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post #121 of 221
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Originally Posted by jolietconvict View Post

It's active on the west side of Joliet as well. I just signed up for service, but I put off the install until June because they're claiming they'll have support for 4 HD streams around June. Does anyone know if they're working on adding CSN-HD? I won't switch over until they add that either. Also is there a thread for the AT&T DVR in the HDTV Recorders section? I looked but I couldn't find one.

I have been somewhat interested in getting AT&T and I have a couple of concerns. Both of my concerns are what you mentioned. Its the lack of having more than 1 HD feed and also not having CSN HD. I could deal with the 1 HD feed until June if I were to get AT&T since I have an OTA antenna and can just record a show on the DVR and watch another one at the same time OTA.

I am extremely surprised they do not have CSN HD yet. A few weeks ago I asked them about this on the online chat where you can talk to someone that works for AT&T and I asked when they were adding this channel and they gave me a really far off answer. The exact answer the guy gave me was "I am sure we will be adding more HD in the future". It was a very indirect answer. A lot of HD viewers are huge sport fans and until they get CSN HD, its a no go for a switch to AT&T.
post #122 of 221
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Originally Posted by DJ Matt View Post

I have been somewhat interested in getting AT&T and I have a couple of concerns. Both of my concerns are what you mentioned. Its the lack of having more than 1 HD feed and also not having CSN HD. I could deal with the 1 HD feed until June if I were to get AT&T since I have an OTA antenna and can just record a show on the DVR and watch another one at the same time OTA.

I am extremely surprised they do not have CSN HD yet. A few weeks ago I asked them about this on the online chat where you can talk to someone that works for AT&T and I asked when they were adding this channel and they gave me a really far off answer. The exact answer the guy gave me was "I am sure we will be adding more HD in the future". It was a very indirect answer. A lot of HD viewers are huge sport fans and until they get CSN HD, its a no go for a switch to AT&T.

Both no CSN HD & 1 HD feed would be deal killers for me. CSN was the reason I left E* for Comcast when the FSN-Chicago to CSN change happened & E* took months to add CSN and missed an entire Bulls season. & we have 2 HD tv's now & would have a 3rd for the summer if the college student decides to come home for the summer. But, the AT&T box just went in at the entrance to our subdivision in the last week. No doubt I will be calling Comcast & using the threat to switch to AT&T as a means to get them to give me some discounts on my service.
post #123 of 221
I'm assuming CSN is Comcast Sports Network? U-Verse does have it, but I never checked for the HD version of it. I don't think I even had the HD version on Comcast if I remember correctly. Interesting.
post #124 of 221
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Originally Posted by SpySnake View Post

I'm assuming CSN is Comcast Sports Network? U-Verse does have it, but I never checked for the HD version of it. I don't think I even had the HD version on Comcast if I remember correctly. Interesting.

Yes, CSN is Comcast Sportsnet. If you had the HD package with Comcast, you had CSN-HD. Ch 200.
post #125 of 221
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Originally Posted by SpySnake View Post

I'm assuming CSN is Comcast Sports Network? U-Verse does have it, but I never checked for the HD version of it. I don't think I even had the HD version on Comcast if I remember correctly. Interesting.

AT&T has the standard def channel of CSN, but not the HD version of the channel.
post #126 of 221
I watched them install it all winter by me in buffalo grove. well i got mine installed yesterday. took the tech like 5 hours and he didnt even have to do much. wasted a great saturday, but oh well.

the internet is OK. around 5.6 mb down and 1 up. the SD tv is amazing. I thought it was hd at first and asked the tech why it wasnt as clear as comcast hd. he said I had to the hd channels. I did, and what a difference.

now i haven't watched any tv in like the last 3 months so it will be hard to compare. I only watched a couple shows yesterday so I didnt get a chance to play around yet.

one thing i noticed was it would get really sharp, then blur a bit, then sharpen. not sure what that was about. its nice to have a dvr too. menu very easy to use which is a nice change from comcast.

i dont like that you have to choose either 1080i or 720p. comcast would change automatically as i dont think every station is the same.

ill have to do some watching this weekend to see how it looks.

it does concern me that it is running on 40 year old phone wire TO my house though. makes you wonder how much you are losing because of that vs fiber/cat 5/6.
post #127 of 221
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Originally Posted by RoyBell View Post

I watched them install it all winter by me in buffalo grove. well i got mine installed yesterday. took the tech like 5 hours and he didnt even have to do much. wasted a great saturday, but oh well.

the internet is OK. around 5.6 mb down and 1 up. the SD tv is amazing. I thought it was hd at first and asked the tech why it wasnt as clear as comcast hd. he said I had to the hd channels. I did, and what a difference.

now i haven't watched any tv in like the last 3 months so it will be hard to compare. I only watched a couple shows yesterday so I didnt get a chance to play around yet.

one thing i noticed was it would get really sharp, then blur a bit, then sharpen. not sure what that was about. its nice to have a dvr too. menu very easy to use which is a nice change from comcast.

Given that it's actual IPTV I would guess the blurring may be from packet loss.

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i dont like that you have to choose either 1080i or 720p. comcast would change automatically as i dont think every station is the same.

none of comcast's equipment passes the native resolution through.

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ill have to do some watching this weekend to see how it looks.

it does concern me that it is running on 40 year old phone wire TO my house though. makes you wonder how much you are losing because of that vs fiber/cat 5/6.

People get way too hung up on cabling. 100mb/s signaling works just fine on cat 3.
post #128 of 221
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Originally Posted by jolietconvict View Post

Given that it's actual IPTV I would guess the blurring may be from packet loss.

how do i get my packets back?
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none of comcast's equipment passes the native resolution through.

are you sure? I thought it did. but perhaps it could have been when I was bypassing the box and using the tv tuner that i noticed it. ill double check later.
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People get way too hung up on cabling. 100mb/s signaling works just fine on cat 3.

you can also use #14 GA for 30 amps, but it doesn't mean its practical
post #129 of 221
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Comcast says "poorly installed" AT&T U-Verse service is degrading its network and wants a judge to force AT&T to address the problem. AT&T denies that any problem exists, saying Comcast is just trying to keep its customers from switching to U-Verse.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...r-network.html
post #130 of 221
Couple of questions about Uverse. Do you need a box on every tv to get a signal, and if so how much do non-HD boxes cost/month? My home will have about 8 tvs when I'm done furnishing and only 3 of them will need HD boxes. As of now, with Comcast I can still get the analog signal straight through the cable jack.

Also, I live in West Deerfield and the service is not yet available. Is there any ETA on how long it will take AT&T to fully build out the suburbs they are currently offering service in?

Thanks.
post #131 of 221
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Originally Posted by ks-man View Post

Couple of questions about Uverse. Do you need a box on every tv to get a signal, and if so how much do non-HD boxes cost/month? My home will have about 8 tvs when I'm done furnishing and only 3 of them will need HD boxes. As of now, with Comcast I can still get the analog signal straight through the cable jack.

Also, I live in West Deerfield and the service is not yet available. Is there any ETA on how long it will take AT&T to fully build out the suburbs they are currently offering service in?

Thanks.

Right now u-verse can only handle 1 HD feed/HH. I've heard they wioll increase to 2/HH in May. If you need 3, they can't handle it. I'm not sure how many feeds it can handle but I think it's 4/HH. For your needs, Comcast would be the better option IMO.
post #132 of 221
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Originally Posted by Sparkman87 View Post

Right now u-verse can only handle 1 HD feed/HH. I've heard they wioll increase to 2/HH in May. If you need 3, they can't handle it. I'm not sure how many feeds it can handle but I think it's 4/HH. For your needs, Comcast would be the better option IMO.

That's too bad considering the declining quality of Comcast HD. Thanks for the help though.
post #133 of 221
Question for those with the service already. I know the service is being delivered into the home via VDSL. Is it still being distributed within the home via coax? Is it also true that any TV in the house (with a box obviously) can watch shows off of the DVR? Also, why does the install take so farking long?
post #134 of 221
they ran it inside the house with cat5e for me. ive heard of them using coax too though.

i believe you can only watch the dvr shows off of one selected tv.
post #135 of 221
If those who have it don't mind me asking, what are the packages like? I currently have the dry loop 3.0/pro speed DSL line and I'm paying 28.99/mo.

Do they have a TV/DSL package using this speed?
post #136 of 221
Yes. It's $30.00 more than the TV package price.
post #137 of 221
So it really isn't a 'bundle' that's discounted- it's just adding internet on top of the TV bill.

How does the pricing compare to satellite? For instance, on AT&T w/dish, the America's Top 100 is $32.99 + $10 for HD.

How about U verse?
post #138 of 221
Can someone tell me if this service is available in Napperville? Their website "address locator" does not seem to find it.
post #139 of 221
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Originally Posted by skashyap View Post

Can someone tell me if this service is available in Napperville? Their website "address locator" does not seem to find it.

It is for me. I live in zip code 60563. It works when I put my address in as well. Have you received any flyers in the mail? They have sent me about 2 or 3 of them now.
post #140 of 221
I am in 50565. I punched some addresses in 50653 but they dont' show up either. It must be limited rollout, hopefully in next few months they will rollout in all Naperville area. I have not received flyers for Uverse. I did receive some for Advanced TV.
post #141 of 221
skashyap, 50565 is an Iowa zip code. I think you mean 60565.


By the way, I am on AT&T right now pricing some things out for fun and I thought you get up to 3 or 4 receivers free, but I have 3 TV's (2 SDTV, 1 HDTV) and they would charge me $5 each for the 2nd and 3rd receiver. Can anyone clarify this?
post #142 of 221
I have 3 receivers right now, no extra cost. When I signed up in February they told me I could get upto 4 receivers.
post #143 of 221
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Originally Posted by jolietconvict View Post

Question for those with the service already. I know the service is being delivered into the home via VDSL. Is it still being distributed within the home via coax? Is it also true that any TV in the house (with a box obviously) can watch shows off of the DVR? Also, why does the install take so farking long?

When I got installed, it took then a couple of hours to get a good signal to my house, they had to call out a line tech and wait for him to get there. Then once inside the house, it took them a few hours to check my existing cable and run some new cable. Download all the firmware for the boxes, etc.

The cable runs to the remote gateway, then from there it is distributed to each tv either via coax or cat5. So it depends on how you are currently wired up and how much extra cabling they have to do.

Currently the DVR is not a whole house DVR. Soon to be upgraded they say, but they've been saying that for quite some time, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
post #144 of 221
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Originally Posted by LYU370 View Post

I have 3 receivers right now, no extra cost.

Yes, but is that only temporary?
post #145 of 221
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Yes, but is that only temporary?

According to the door-to-door guy who came by my house the free extra receivers were a promo that recently ended.
post #146 of 221
That 3 extra receivers was a huge deal. Its going to cost more now. Do you need a box in order to receive the channels on a SDTV or can you just screw in the cable line and get some of the channels that way? Since its all digital, I would assume you need a receiver though. That burns right there. Its too much money they are asking for everything.
post #147 of 221
Sounds like they have now dropped the additional free STB's and have also dropped the bundle discount.

Starting to get close to the price of cable.
post #148 of 221
So St. Louis has the 2 HD feeds now. Its the only area that U-Verse is offering the 2 feeds as of right now. I would assume this is coming to Chicago very soon.
post #149 of 221
I'm sort of confused. The 2 reps I spoke with said I need to subscribe to the sports package or to U300 and above to receive Comcast Sports Net Chicago. According to the U-Verse website it states it's included with the U200 package. Being that I live in Chicago, why would I have to pay $14 to get my local sports channel? I don't need Fox Sports Florida or NESN. Anyone have any info on this?
post #150 of 221
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Originally Posted by adrian457 View Post

I'm sort of confused. The 2 reps I spoke with said I need to subscribe to the sports package or to U300 and above to receive Comcast Sports Net Chicago. According to the U-Verse website it states it's included with the U200 package. Being that I live in Chicago, why would I have to pay $14 to get my local sports channel? I don't need Fox Sports Florida or NESN. Anyone have any info on this?

They have to be wrong. CSN is a basic channel. If they are making people subscribe to the U300 for CSN, then nobody will go with AT&T. They don't even have the CSN HD channel yet. I would talk to another rep about it and mention that you saw the channel for U200.
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