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post #121 of 203
6/17/08 at 6:01am
I don't think so it created problem to you..But i prefer to install your LCD left or right of the
Fireplace. It would be good for you.
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post #122 of 203
7/17/08 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by dealkb View Post

I got my 50" Panasonic plasma mounted above the mental. It was decided first day I bought the new house. So I can planned out early. I picked the lowest mental the builder offer. And I put in built in power and cable tube behind wall plus two pieces solid wood for wall mount bracket place behind wall above and under power/cable tube (so not restrict to stud). My old house, I put a 36" Sony wega TV above fire place (a large cavity just fit for Sony 36" TV). Wow, is it comfortable, I was worried before when I put my Sony up high. So here is my take:
1) viewing distance (as far as possible, i.e. > 9 foot at least)
2) height of mental (as low as possible when it still look good)
3) high back sofa, if it can pull out and recline, this would be idea (all my sofa can pull out and recline, you can rest you leg too. It can recline to nearly 180 degree if you want and they are all high back so you can rest your head on back even you sit straight)
4) Tilt wall mount (not for normal TV like Sony wega CRT)

If you have all these, go ahead. The finish is a absolute stunning. And this is a trend now for new houses. I attached 2 photoes. One is my living room and the other was builder's model home (the biggest builder in my city). You will love the set up. I have more than 30 cables behind the wall through the build in tube all the way to the build in cabinet at right. You can not see a single cable from the front. And when I use sd card slot to play 1920x1080 photoes (i.e. animal, natural view, stars), my friends would look and "wow" and glued in front of my TV.

By saying all these, the ideal viewing height is best put the TV on top of a TV stand if you can.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...0&d=1209715230

What kind of sound system is that in the first pic? I have a similar setup in my house with wiring for speakers coming out of the ceiling.
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post #123 of 203
7/18/08 at 8:50pm
My dad's setup.
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post #124 of 203
8/22/08 at 6:58am
I am trying to mount a 52" Phillips LCD (just purchase3d from Costco) above my fireplace. The fireplace is full brick/ masonary. My contractor mounted the Simplity (model SL1) swivel tv mount I bought from Costco a while back ( $200 - $40 = $160) The box says it's fot tv's 30"- 55" and up to 150lbs. The TV is abiut 95lbs.

Upon reading the wall mount manual (now that I actually have the tv), it states that "...product is designed for use in wood stud walls only! The wall must be capable of supporting up to 5 times the weight and monitor combined".

Am I asking for trouble by putting the tv on this mount? Any ideas?

Thanks!
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post #125 of 203
8/31/08 at 11:50pm
If you talk to a professional, it seems that the problem with mounting height over a fireplace isn't that difficult to overcome. I bought a Pioneer PDP-6020FD KURO 60" Plasma. It is going to installed next month over the fireplace. I searched the web and this forum to find the solution but it wasn't really clear until I talked to a Home Theater professional. My 60" plasma is one of the largest and heaviest that he would consider trying his tried and sure solution. He says just install a heavy duty full motion fully articulating extendable wall mount with dual arms which you can get for under $100 (see eBay) on the wall. A motorized TV lift is sandwiched between the mount and the Vesa compatible plate (about $450 to $600 with remote, see Google) but upside down so instead of lifting up, it will drop down. The lift will actually move far more than you need it to so a limit screw is set at the optimum viewing height. The center spreaker is installed above the panel either when its up or after its dropped down. The only precaution is to make sure that the flat panel is extended out far enough so that it clears the mantel before lowering. I will post after this simple solution is installed to let everyone know what its like to live with.
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post #126 of 203
9/1/08 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by Givemealuenski View Post

If you talk to a professional, it seems that the problem with mounting height over a fireplace isn't that difficult to overcome. I bought a Pioneer PDP-6020FD KURO 60" Plasma. It is going to installed next month over the fireplace. I searched the web and this forum to find the solution but it wasn't really clear until I talked to a Home Theater professional. My 60" plasma is one of the largest and heaviest that he would consider trying his tried and sure solution. He says just install a heavy duty full motion fully articulating extendable wall mount with dual arms which you can get for under $100 (see eBay) on the wall. A motorized TV lift is sandwiched between the mount and the Vesa compatible plate (about $450 to $600 with remote, see Google) but upside down so instead of lifting up, it will drop down. The lift will actually move far more than you need it to so a limit screw is set at the optimum viewing height. The center spreaker is installed above the panel either when its up or after its dropped down. The only precaution is to make sure that the flat panel is extended out far enough so that it clears the mantel before lowering. I will post after this simple solution is installed to let everyone know what its like to live with.

I was thinking about such a solution the other day. Please post some pics when you have it working.
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post #127 of 203
10/5/08 at 8:53am
My nephew just moved into his new house. His TV is above the fireplace and the house came prewired for that and also surround sound. I thought it would not be comfortable to look up but the overall configuration of the room caused the seating distance to be quite far so that wasn't a big drawback.

And that is my principal issue. There's that infamous chart that most of know about the tries to predict what we can and cannot see based upon screen size and viewing distance. My nephew has a forty in class 1080p LCD and I don't believe I can see any advantage to that kind of TV from where I was seated.

--- CHAS
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post #128 of 203
10/25/08 at 2:00pm
Here is mine in my small las vegas condo. I have no problem at all looking up slightly. My mount is not fully articulating but will tilt down slightly.



Perry
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post #129 of 203
10/26/08 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by leongs View Post

I just hanged the 55" Hitachi above the fireplace and adjust the eyes for viewing


A good example on bad speaker placement due to high mount.

My friend has a plasma over the fireplace...sucks if you ask me...way too high.

With a bose surround system to boot!
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post #130 of 203
12/2/08 at 4:18am
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Originally Posted by Givemealuenski View Post

If you talk to a professional, it seems that the problem with mounting height over a fireplace isn't that difficult to overcome. I bought a Pioneer PDP-6020FD KURO 60" Plasma. It is going to installed next month over the fireplace. I searched the web and this forum to find the solution but it wasn't really clear until I talked to a Home Theater professional. My 60" plasma is one of the largest and heaviest that he would consider trying his tried and sure solution. He says just install a heavy duty full motion fully articulating extendable wall mount with dual arms which you can get for under $100 (see eBay) on the wall. A motorized TV lift is sandwiched between the mount and the Vesa compatible plate (about $450 to $600 with remote, see Google) but upside down so instead of lifting up, it will drop down. The lift will actually move far more than you need it to so a limit screw is set at the optimum viewing height. The center spreaker is installed above the panel either when its up or after its dropped down. The only precaution is to make sure that the flat panel is extended out far enough so that it clears the mantel before lowering. I will post after this simple solution is installed to let everyone know what its like to live with.

Any pics yet?? This may be the solution I was looking for, please post them up!!
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post #131 of 203
1/19/09 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by k3k3k3 View Post

I don't burn coal or anything like that, so my fireplace has absolutely no radiant heat issues.

I actually did put up a 48 inch mantle from Lowes. That is what the speaker is sitting on in front of the bottom center of the tv. Did it more for aesthetics (and to help conceal the wiring) than for any protection. I guess if my fireplace were to stop drawing properly then it may help deflect heat and smoke away from the bottom of the tv.

Of course my REAL concern would then be that Persian rug

Did you ever measure the temperature above teh fireplace. Is your fireplace vented or ventless? I have a ventless version, so heat pours out the top. I'm going to measure the temperature on my unit tonight with a better IR thermometer, but my first measurements the other night had it over 110F
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post #132 of 203
1/21/09 at 6:58am
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Originally Posted by rjanak View Post

Did you ever measure the temperature above teh fireplace. Is your fireplace vented or ventless? I have a ventless version, so heat pours out the top. I'm going to measure the temperature on my unit tonight with a better IR thermometer, but my first measurements the other night had it over 110F

I'd be interested in your findings & remediation.
I have the same issue & the lesser of 2 evils is to move the mount I guess.
Not my preference tho.
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post #133 of 203
1/21/09 at 7:53am
It's best to have a panel at couch eye level. (heat shield behind maby
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post #134 of 203
1/21/09 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by tripleM View Post

I'd be interested in your findings & remediation.
I have the same issue & the lesser of 2 evils is to move the mount I guess.
Not my preference tho.

I'm following the temperature discussion in another thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post15612676
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post #135 of 203
1/21/09 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by rjanak View Post

I'm following the temperature discussion in another thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post15612676

Thanks.
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post #136 of 203
1/27/09 at 12:25pm
Okay we have TV mounted above fireplace but we have never used fireplace. Will it be safe to use fireplace if TV is mounted above Fireplace ?
Here is link to current install. Do you think it will be issue to use Fireplace if TV is that high ?
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post #137 of 203
1/27/09 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by mjoshi View Post

Okay we have TV mounted above fireplace but we have never used fireplace. Will it be safe to use fireplace if TV is mounted above Fireplace ?
Here is link to current install. Do you think it will be issue to use Fireplace if TV is that high ?

if u don't have a blower, that could be a problem for heat to rise.
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post #138 of 203
1/29/09 at 9:09am
In most cases, mounting the display over a fireplace is not a good idea for two reasons. First, viweving a display well above eye level will result in sore necks over time, unless it is viewed from a long distance, and that, in turn, would defeat the purpose of the large display! Second, the heat from the fireplace may shorten the life of certain components used in the panel. And there could be a build-up of smoke residue inside the set over time.
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post #139 of 203
1/29/09 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by HarrisonS View Post

In most cases, mounting the display over a fireplace is not a good idea for two reasons. First, viweving a display well above eye level will result in sore necks over time, unless it is viewed from a long distance, and that, in turn, would defeat the purpose of the large display!

I disagree with this part.
Primarily because every1's viewing acuity & comfort is different.
So while you may like to sit & watch a 50" flat panel from 5ft, doesn't mean every1 will find it as comfortable as you -regardless if it's displayed @ eye level or not.
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post #140 of 203
2/3/09 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by mjoshi View Post

Okay we have TV mounted above fireplace but we have never used fireplace. Will it be safe to use fireplace if TV is mounted above Fireplace ?
Here is link to current install. Do you think it will be issue to use Fireplace if TV is that high ?

Looks very nice. I have mine above my fireplace with no problems at all. The only thing I would have done different was to install a mantle that could deflect the heat from the TV.
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post #141 of 203
2/3/09 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by HarrisonS View Post

In most cases, mounting the display over a fireplace is not a good idea for two reasons. First, viweving a display well above eye level will result in sore necks over time, unless it is viewed from a long distance, and that, in turn, would defeat the purpose of the large display! Second, the heat from the fireplace may shorten the life of certain components used in the panel. And there could be a build-up of smoke residue inside the set over time.

I disagree with this also. Neither me, my wife or children have any "neck problems" or "sore necks" as a result of the TV above the fireplace. Second, if properly installed with a mantle there should be no danger to the TV and will not "shorten the life" of it (I have a direct vent fireplace with a blower).
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post #142 of 203
2/10/09 at 10:52am
anyone have pics of a family room or area with a fireplace where the LCD/Plasma is mounted on a different wall adjacent to or opposite the fireplace??? I really don't wish to mount my TV above the fireplace and trying to get some ideas... thanks
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post #143 of 203
2/18/09 at 7:58pm
anyone have any good pics of their a/v gear by the fireplace? over the FP was the best placement choice aesthetically, but i need to do something about my gear.
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post #144 of 203
3/25/09 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by mjoshi View Post

Okay we have TV mounted above fireplace but we have never used fireplace. Will it be safe to use fireplace if TV is mounted above Fireplace ?
Here is link to current install. Do you think it will be issue to use Fireplace if TV is that high ?

Why don't you put your TV at the right side of fireplace?
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post #145 of 203
4/16/09 at 9:10am
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Originally Posted by dealkb View Post

Why don't you put your TV at the right side of fireplace?

I like it over the fireplace! If he put it to the right, it wouldn't look good.
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post #146 of 203
5/5/09 at 4:22am
to me it would be kind of a pain to have to look upward when watching TV.
I like to look straight forward.
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post #147 of 203
5/9/09 at 11:10am
Does anyone have a suggestions for a wall mount manufacturer that can handle the weight safely with only a single stud. Apparently, I have 1 stud in the middle and then its about 22" in either direction for the next stud. I have found a Chief 'MTR' and an Omni 'U3T' with some research. TV is about 95lbs.
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post #148 of 203
6/5/09 at 11:29pm
Like many in this thread, I find mounts over the fireplace to be just too high. I tend to get a little neck strain after awhile.
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post #149 of 203
6/11/09 at 12:14pm
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Originally Posted by rolesium View Post

Like many in this thread, I find mounts over the fireplace to be just too high. I tend to get a little neck strain after awhile.

Not only that, it's not natural. One has to suspend disbelief that much more because the real world is not observed by looking up. Over the FP just feels like a bad idea, or at a minimum, a space compromise. Bad feung shwei?

I also don't like my TV hanging on a wall like a picture; I prefer it away from the wall on a stand (but then I really don't like any furniture up against a wall; I prefer to have large rooms and create intimate seating arrangements in the middle of the room, which also makes AC power a problem).

What I am really waiting for is the "coffee table/HDTV" where when you push a button on the remote, the top tilts up (that is if no items are sensed to be resting on the flat surface) and it becomes a FP TV and stand all together. When down, it can be a coffee table with a built in screensaver .

I took great pains to make sure my TV bought in 2004 was centered at seated eye height, which is important, and much more important in this case because it was a RP microdisplay. It was not easy to find a stand that was actually low enough (15") and wide enough (65"-wide for a 60" Sony with floating speaker wings) all at the same time.
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post #150 of 203
6/15/09 at 3:21pm
If you get the proper seating, a mount over the fireplace can be very comfortable to watch. I use chairs similar to these:
http://www.relaxtheback.com/human-to...roduct-6367973

And here is my fireplace set up, with VisionArt retractible art work.
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