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Mitsubishi HC3000 Flicker

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
My HC3000 started to flicker at 480 bulb hours. Called Mitsu and they said that my 25' run of Monoprice cables is too long. They said that I need a "line something or another" for a run that long. After searching for what this guy told me I needed I realized that he wanted me to get a HDMI repeater/amp. Anyone ever heard of this before? Needing a repeater for a run this short? He said something on the circuit board within the projector shorted out because of it. I figured it was just a bad bulb. Anyone know what the warranty on the bulb is? The pj is two years but I don't know if that includes the bulb.

The most unfortunate part is I have to send it back for repair. The good part is he said the have a 72 hour or less turnaround time. He was very nice but I question his thinking on the cable run. A 25' run would be a short run for a projector I would think. But he was adamant that this was a long run. Anyone else have a thought? I did purchase a monoprice 5X1 switch but I don't think it should be needed for repeating, just for easy switching of hdmi signals.

mech
post #2 of 24
If your unit only flickers after 480 hours, it has nothing to do with the HDMI cable. The bulb only has 3 months warranty period if I remember correctly.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply! That's kind of what I thought about it.

mech
post #4 of 24
Try to run the unit in high lamp mode as low lamp mode cause more flickering on some units. Nothing to lose as it's either your bulb (less likely) or ballast (more likely).
post #5 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huey View Post

Try to run the unit in high lamp mode as low lamp mode cause more flickering on some units. Nothing to lose as it's either your bulb (less likely) or ballast (more likely).

I've read that somewhere else here so I've tried it. The ballast must be part of the bulb package, right? And what do you guys think of the assertion that my cable run was too long?

mech
post #6 of 24
Ridiculous. Long cable run does not flicker. Either it shows no signal due to loss of sync, green sparklies due to noise, ground loop scrolling bars due to interference, etc.

Bottom line is tech. support's first move is to blame the consumer (check out Sanyo's thread about blaming users universally for dirty air filters for causing early LCD panel failure--while applicable to some users, certainly not to other anal users).

The ballast is on the machine generally, but I'm not sure about the HC3000.
post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks Huey! I appreciate it!

mech
post #8 of 24
hows your hc3000 otherwise, good picture besides the flicker? colors still good? blacks black etc? how is the shadow details?
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
Excellent other than the flicker. I've posted alot of picks in the laminate thread. Look here.

mech
post #10 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by mech View Post

Excellent other than the flicker. I've posted alot of picks in the laminate thread. Look here.

mech

Mech: I've had the same problem with my Mits HC3000. Just switch to high lamp mode temporarily for an hour or so then switch back. What's happening is that the lamp is building a deposit and the arc is switching back and forth between it and the normal path. The high lamp mode should burn away the deposit.
post #11 of 24
The cable run thing is nonsense IMO . I also run 25' of Monoprice HDMI , Component & VGA cables and I have never had any flicker in low power with over 600 hours of use (I ran my HC3000 in high power mode 1 time for a few hours at about 500 lamp hours) .

I hope Mitsu is not trying to make you pay for the so-called 'repair' .

------ Jason
post #12 of 24
B.S. from the tech. I have a 35ft run from Monoprice with zero/zilch flicker problems. Just checked my lamp and I am at 618 hrs and loving it.

Good luck,

Mr Ian B
post #13 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys!

Fremont,

I've tried the Standard Lamp mode to no avail. Haven't tried it for an hour though. Will do tonight.

Jason,

I thought the cable thinking was nonsense as well. The pj is covered under warranty for 2 years and I was authorized for a return. Now if I can get their company that fixes these things to email me the RMA form. I called once yesterday and twice today. Still no form. Not exactly great customer service! They did say that they guarantee a 48 hour turnaround (from the time they receive it) on the pj.

Ian,

I agree. I'm at 482 today. Was really at 473 when it started. Love the pj, but the flicker is annoying! It seemed to be worse tonight as well.


I'll keep this up to date as it progresses. My money is on the ballast with Huey.

mech
post #14 of 24
Hey Guy,
I work at a Mits dealership and have seen the same problem with the two demo units that
I have been around and they have been running in the high lamp mode. After switching
to the low mode the flicker goes away. Any thoughts ?

Wells
post #15 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwylie8643@sbcgl View Post

Hey Guy,
I work at a Mits dealership and have seen the same problem with the two demo units that
I have been around and they have been running in the high lamp mode. After switching
to the low mode the flicker goes away. Any thoughts ?

Wells

Read FremontRich's post above. Unfortunately mine does not appear to be this problem as it still does it regardless of lamp mode or the amount of time in either mode.

mech
post #16 of 24
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Thought I'd post an update. After faxing my RMA form to Mitsubishi Service Center, I waited about a week for them to contact me. They didn't so I called them. They gave me the RMA number and the address to ship it to. Boxed it up on Monday and 2nd Day'ed it to them via UPS. According to the tracking, they received it on Wednesday AM at 9:41am. Called on Friday am to see what the status was and they said they received it on Thursday and were looking at it now. They said to call back on Monday and they'd have a better idea what's going on with it. According to their 72 hour turnaround time and my tracking tag, Monday am would be 72 hours.

mech
post #17 of 24
Thread Starter 
Another update:

As of today, 9:41am Pacific, they will have had my pj for 96 hours.

I hope nobody else has a problem with their projector cause this process has been one of my top five worst experiences! To start it off, it took 4 times talking to them on the phone to email me the RMA form. And when I finally did get it, I filled it out and faxed it back. Didn't hear anything from them at all so I called them after 5 days. "Oh yes. Here's your RMA number." Ummmm can I have an address to ship it to?? Boxed it up and 2nd Day'd it to them last Monday. According to UPS Tracking they received it Wednesday at 9:41am. They "guaranteed" a 72 hour turnaround. According to my phone conversations with them, the tech didn't even look at it until 72 hours. My conversations have been nothing but cordial with them, but with the Super Bowl coming up on Sunday. And me having guests over, things are going to change today!

mech
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
I've gotten nothing out of them. Still no tracking number. I don't think I will ever buy a Mitsubishi product again!

mech
post #19 of 24
I have this flicker problem on my HC3000 model as well.
I'm going tonight to Best Buy and see if I can get an exchange since I just bought that projector about 1 week ago.

In the beginning it was only flickering on side of the screen while the other side looked stable. Now it's throughout the whole screen. Keeping the lamp in full power mode didn't do anything for the flicker problem.

Man... the Superbowl is only a few days away and now that...
post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 
Well it's finally on the way back. The tech said he couldn't recreate the problem and therefore determined that it was more than likely an issue with the bulb. They replaced it at no charge and the pj will be at my doorstep no later than tomorrow pm.

My impression is that the Mitsu Service Center is poorly run. Service reps have no idea what's going on at all. They always have to run back and talk to the techs - even to find out whether it was shipped and what the tracking number is. That place needs a major overhaul! Maybe it was a bad timing as well - two weeks before the Super Bowl.

My biggest problem was that if you're going to 'guarantee' a 72 hour turnaround on warrantied products, then do it. UPS tracking says the package arrived at 9:41am Wednesday. The projector was in FedEx's hands 5 business days later - that would be a 120 hour turnaround. As stated earlier, the tech didn't even look at it until 72 hours! If they didn't make that guarantee to me (at least 3 times), I would have waited until after the Super Bowl to send it to them.

mech
post #21 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scummer View Post

I have this flicker problem on my HC3000 model as well.
I'm going tonight to Best Buy and see if I can get an exchange since I just bought that projector about 1 week ago.

In the beginning it was only flickering on side of the screen while the other side looked stable. Now it's throughout the whole screen. Keeping the lamp in full power mode didn't do anything for the flicker problem.

Man... the Superbowl is only a few days away and now that...

Chances are the exchange won't have this problem. There are alot of hc3000 owners out there and I can only think of a couple of us who've had the issue.

mech
post #22 of 24
Exchange at Best Buy went through without a hitch. Got a new HC3000 in my hands but didn't try it out yesterday, since I wanted to mount my speakers onto the ceiling instead of playing around with the PJ
I'll try it today and see what happens.
post #23 of 24
Hooked up the new pj yesterday. Works like a charm sofar. No flicker whatsoever. Stable picture. Now the colors need some adjustment, but thats it.
post #24 of 24
Thread Starter 
Mine is back to normal as well. Wierd that it was the bulb and yet the switching back and forth from standard to low mode couldn't fix it.

mech
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