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post #16321 of 17194
Has anyone bought the new xpa2 or xpa5 with the upgrades? It's nice to see they have reinforced the RCA jacks on the back. I own 4 of their amps and my xpa3 has a loose jack.
post #16322 of 17194
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Originally Posted by d_m1010 View Post

Has anyone bought the new xpa2 or xpa5 with the upgrades? It's nice to see they have reinforced the RCA jacks on the back. I own 4 of their amps and my xpa3 has a loose jack.

The rca upgrades are nice but the real nice change is going back to 29dB sensitivity.
Makes it a better match for seperates and their greater output voltage.
post #16323 of 17194
Interesting comment for sure, but I have never had an issue with my rotel pre pro.
post #16324 of 17194
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Originally Posted by d_m1010 View Post

Has anyone bought the new xpa2 or xpa5 with the upgrades? It's nice to see they have reinforced the RCA jacks on the back. I own 4 of their amps and my xpa3 has a loose jack.

So does my UPA700
post #16325 of 17194
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

So does my UPA700

Any of you asked for warranty service?

or are the RCAs not covered?
post #16326 of 17194
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

Any of you asked for warranty service?

or are the RCAs not covered?

I'm sure that loose RCA inputs are covered under warranty. But the shipping costs and the down time of ones system is probably stopping many from shipping their amps back to Emotiva. I wonder if when repairs are made if the RCAs can come loose again. It is good to see Emotiva is installing better grade RCAs on their amps. But the issue of loose RCA inputs has been an issue with Emotiva's amps for quite awhile. I'm still kicking myself for not buying a used XPA-5 off of Audio Circle for $385 shipped due to several loose RCA inputs rolleyes.gif. The amp was under warranty. The seller then lowered the price to I believe $350 but by then it was sold. I would say that was about my biggest screw up in NOT buying a piece of audio gear.

Bill
post #16327 of 17194
I wonder if they will send you the new rca's to replace yourself?
post #16328 of 17194
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Originally Posted by Repdetect View Post

I wonder if they will send you the new rca's to replace yourself?

Just thinking the same thing myself.
post #16329 of 17194
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I'm sure that loose RCA inputs are covered under warranty. But the shipping costs and the down time of ones system is probably stopping many from shipping their amps back to Emotiva. I wonder if when repairs are made if the RCAs can come loose again. It is good to see Emotiva is installing better grade RCAs on their amps. But the issue of loose RCA inputs has been an issue with Emotiva's amps for quite awhile. I'm still kicking myself for not buying a used XPA-5 off of Audio Circle for $385 shipped due to several loose RCA inputs rolleyes.gif. The amp was under warranty. The seller then lowered the price to I believe $350 but by then it was sold. I would say that was about my biggest screw up in NOT buying a piece of audio gear.

Bill

Wow, what a deal for the lucky person who scooped that up.
Even if you don't get the rcas replaced there is always the xlrs you can use.
post #16330 of 17194
hi all. for me I had to send my XPA5 back twice for the rca issue. Now still with little over 2 yrs on warranty. I still got a broken rca ! after second install, was ganna upgrade the wires but stopped. But that one rca still functions sooooo not until something else happens....gonna wait.
post #16331 of 17194
Living in Canada stops me from sending it back. $120 shipping one way. No thanks. The RCA is loose but functions properly on my XPA 3.
post #16332 of 17194
well I had sent my XPA-5 off for repair do a dead surround port, they fixed it but said it was a wire inside connecting the speaker wire terminals to the rca terminal, that had come loose. Have no idea how it could just come loose but it is fixed and back in the rack.
post #16333 of 17194
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

Just thinking the same thing myself.

happened to be on the phone with emo tech support today.

RCA inputs on the xpa-5 are attached directly to the boards so replacing them isn't an option.
post #16334 of 17194
Any idea if they will make a 125W three channel amp? A UPA-300 maybe?
post #16335 of 17194
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Any idea if they will make a 125W three channel amp? A UPA-300 maybe?

No. This has been discussed. There's no point since the XPA-3 was invented to help relieve the strain of mid-priced AVR's leaving them only to power the surrounds. 125 Watt is not enough difference, even if these are real Watts vs the overrated figures of AVR's.
post #16336 of 17194
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Any idea if they will make a 125W three channel amp? A UPA-300 maybe?

I was hoping for at 500x3 @ 8ohms/1000x3 @ 4ohms XPR-3 myself.
post #16337 of 17194
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

I was hoping for at 500x3 @ 8ohms/1000x3 @ 4ohms XPR-3 myself.

Not very likely if you consider the specs of both XPR-5 and XPR-2

XPR-5:
  • $1,999
  • 400W x 5 @ 8ohms or 600W x 5 @ 4ohms (of course all channels driven)
  • 3,300 VA transfo
  • 180,000 storage capacitance


XPR-2:
  • $1,699
  • 600W x 2 @ 8ohms or 1,000W x 2 @ 4ohms
  • 2,500 VA transfo
  • 240,000 storage capacitance


To get the power you want, you'd need the 3,300 VA while the XPA-3 uses a smaller transfo than the XPA-5 (850 vs 1,200). Hence the price difference with the XPR-5 would be rather small. I guess the price could be at least $1,699. While the XPA-3 is $699.
You'd hook up a XPR to a pre-pro or use the AVR in pre-ampmode IMO. Then you'd need a XPR-5, maybe together with a XPR-2 for 7.x (for L+R front). In the latter situation, the center channel (connected to XPR-5) would in effect be tapping more than the 400 W @ 8ohm since the remaining four channels would never ask for so much power.
post #16338 of 17194
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post
 
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Any idea if they will make a 125W three channel amp? A UPA-300 maybe?

I was hoping for at 500x3 @ 8ohms/1000x3 @ 4ohms XPR-3 myself.

 

What application have you got in mind that needs 500 watts per channel?

post #16339 of 17194
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Originally Posted by erwinfrombelgium View Post

No. This has been discussed. There's no point since the XPA-3 was invented to help relieve the strain of mid-priced AVR's leaving them only to power the surrounds. 125 Watt is not enough difference, even if these are real Watts vs the overrated figures of AVR's.

But the XPA-3 is discontinued. I was told that a new 3 channel is in the works, but no specs or release date yet. As of last week there were "a couple" factory refurb XPA-3's available at $100 off retail. You can't get it on the site, you have to call.
post #16340 of 17194
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Originally Posted by Caspyr View Post

But the XPA-3 is discontinued. I was told that a new 3 channel is in the works, but no specs or release date yet. As of last week there were "a couple" factory refurb XPA-3's available at $100 off retail. You can't get it on the site, you have to call.

I purchased one of the factory referubed units in April and it works great. It has the same warranty
post #16341 of 17194
Advice on Integrating Sherbourn Pre-1 into my HT:

I am a recent owner of an XPA-5 which I am enjoying quite a lot. During the recent Sherbourn fire-sale, I also picked up a Sherbourn PA 7-150 amp. and a Sherbourn Pre-1 pre-amp.. The XPA-5 is currently servicing an all Polk-audio LSIM based HT speaker system, with an Onkyo 818 already serving as a Pre-pro... My question is whether there is place in that configuration for the Sherbourn Pre-1 at all, or whether it would be superfluous. The Pre-1 is the first pre-amp that I have ever purchased, so please cut me some slack if I am sounding somewhat ignorant about basic functions of pre-amps.

I gathered from the little research I did before purchasing the Pre-1 that I could possibly integrate it into my Onkyo receiver + XPA-5 grid as the hub of an independent set-up dedicated to 2.1 channel music (the pre-1 does not have bass management, but that could be handled by sub attached to the Onkyo, at least in theory, but correct me if I am wrong)... This was all supposed to work quite well, because the PRE-1 has HT pass-through, and defeatable tone controls...

Now, my PRE-1 is here, and all of a sudden, I realize I have no idea how to implement my plan of incorporating it into my rig, or whether it is feasible at all, as everything I have outlined above was hastily conceived in theory, when I saw the price of the clearance sale pre-1.

In short, I need suggestions as to how best to set up this configuration. At best, the Pre-1 ought to find its place in the following set of components:

1. Onkyo 818 receiver
2. Emotiva XPA-5
3. Polk LSIM 703 Fronts, 704c center, 702 f/x surrounds, and 505 sub.
4. Miscellaneous music sources: CD player, Blu ray player, Playstation 3, HTPC, Apple TV. Roku 3 (maybe even a turntable)

I did mention purchasing the Sherbourn PA 7-150, but that is meant for another HT rig altogether, so it should not be factored into the above set up.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. If the Pre-1 does not fit well, I could just sell it, but I am sure you guys can help me come up with some role for the Pre-1 in the system to generate some kick-ass 2.1 channel music. Thanks again.
post #16342 of 17194
you could set it up on a Record Out loop if you had a 2 channel amp and separate speakers to run. As you've laid it out, there doesn't seem to be much use for it.
post #16343 of 17194
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Originally Posted by PGT FTW View Post

you could set it up on a Record Out loop if you had a 2 channel amp and separate speakers to run. As you've laid it out, there doesn't seem to be much use for it.

Well, this is from the Pre-1's manual, and it concerns the HT Bypass function, which I read before buying the unit:

"HT INPUT
Connects to an external multi-channel, or 'home theater'
processor using standard RCA type analog connectors.
Connect left, right, and subwoofer (if your front speakers
are not full range) analog outputs on the processor to the
PRE-1 HT inputs. When the HT BYPASS button is
selected, all PRE-1 functions are disabled, and it becomes
a pass-through for the connected external processor. The
HT inputs are only active when the PRE-1 is on."

I was thinking that the external "Home theater" processor being referred to could be the Onkyo 818, which would take over the role of main pre-amp (for 5.1/7.1 multichannel HT action) when the HT-Bypass mode on the pre-1 is engaged. My sense was that the Pre-1 could act as the pre-amp for 2-channel music when the HT bypass mode is not engaged, but I could be wrong... Don't know.
post #16344 of 17194
I have a set of recently acquired Energy Veritas (V2.3i, V2.0Ci, V2.0Ri) speakers that I do like, but didn't really meet my high initial expectations. I am wondering if an XPA-3 is the answer. The speakers are currently being driven by a Denon AVR-3312. I have never had a dedicated power amp before and I don't want to pay $700 for a marginal upgrade.

What say you?
Edited by brendelac - 9/11/13 at 9:38pm
post #16345 of 17194
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I have a set of recently acquired Energy Veritas (V2.3i, V2.0Ci, V2.0Ri) speakers that I do like, but didn't really meet my high initial expectations. I am wondering if an XPA-3 is the answer. The speakers are currently being driven by a Denon AVR-3312. I have never had a dedicated power amp before and I don't want to pay $700 for a marginal upgrade.

What say you?
I say give it a try as long as emo has a return policy then if your not happy you'll probably just get stuck with shipping . Normally my experience with a propper set up system you should notice a wider sound stage at least I did with my setup and room going to seperates .
post #16346 of 17194
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Originally Posted by Caspyr View Post

But the XPA-3 is discontinued. I was told that a new 3 channel is in the works, but no specs or release date yet. As of last week there were "a couple" factory refurb XPA-3's available at $100 off retail. You can't get it on the site, you have to call.


Is it not replaced by the 2nd gen XPA3?
post #16347 of 17194
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

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Originally Posted by Caspyr View Post

But the XPA-3 is discontinued. I was told that a new 3 channel is in the works, but no specs or release date yet. As of last week there were "a couple" factory refurb XPA-3's available at $100 off retail. You can't get it on the site, you have to call.


Is it not replaced by the 2nd gen XPA3?

As far as I know that is the plan. I know the gen 2 xpa-5 and xpa-2 have been available for several weeks now. I was under the impression that the gen 2 xpa-1 and xpa-3 would be available soon...although "soon" in emo time could be 5 years (xmc-1 anyone tongue.gif).
post #16348 of 17194
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Originally Posted by sahmen View Post

Well, this is from the Pre-1's manual, and it concerns the HT Bypass function, which I read before buying the unit:

"HT INPUT
Connects to an external multi-channel, or 'home theater'
processor using standard RCA type analog connectors.
Connect left, right, and subwoofer (if your front speakers
are not full range) analog outputs on the processor to the
PRE-1 HT inputs. When the HT BYPASS button is
selected, all PRE-1 functions are disabled, and it becomes
a pass-through for the connected external processor. The
HT inputs are only active when the PRE-1 is on."

I was thinking that the external "Home theater" processor being referred to could be the Onkyo 818, which would take over the role of main pre-amp (for 5.1/7.1 multichannel HT action) when the HT-Bypass mode on the pre-1 is engaged. My sense was that the Pre-1 could act as the pre-amp for 2-channel music when the HT bypass mode is not engaged, but I could be wrong... Don't know.

sahmen.

Although I have no experience with the Pre-1 you are correct that you can use it the way you described. I have a Parasound 2100 preamp that has HT Bypass and I'm using it as described above. The one big advantage that the 2100 has over the Pre-1 and the Emotiva USP-1 is that the 2100 doesn't have to be on to use the HT Bypass feature. In other words when the 2100 is off it allows the signal from my Denon 4311 to be passed when I use the 4311 for TV, movies or multi-channel music. Does the Pre-1's manual show the correct way to connect it when used in a HT system? If not here is a link to the 2100 manual and on page 8 it shows how to connect the 2100 in a HT system. It should be similar to the Pre-1.

Bill
post #16349 of 17194
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

sahmen.

Although I have no experience with the Pre-1 you are correct that you can use it the way you described. I have a Parasound 2100 preamp that has HT Bypass and I'm using it as described above. The one big advantage that the 2100 has over the Pre-1 and the Emotiva USP-1 is that the 2100 doesn't have to be on to use the HT Bypass feature. In other words when the 2100 is off it allows the signal from my Denon 4311 to be passed when I use the 4311 for TV, movies or multi-channel music. Does the Pre-1's manual show the correct way to connect it when used in a HT system? If not here is a link to the 2100 manual and on page 8 it shows how to connect the 2100 in a HT system. It should be similar to the Pre-1.

Bill

Bill, I thought you got rid of the 2100.
Did you get another one?
post #16350 of 17194
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Originally Posted by bootman_head_fi View Post

Bill, I thought you got rid of the 2100.
Did you get another one?

boot,

Yes I did get another one. I found one here on the AVS classifieds and went for it. I just like using an analog preamp for some reason. I like the 4311 with Audyssey (flat) for movies and multi-channel music. But for stereo music I prefer the 2100. It might be all my head but thats OK smile.gif.

Bill
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