison of the A1/XA1/A2 to the XA2 outputing 1080i? I'ld like to see this.
J

He asks for "a direct comparison of the A1/XA1/A2 to the XA2 outputing 1080i".
That's a A1 or A2 or XA1 vs. XA2.
Not, as your implying; a A1 and a A2 and a XA1 vs. XA2.
See the difference?
Maybe you thought it was A1 & A2 & XA1 vs. XA2?

I'm hoping this thread becomes a sticky w/the title "XA2 Reviews".
That way, every single time some lucky person gets one, they wouldn't start a "new" thread!

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Originally Posted by the bland View Post

I want to see the issues related to the A2 resolved.. (e.g. audio & HDCP).

Agree!
And crush issues as well.
post #46 of 369
There already are a sticky. Not that it's being used correctly either.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=768634
post #47 of 369
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

My point is that its extremely unlikely a user (to differentiate from a seller) is likely to have all 4 models. Objectively, I'd rather hear what user collectively have to say after a couple of weeks when the warts appear.

Big Ed is correct. Since the A1, XA1, and A2 have basically the same PQ, a comparison of any of them to the XA2 would work.
Yes, this thread should be a sticky.
J
post #48 of 369
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

I find this hard to believe that is is 'a lot better than the HD-A2'? Was your A2 ISF calibrated as well? In what respect is it 'a lot better'?

If it is free of the plaguing issues on the HD-A2, I may get one myself!

It's not hard to believe the xa-2 has hdmi 1.3 for deep color and the reon chip for sharpness and a more 3d look.
post #49 of 369
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Originally Posted by jiujitsu35 View Post

It's not hard to believe the xa-2 has hdmi 1.3 for deep color and the reon chip for sharpness and a more 3d look.

To the best of my knowledge, HD DVDs do not have deep color. It isn't even in the specs.
J
post #50 of 369
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Originally Posted by Big J View Post

To the best of my knowledge, HD DVDs do not have deep color. It isn't even in the specs.
J

Also, previous versions of HDMI already support "deep color" using YPbPr component.

--
Steve
post #51 of 369
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

I want to see the issues related to the A2 resolved.. (e.g. audio & HDCP).

HDMI audio works perfectly with my equipment and the A2. Perhaps it is your audio processor.
post #52 of 369
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Originally Posted by Chris in SD View Post

HDMI audio works perfectly with my equipment and the A2. Perhaps it is your audio processoR

Nope....It's the HDA2 that's the problem. However, my HDA1 was OK on HDMI audio as is my Panny Blu Ray player, JVC 5U D-Theater deck, Pioneer 59AVi. All provide audio via HDMI through my Halcro processor.
post #53 of 369
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Originally Posted by kanefsky View Post

Also, previous versions of HDMI already support "deep color" using YPbPr component.

Not really. They support 10bit or 12bit YCbCr, but only in 4:2:2. If you want 4:4:4, YCbCr is limited to 8bit with HDMI 1.2, just like RGB is.
post #54 of 369
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Nope....It's the HDA2 that's the problem. However, my HDA1 was OK on HDMI audio as is my Panny Blu Ray player, JVC 5U D-Theater deck, Pioneer 59AVi. All provide audio via HDMI through my Halcro processor.

Just because some other units work ok with your processor doesn't automatically mean that the A2 is the source of trouble.

A2s are working with all sorts of other equipment. Have you reported this problem you have experienced directly to Toshiba or is your agenda merely to consider slighting Toshiba HD gear in this forum?
post #55 of 369
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Originally Posted by Big J View Post

To the best of my knowledge, HD DVDs do not have deep color. It isn't even in the specs.

Then what was the point of adding it if HD optical discs aren't going to use it? Broadcast will never use it.
post #56 of 369
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Nope....It's the HDA2 that's the problem. However, my HDA1 was OK on HDMI audio as is my Panny Blu Ray player, JVC 5U D-Theater deck, Pioneer 59AVi. All provide audio via HDMI through my Halcro processor.


I will keep saying it HDMI sucks!
post #57 of 369
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Originally Posted by eric.exe View Post

Then what was the point of adding it if HD optical discs aren't going to use it? Broadcast will never use it.

It will carry Lossless audio, but mostly its a sales gimmick.
J
post #58 of 369
Playstation 3 > Toshiba XA2
post #59 of 369
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Originally Posted by Emotep View Post

Playstation 3 > Toshiba XA2

Based on what?

The PS3 can't even upscale SD-DVDs.

The PS3 doesn't have the class leading de-interlacer and image processor found in the XA2.

The PS3 doesn't have analog outputs for direct output of next generation audio formats like True-HD to seperate audio processors and amplifiers.

About the only thing the PS3 has going for it is that you can play some crummy first generation games that don't hold a candle to the current Xbox 360 offerings.
post #60 of 369
I cannot imagine that the PQ of the XA2 is much better than the A2, why should it? Okay, the XA2 has the Reon, but when you say that the XA2 is a class better, than tell us why.
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