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post #15541 of 16068
1/31/13 at 4:49am
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

whats the audio quality of the upgraded pandora one (which I am a subscriber) it sounds pretty good to my untrained ears...anyone know?

Can't speak about Pandora but Spotify at its highest setting sounds pretty good to me. Its the web broadcasts of the local classical station that are poor to me. Its a shame as they've always been known for the quality of their broadcasts.
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post #15542 of 16068
1/31/13 at 4:54am
oh ok...the local boradcasts on the web makes sens. thank for the reply!

I must say the combination of the following:

Changing to PSB front stage
Adding a onkyo 809 per/pro
adding EMOTIVA XPA-5
Pandora ONE radio

has gotten em so back into listening to music! I was like 95% movies 5% music...now I am MUCH closer to 50/50 probably 65/45 biggrin.gif
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post #15543 of 16068
1/31/13 at 6:03am
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

whats the audio quality of the upgraded pandora one (which I am a subscriber) it sounds pretty good to my untrained ears...anyone know?

Not an expert here, However, I thought the biggie for upgraded Pandora was to avoid commercials.

The free version is superior to FM. IMO.
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post #15544 of 16068
1/31/13 at 6:18am
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Originally Posted by MUDCAT45 View Post

Not an expert here, However, I thought the biggie for upgraded Pandora was to avoid commercials.

The free version is superior to FM. IMO.

yes and it also has higher quality stream they actually have a comparison track you can click to hear the difference....its only .10 a day so i figured it was worth it smile.gif I wish spotify wasnt so expensive
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post #15545 of 16068
1/31/13 at 6:31am
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

First time in the Emotiva thread. Possibly looking into the xpa-3 or xpa-5. I have a Marantz SR5007 for my AVR. Definitive Technology 8060 front towers, 8040 center channel, 8040 surrounds, and pro monitor 1000's for front highs. And of course my trusty hsu vtf-15h sitting in the corner, but thats irrelevant to my questions or rather looking for your feedback. I am surely new into all this but have been reading tons of info on numerous topics of home theater. I think I am interested in the xpa-5 to run my front L/R, center and front high speakers. At first I thought my pre out options were limited but that was on the previous Marantz 5006 model.

8060 towers rated at 300 watts. 8040 center rated at 200 watts. pro monitor 1000's rated at 200 watts. Does anyone forsee any problems with this? They will all be set at 80hz.

Deftechs tend to be pretty efficient speakers and easy to drive.
What are you lacking now that you think an amp upgrade would solve?
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post #15546 of 16068
1/31/13 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84

First time in the Emotiva thread. Possibly looking into the xpa-3 or xpa-5. I have a Marantz SR5007 for my AVR. Definitive Technology 8060 front towers, 8040 center channel, 8040 surrounds, and pro monitor 1000's for front highs. And of course my trusty hsu vtf-15h sitting in the corner, but thats irrelevant to my questions or rather looking for your feedback. I am surely new into all this but have been reading tons of info on numerous topics of home theater. I think I am interested in the xpa-5 to run my front L/R, center and front high speakers. At first I thought my pre out options were limited but that was on the previous Marantz 5006 model.

8060 towers rated at 300 watts. 8040 center rated at 200 watts. pro monitor 1000's rated at 200 watts. Does anyone forsee any problems with this? They will all be set at 80hz.

Deftechs tend to be pretty efficient speakers and easy to drive.
What are you lacking now that you think an amp upgrade would solve?

The towers and center are rated a 92db and the pro monitor at 91db...I guess I am not totally sure what I am trying to solve. I have read all about the wattage and db increase relations. IT just seems if I gave the speakers 200 watts rather than 55-60 that my AVR does with all 7 channels driven then they would come alive a bit more. I have some nice Boston speakers in my truck. I ran them off of my deck for awhile then got a Diamond audio amp and gave them 70 watts rather than 14 the deck offered. They just seemed to come alive more. Also I do like to watch a good movie and crank the volume and listen to music not at ear bleeding level but loud. Would this not also be easier on the avr? the health of it etc. I am just thinking out loud here and I am sure my inexperience bleeds through. Thanks for comments!
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post #15547 of 16068
1/31/13 at 8:14am
take a look over at the Emotiva forum and see if any of the used sales catches your eye.
It is an inexpensive way to try a XPA-5.
Emotiva transfers warranty, so that is something to consider.
Cheaper than going new and you can always resell if it doesn't work out.
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post #15548 of 16068
1/31/13 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

take a look over at the Emotiva forum and see if any of the used sales catches your eye.
It is an inexpensive way to try a XPA-5.
Emotiva transfers warranty, so that is something to consider.
Cheaper than going new and you can always resell if it doesn't work out.

exactly what I did...got an xpa-5 with 3 months left on warranty for 500$ shipped...they sell FAST so you have to be pon the lookout (but thats good news if you want to sell yoursefl)...just make sure they always have the original boxes (both double boxed boxes)

there is one on there now for 660$ shipped I think ....but you can do better if you wait
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post #15549 of 16068
1/31/13 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

take a look over at the Emotiva forum and see ...

Where is the Emotiva forum?
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post #15550 of 16068
1/31/13 at 11:02am
Go to emotiva.com. Look at the top bar. Click on community
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post #15551 of 16068
1/31/13 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by theSeaHawk View Post

Where is the Emotiva forum?

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/
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post #15552 of 16068
1/31/13 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I don't. They are obsolete for most here in the US.
Radio stations are available from the network if you want them.

Most poeple do not want commercials so they seek other sources.


- Rich

We have public radio stations in Flanders with limited commercials. They hold like 80% of the audience share. I listen in the car and at work. At home, I usualy start with Radio to hear the news, but when I'm fed up with the commercials (my treshold is low), I cherry pick from my vast digital collection...

From travels, I know German radio is very good indeed (that supprises you, huh?), Holland so so, France and Italy totally hopeless. In UK, it depends: fine in London area, annoying elsewhere in the country (my hate for Lady Gaga origins in having to listen to one of her ****** hits every half hour when commuting to Cornwall a few years ago).

In Australia, a few good ones are to be found. But they even had religious stations, which hardly exists in EU. Hate religion more than the Gaga slut.

I even bought a fine Yamaha T2 FM-only tuner recently to use in my stereo set-up. The avarage 96 or 128 kbps internet (or satellite, or DAB, all the same crappy SQ) radio station is unlistenable to my ears. FM is far better. 320 kbps would suit me fine, but I don't see much happening there.
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post #15553 of 16068
1/31/13 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

Most people I know in the "real world" still listen to the radio. I listen to classical music radio in my vehicle. I occasionally listen to HD FM classical radio and jazz at home. Internet radio tends to be poorer quality than broadcast with bit rates of 64k and 128k especially when compared with the high quality public classical stations here in Minnesota. We here on AVS tend to be on the "bleeding edge" and see it as the norm. I would agree that radio is on the way out what with Spotify and Pandora. I think younger people are "ahead of the curve" regarding non-radio sources.
+1

Wished there was more Jazz on the Radio.
Know any high quality Jazz stations on the internet? Like 256-320 kbps?
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post #15554 of 16068
1/31/13 at 11:57am
So nobody forsees any problem running an XPA-5 to def tech 8040 center and pro monitor 1000's? they are both rated 20-200 watts. Both will be crossed over at 80hz.
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post #15555 of 16068
1/31/13 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by erwinfrombelgium View Post

From travels, I know German radio is very good indeed (that supprises you, huh?), Holland so so, France and Italy totally hopeless. In UK, it depends: fine in London area, annoying elsewhere in the country (my hate for Lady Gaga origins in having to listen to one of her ****** hits every half hour when commuting to Cornwall a few years ago).
 

 

In the UK the best idea is to get a DAB radio in the car - then you can pick up all the London stations no matter where you are in the country. Provincial commercial radio in the UK sucks..

 

Agree with you re DAB audio quality compared to FM - but it's OK in the car I find.

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post #15556 of 16068
1/31/13 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

So nobody forsees any problem running an XPA-5 to def tech 8040 center and pro monitor 1000's? they are both rated 20-200 watts. Both will be crossed over at 80hz.

 

Should be fine - what problem did you think you might encounter?

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post #15557 of 16068
1/31/13 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84

So nobody forsees any problem running an XPA-5 to def tech 8040 center and pro monitor 1000's? they are both rated 20-200 watts. Both will be crossed over at 80hz.

Should be fine - what problem did you think you might encounter?

None in mind. I'm just fairly new in my journey to sonic euphoria so the I am still learning everything. smile.gif
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post #15558 of 16068
1/31/13 at 12:59pm
^intitally I was thinking if it was too much power for the speakers. The guy I bought from said he had a guy run 300 watts to the def tech towers like I have and it blew the midrange drivers. He was listening to jazz at loud volume...
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post #15559 of 16068
1/31/13 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

^intitally I was thinking if it was too much power for the speakers. The guy I bought from said he had a guy run 300 watts to the def tech towers like I have and it blew the midrange drivers. He was listening to jazz at loud volume...

 

You are always better off having too much power rather than not enough. If you have too little then you are in danger of overdriving your amp and running it into clipping when you want it loud - and clipping can destroy your speakers. OTOH, if you have lashings of power then you avoid this danger and unless you are deaf you will hear your speakers distorting and complaining long before you damage them. Also remember that the difference between 200 watts and 400 watts is just 3dB. So there may have been other reasons the midrange drivers blew in those speakers.  Long story short - err on the side of too much power not too little.

 

Also remember that the speaker manufacturer is usually talking about continuous sine wave power handling capability when offering a power handling spec. This means that the speaker can handle x watts with a sine wave for an extended period. Nobody listens like that in the real world and on almost all content your amp will be loping along most of the time at a few watts. Having the reserves of power available for the required headroom (to enable you to reproduce the wide dynamic range of most real content) is always going to give you a more relaxed, less distorted sound.

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post #15560 of 16068
1/31/13 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by erwinfrombelgium View Post


Wished there was more Jazz on the Radio.
Know any high quality Jazz stations on the internet? Like 256-320 kbps?

The subscription version of JazzRadio.com, which gets you sky.fm, too.
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post #15561 of 16068
1/31/13 at 2:52pm
Jlpowell I run the xpa-5 to my def tec 7002 system and it kicks ass. No problems with my center or rears.
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post #15562 of 16068
2/7/13 at 11:54am
what do you emotiva guys think of these amps?

http://www.crownaudio.com/xls-series.html
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post #15563 of 16068
2/7/13 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

what do you emotiva guys think of these amps?

http://www.crownaudio.com/xls-series.html

 

I have a Crown XLS1000 which is a different looking amp to the XLS models you linked to, but probably pretty similar. Mine is terrific. I bought it to drive a Buttkicker but I have also tested it as a stereo amp with my usual stereo speakers and it was also terrific in that role. One potential downside on my model is that it is fan cooled and some people may find the fan noise intrusive (I don't and in any case my gear is in a separate closet outside my HT). However, I see from the spec of the linked unit that they are convection-cooled so that possible issue is out of the way.

 

Crown amps have a good reputation and they have good power outputs for the money. I would probably be just as happy using 5 of my XLS1000 amps as I am using my Emo amps. Oh - another possible issue for some is that mine does not have a 12v trigger so powering on is manual or you have to find an alternative way to auto-power them (intelligent power strip maybe). I just leave mine switched on permanently. Other than that, well, amps are amps...

 

EDIT: I may have misread the specs - the units you are looking at do seem to have fans after all. If the amp will be used within earshot, I'd check the fan noise isn’t an issue for you. FWIW, the fans on mine are very quiet. Some people disable them without problem, but that will depend on how hard you work the amp I guess.

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post #15564 of 16068
2/7/13 at 12:32pm
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I have a Crown XLS1000 which is a different looking amp to the XLS models you linked to, but probably pretty similar. Mine is terrific. I bought it to drive a Buttkicker but I have also tested it as a stereo amp with my usual stereo speakers and it was also terrific in that role. One potential downside on my model is that it is fan cooled and some people may find the fan noise intrusive (I don't and in any case my gear is in a separate closet outside my HT). However, I see from the spec of the linked unit that they are convection-cooled so that possible issue is out of the way.

Crown amps have a good reputation and they have good power outputs for the money. I would probably be just as happy using 5 of my XLS1000 amps as I am using my Emo amps. Oh - another possible issue for some is that mine does not have a 12v trigger so powering on is manual or you have to find an alternative way to auto-power them (intelligent power strip maybe). I just leave mine switched on permanently. Other than that, well, amps are amps...

EDIT: I may have misread the specs - the units you are looking at do seem to have fans after all. If the amp will be used within earshot, I'd check the fan noise isn’t an issue for you. FWIW, the fans on mine are very quiet. Some people disable them without problem, but that will depend on how hard you work the amp I guess.

Nice! Overall Kbarnes what do you think is a good pocket friendly amp? I have looked at a Emotiva xpa-5 and xpa-3. I just seen this thread and they look relatively inexspensive, heck there is an used on on ebay for $155 US. The fan I think would be ok, it can't be terribly loud I would think. I do sit 11 feet from the tv stand that all my equipment is mounted on. Just wanna make sure the system is cold for doing any audyssey calibration. I have a Denon 3313 so I would have to get XLR adapters I beleive. I do have a monster power center that has the auto turn on. But I don't see a problem leaving them on.
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post #15565 of 16068
2/7/13 at 12:39pm
^I just watched a couple you tube vids. Those fans sounded like a vaccum cleaner!
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post #15566 of 16068
2/7/13 at 1:08pm
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I have a Crown XLS1000 which is a different looking amp to the XLS models you linked to, but probably pretty similar. Mine is terrific. I bought it to drive a Buttkicker but I have also tested it as a stereo amp with my usual stereo speakers and it was also terrific in that role. One potential downside on my model is that it is fan cooled and some people may find the fan noise intrusive (I don't and in any case my gear is in a separate closet outside my HT). However, I see from the spec of the linked unit that they are convection-cooled so that possible issue is out of the way.

Crown amps have a good reputation and they have good power outputs for the money. I would probably be just as happy using 5 of my XLS1000 amps as I am using my Emo amps. Oh - another possible issue for some is that mine does not have a 12v trigger so powering on is manual or you have to find an alternative way to auto-power them (intelligent power strip maybe). I just leave mine switched on permanently. Other than that, well, amps are amps...

EDIT: I may have misread the specs - the units you are looking at do seem to have fans after all. If the amp will be used within earshot, I'd check the fan noise isn’t an issue for you. FWIW, the fans on mine are very quiet. Some people disable them without problem, but that will depend on how hard you work the amp I guess.

Nice! Overall Kbarnes what do you think is a good pocket friendly amp? I have looked at a Emotiva xpa-5 and xpa-3. I just seen this thread and they look relatively inexspensive, heck there is an used on on ebay for $155 US. The fan I think would be ok, it can't be terribly loud I would think. I do sit 11 feet from the tv stand that all my equipment is mounted on. Just wanna make sure the system is cold for doing any audyssey calibration. I have a Denon 3313 so I would have to get XLR adapters I beleive. I do have a monster power center that has the auto turn on. But I don't see a problem leaving them on.

 

Emo amps are very good. So are the Crowns.  The fan is definitely not as loud as a vacuum cleaner - I can barely hear mine from 2 feet away in a quiet room. If you want to check out a Crown amp, get it from some place with a good returns policy, like Amazon. Sonically it is as good as any, but you need to listen to the fans for yourself - a YouTube video isn't a reliable guide.

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post #15567 of 16068
2/16/13 at 2:06pm
Is 6 feet too long of a run for connecting preout unbalanced RCA from preamp to my Emotiva Amp?

Unless I feel like rearranging my whole set up to bring my receiver/preamp closer to where my amp will be, I need 6 foot connectors. Just want to see if anyone feels this will be detrimental in any way.

Thanks for your feedback.
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post #15568 of 16068
2/16/13 at 2:11pm
Some of my cables are six feet long and have not given me any problems.
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post #15569 of 16068
2/16/13 at 2:56pm
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Some of my cables are six feet long and have not given me any problems.

Hi Theresa,

I have speaker cables, subwoofer cables and HDMIs that are fairly long as well with no problems that I could detect.

Just not sure if there was a different thought when it comes to cables for connecting to a power amp.
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post #15570 of 16068
2/16/13 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by jvmanolis View Post

Hi Theresa,

I have speaker cables, subwoofer cables and HDMIs that are fairly long as well with no problems that I could detect.

Just not sure if there was a different thought when it comes to cables for connecting to a power amp.

No it won't be a problem.
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