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post #181 of 279
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Originally Posted by xedap1998 View Post

really? i wasnt aware of that. Can you kinda point me to the right forum?

My guess is you need to contact the forum owners, and ask them. They have a marketplace area, but that is not for trying to setup something like a group buy, it is for the actual offer of selling items by both private parties and dealers.
post #182 of 279
No1 ever set up a group buy on here before?
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post #184 of 279
After several months of searching i have found a mount that work perfectly for the fireplace. It come out and drop down to eye level..Perfect solutions for fireplace mounting. Does anyone in here have any regret mounting the tv on top of the fireplace?
post #185 of 279
I mounted my PDP above the fireplace in my Great Room. It looks awesome. And I've discovered I actually prefer it being elevated as opposed to eye level.
post #186 of 279
Just another reason these are a really bad idea;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1349763
post #187 of 279
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Just another reason these are a really bad idea;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1349763

Guess I have no idea what that has to do with this thread? It is a bad mount, so you are saying never mount a TV more then 2' off the floor, but wait a baby could still crawl under it.......
post #188 of 279
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Just another reason these are a really bad idea;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1349763

So you are posting a rant against articulating arm mounts on a thread about whether it is uncomfortable to view a TV above a fireplace (due to the height)?

Most people don't use articulating arm mounts when mounting the TV above their fireplace. They use a standard wall mount. Wall mounts are extremely safe and if properly installed, will never come down. I personally have a TV mounted over my fireplace and having a TV there has given me many years of pleasurable TV viewing. So much so, that this year I replaced my 43" with a 59" Sammy. I also have a 61" mounted at the "proper" height and now find it uncomfortable to view the TV at that height. I find having it higher makes it easier to view in a somewhat reclined viewing position.
post #189 of 279
I have my 59 sammy above my fireplace. No issues for us... and my mount is articulating but built like a tank....and we really have not articulated it... but can if we want.
post #190 of 279
We bought a 70" Sharp Quadtron and wanted a mount that would store up over the fireplace but could move down for a better viewing angle. I found the Dynamic Mounting Down and Out Mount referenced in an AV News Group and decided to give it a try. The angle of the screen in up and down positions are separately adjustable. We hove ours set with a 12-15 degree tilt when up and vertical when down.

We're very pleased with the result. The TV weighs in at 93 pounds and my grand-daughter (who weighs about the same) can raise and lower the TV with ease.

Here are a few pictures of it: pix . simonton . net/v/home_imp/tx_home_imp/tv_mount/

Here's a video of it: www . youtube . com/watch?v=5UFsTYQ5fb8

Here is the manufacturer's site: dynamicmounting . com
post #191 of 279
They sure did figure it out at --DynamicMounting DOT com -- I had done a lot of research trying to figure out how to go about keeping our living room corner fireplace the focal point of the room while being able to enjoy our rockin 60" LG Plasma.

I had seen some instances where people do mount a TV over their fireplace and I really never did like this given that you have to always have you neck tilted up to see the TV but then again, I agree that in most cases it doesn't make sense to have both a fireplace focal point AND a substantial TV competing for dominance over the room.

I'm glad that I found the Dynamic Mounting solution. It is a very sturdy mount that needs to be attached to wall studs. I have cultured stone surrounding my fireplace that go all the way up the wall so what I ended up doing was to remove enough of the stone to reveal enough wall surface to actually attach the Dynaming Mounting mount to the wall. Then I re-layed stone around the contours of the mount and overall it looks very seamless and well finished now that I'm finished.

Like I said...I've got a 60" Plasma that weighs right at 100Lbs and the mount (appropriately attached to wall studs) seems to handle the load just fine. I can now (with relative ease) raise the TV up and out of the way or lower it down in front of the fireplace to a comfortable viewing height. This mount, with is vertical travel, is so unique and the only one of its kind that I was able to find. The people at Dynamic Mounting were easy to work with also.
post #192 of 279
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Originally Posted by sccrmo View Post

They sure did figure it out at --DynamicMounting DOT com -- I had done a lot of research trying to figure out how to go about keeping our living room corner fireplace the focal point of the room while being able to enjoy our rockin 60" LG Plasma.

I had seen some instances where people do mount a TV over their fireplace and I really never did like this given that you have to always have you neck tilted up to see the TV but then again, I agree that in most cases it doesn't make sense to have both a fireplace focal point AND a substantial TV competing for dominance over the room.

I'm glad that I found the Dynamic Mounting solution. It is a very sturdy mount that needs to be attached to wall studs. I have cultured stone surrounding my fireplace that go all the way up the wall so what I ended up doing was to remove enough of the stone to reveal enough wall surface to actually attach the Dynaming Mounting mount to the wall. Then I re-layed stone around the contours of the mount and overall it looks very seamless and well finished now that I'm finished.

Like I said...I've got a 60" Plasma that weighs right at 100Lbs and the mount (appropriately attached to wall studs) seems to handle the load just fine. I can now (with relative ease) raise the TV up and out of the way or lower it down in front of the fireplace to a comfortable viewing height. This mount, with is vertical travel, is so unique and the only one of its kind that I was able to find. The people at Dynamic Mounting were easy to work with also.


But what about the heat that emits from the fireplace?
I would worry about the eat coming & hitting the back of the lowered TV.
post #193 of 279

I posted a photo in this thread when i first set this up.

Yesterday I just got this new tv mounted. Its a slight step up from what I originally had. I'm running a Panasonic TC-P55S30 now, originally a Hitachi P50S601.



This one is about half as deep. The tilting will improve once I get my right angled hdmi adapter...
post #194 of 279
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Originally Posted by tripleM View Post

But what about the heat that emits from the fireplace?
I would worry about the eat coming & hitting the back of the lowered TV.

That's one reason for not putting the TV over the mantle. There are at least three good reasons not to site it there.

1. The heat issue, as mentioned, that might damage the TV; plus the matter of all of the airborne crud that sneaks up and out of the fireplace to dirty up the screen.

2. Looking up at the screen over a fireplace is like sitting in the front row at a movie theater -- not very comfortable

3. Consider how stupid it looks when it is turned off and is sitting sitting there as a blank, gray blob in what might otherwise be a focal point of the room.
post #195 of 279
4. To hard to access the inputs & cables when changes & problem occur (and they will),
5. You have to bury those cables, fish them and hope all of that can be done effectively and be able to repair all the damage to those new chalk & paper walls (drywall).

I wouldn't place anything I can't get at easily. Period!
post #196 of 279
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Originally Posted by Jim Reeve View Post

That's one reason for not putting the TV over the mantle. There are at least three good reasons not to site it there.

1. The heat issue, as mentioned, that might damage the TV; plus the matter of all of the airborne crud that sneaks up and out of the fireplace to dirty up the screen.

2. Looking up at the screen over a fireplace is like sitting in the front row at a movie theater -- not very comfortable

3. Consider how stupid it looks when it is turned off and is sitting sitting there as a blank, gray blob in what might otherwise be a focal point of the room.

1) Have wood burning fire place that use very regual and no issues with heat to the TV, been that way for 3 years now. So check that one off your list.

2) Could be depending on how close you are to the TV. For us we are far enough away not to be an issue. Took a little getting use to but it frees up a ton of floor space not having another piece of furnature for the TV and equipment.

3) No stupider then anywhere else. Actually when we have get togethers we play screen savers with high quality art or family pictures. Every one loves seeing it scroll through old family stuff.

4) Never taken it down since putting it up, 3 years again.

5) Cabling all ran through a 2-1/2" conduit behind the TV. Zero cable mess to look at, looks way better then most I see sitting on a TV stand with a wad of cables behind it.
post #197 of 279
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Originally Posted by Jim Reeve View Post

That's one reason for not putting the TV over the mantle. There are at least three good reasons not to site it there.

1. The heat issue, as mentioned, that might damage the TV; plus the matter of all of the airborne crud that sneaks up and out of the fireplace to dirty up the screen.

2. Looking up at the screen over a fireplace is like sitting in the front row at a movie theater -- not very comfortable

3. Consider how stupid it looks when it is turned off and is sitting sitting there as a blank, gray blob in what might otherwise be a focal point of the room.

1) The heat is usually NOT an issue unless you are misusing your fireplace or have a problem with it. Yes some (a little) more cleaning is needed but you are way off base (does the wall paint above the fireplace need painting every month / year? - NO it does not - Does the white ceiling paint get black and cruddy quickly - NO it does not.

2)WRONG again. Front row at theater and distance to screen and height of screen would put you at ~ 56.3 to 68.2 degrees. (20' out by 30' up to 12' out) yet above the fireplace is ~ 29.7 to 38.6 degrees (10' out by 8' high to 14' out). Thats a HUGE difference.

3) Mine looks awesome - received many compliments. Yes that is a PREFERENCE thing and you may not agree but its NOT a reason to not put it there if you dont agree (or even if you do and need the room).
post #198 of 279
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

4. To hard to access the inputs & cables when changes & problem occur (and they will),
5. You have to bury those cables, fish them and hope all of that can be done effectively and be able to repair all the damage to those new chalk & paper walls (drywall).

I wouldn't place anything I can't get at easily. Period!

4) Too hard? Your set is an OUTPUT device. What does it need? HDMI. Access is easy from many mounts (easier than the 6 other HDTVs I have). What problems will occur with the cable? I have had many problems with devices none with a quality cable.

5) Yes you do. Yes it will take a little effort and time to do it right. Once done it looks AWESOME, and is easy to work with ( How do they get the water from your bathroom to the outside? PVC pipe (could be something else if older but you should get the point). Those are likely in everyone's walls but somehow it cant be done for this? You only have to go up the wall in between studs and then 90 degree turn and go through maybe 3 studs. Not a huge project and the result is neater than most I have seen with displays on tables. Now if you don't have power up there that is also some work but well worth it. Certainly not something that would rely on HOPE its pretty easy and almost a certain positive outcome.
post #199 of 279
The Down-And-Out mount is really intriguing. It seems like the best of both worlds solution. I'm not worried about the heat (we wouldn't have the TV down with a fire on). I just have one question:

What do you do with the center channel speaker?
post #200 of 279
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Originally Posted by jack1323 View Post

The Down-And-Out mount is really intriguing. It seems like the best of both worlds solution. I'm not worried about the heat (we wouldn't have the TV down with a fire on). I just have one question:

What do you do with the center channel speaker?

That's a good question. Mounting above a fireplace can limit your HTS setup as well as the use of a bias light (the red framing around the tv will limit the use of a bias light anyway).
post #201 of 279
It will help if your seating reclines. I have a 50" plasma mounted above my fireplace with a Vienna Waltz Grand CC sitting on the mantle below the screen.
The main listening position is currently about 13' from the screen, it's comfortable as long as I'm leaning back a little. Much closer and it's hard on the neck.
Sometimes you just have to make do with what you have.
post #202 of 279
I installed our 42" panny plasma above our fireplace around 15 months ago. no problems yet. Luckily there is a wall cavity in front of the chimney stack, so I could hide all the cables. I used a Carlon SC300PRB recessed box for electrical and a/v jacks. Here are a couple pictures (I have since installed the electrical outlets).
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post #203 of 279
There is a fireplace mount made now that will lower and raise 30 inches if the depth of the mantel is around 4". It is made for mounting above the fireplace mantel and at times it could be mounted in a room the has a mid level beam. The mantel depth does affect the downward travel distance of the fireplace mount. Take for instance if the mantel depth is 12 inches the amount of travel would be reduce to around 24" downward.

This fireplace mount has a tension system built into the bracket assembly it that allows the TV mount to hang just off the mantel itself which is good so it does not scratch the finish. When not in use you can raise the TV mount up and it will rest in the home position. Other things to consider when purchasing a fireplace TV mount is how much clearance you have above the mantel and ceiling as well as how large of a flat panel TV you will be mounting.

The bracket does have a minimum height above the mantel to allow it to achieve it fully lowering potential. This fireplace TV mounting bracket helps reduce neck strain when looking up to watch your favorite show or movie. I hope this helps if you have questions write me back for more information about the mounts specifications.
post #204 of 279
I finally got my 80" mounted and sit about 14 ft away. This thing looks sweet. Replaced my 60" vizio plasma and I used the same mount I had for the old tv.
http://simplicity.sanus.com/index.php/us/en/products/tilting-mount/SXDP3





Now I'm having one issue. I need to get more "tilt" for 3d only. When seated in the couch the 3D is a little blurry and has slight doubling. If I start to sit up it gets perfectly clear. I know this is an issue with passive 3d if you are more than 20 degrees below the TV. I have to figure out a way to get more tilt. It's already on a tilt mount, but not enough tilt. Any ideas?

2d viewing is perfect and no complaints.
Edited by Jasonn B - 10/11/13 at 1:09pm
post #205 of 279

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I think that putting a big chunk of electronics over something that's meant to be as beautifully picturesque as a fireplace is a passing fad.  It's already passed from different to been done, and now it's just jarring IMO.  And it's much worse now that the TVs are the same size or larger than the fireplace + mantel they're over.

 

I'm betting in 10-20 years we'll look back at this the way we do now at mullets, car bras, and people walking around the mall with a bluetooth headset sticking out of their ear.

</DriveByShooting>

post #206 of 279
I currently have the TV over fireplace setup, have been looking at downsizing now that our kids are both in college. We love an open floor plan and prefer having the HT setup integrated there as opposed to a dedicated media room. I really want to get away from having the monitor over the mantle.
Even here in S. Texas, almost every great room has the fireplace as the focal point, even though it would only get used a few days a year.
A real estate agent told my wife that the TV over FP setup is "in" right now.
post #207 of 279
I don't know how you guys get used to having the tv up so high in the air. Don't you get sore always having to crane your neck to watch the tv? Personally I like the tv to be about 20" off the ground.
post #208 of 279
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Originally Posted by MediaFan63 View Post

I don't know how you guys get used to having the tv up so high in the air. Don't you get sore always having to crane your neck to watch the tv? Personally I like the tv to be about 20" off the ground.

Actually you get use to it. It bothered me for maybe the first week. Now I never even think about it anymore, just seems natural. Plus the kids can't get their fingures on it.
post #209 of 279
You have a good point about the kids toys. I threw a large marble at my brother when we were kids and it put a bullseye in the screen of our Zenith tv. While the tv actually played fine for years after and the bullseye was in the bottom corner of the screen our dad was pretty pissed. We ended up putting the tv in the basement where we had a pool table and a bar. We ended up getting a new tv for the living room but I had to tell the story over and over for years. Luckily no one readily remembers it now. I don't think a modern flat screen would fare as well today. I guess I'll have to spend some time at BB or American on a couch to see if the height would bug me. No one I know has their tv mounted over the fireplace even though they have one.
post #210 of 279
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Originally Posted by MediaFan63 View Post

You have a good point about the kids toys. I threw a large marble at my brother when we were kids and it put a bullseye in the screen of our Zenith tv. While the tv actually played fine for years after and the bullseye was in the bottom corner of the screen our dad was pretty pissed. We ended up putting the tv in the basement where we had a pool table and a bar. We ended up getting a new tv for the living room but I had to tell the story over and over for years. Luckily no one readily remembers it now. I don't think a modern flat screen would fare as well today. I guess I'll have to spend some time at BB or American on a couch to see if the height would bug me. No one I know has their tv mounted over the fireplace even though they have one.

 

That's interesting.  It's pretty much a pandemic in the north east as far as I can see.  Out of 8 people who live on my street, I know 3 of them have a TV over the fireplace, (I haven't seen the others).  And all 3 TVs (again, a chunk of electronics) look crass over something otherwise beautiful.

 

By the way, neck strain is only one piece to a weird puzzle.  There was considerable talk about eyes drying out quickly when the head is tipped back slightly.  I don't know because my TV is centered at sitting eye height.

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