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Did I make the right choice? (SVS PB12-Plus/2 + HSU MBM-12)

post #1 of 24
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What do you guys think? Just placed my order for both and I can't wait until I get them. I'm headed to CES on Tuesday so ironically I'm going to be able to listen to the PB12-Plus/2 at SVS's booth before I get back home to setup mine. And I'm no professional artist but this picture gets the data across.

post #2 of 24
How Funny..

You have a cat named HSU MBM 12..
post #3 of 24
I think you should have waited to listen to the SVS before ordering the MBM.
post #4 of 24
LOL, you are great.
post #5 of 24
You should have posted pics of your room when you initially asked questions. Because your viewing area is so small, and you're basically sitting nearfield, you don't need that much subwoofer IMO.

Also, Unless my eyes deceive me, the plus/2 is not going to fit in that little corner. I would look for some other placements, possibly in the open areas of the room.
post #6 of 24
Where are your speakers, next to the TV? Are they tower speakers? Ideally the tweeters should be at ear-level. Ideally the speakers would be where the two chairs are.

But you have to make compromises when it's set up in a mixed-use area.


rockemsockem,

That doesn't look anything like "near-field" to me. Maybe 12+ feet from the TV? Plus the room is open on the left side and to the back, with a high ceiling. That's a big space to fill.
post #7 of 24
Like I said, I dont' have good perception with pictures, it looks like 5 ft. to me.

What's going to be funny, is when the sub is really hitting, that rocking horse is really going to be rockin. :-)

A co-worker of mine bought a 20-39Pci for his 15x40x8 basement. SVS was trying to get him to get the PB12-isd/2 (at the time) to fill the entire room. Why would someone sitting in the bathroom in the rear of the room need to hear bass. His actual viewing area is probably 15x12 maybe, and that 20-39 is enough sub for him. It was hitting levels that I would never listen at with no audible distortion.

My point is, I don't understand the need to fill the entire room, it is a bit of overkill IMO. I don't want to hear bass in my adjoining kitchen and breakfast nook, but maybe that's just me.
post #8 of 24
In a smaller room, the bass hits the walls and bounces back. But in larger room the area is bigger, so you need more subwoofer to get the same volume.
post #9 of 24
You would porb. have plenty with that Plus/2... Mine hits hard, and my room seems much larger then yours... and Mine also spills out into other rooms as well with vaulted ceilings.

They are going to have a Plus/2 at CES in rosewood, and were telling me that If I show up, whomever wants the sub, they would get it at a good price... and thats the discontinued Rosewood, not rosenut
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by rockemsockem View Post

Like I said, I dont' have good perception with pictures, it looks like 5 ft. to me.

What's going to be funny, is when the sub is really hitting, that rocking horse is really going to be rockin. :-)

A co-worker of mine bought a 20-39Pci for his 15x40x8 basement. SVS was trying to get him to get the PB12-isd/2 (at the time) to fill the entire room. Why would someone sitting in the bathroom in the rear of the room need to hear bass. His actual viewing area is probably 15x12 maybe, and that 20-39 is enough sub for him. It was hitting levels that I would never listen at with no audible distortion.

My point is, I don't understand the need to fill the entire room, it is a bit of overkill IMO. I don't want to hear bass in my adjoining kitchen and breakfast nook, but maybe that's just me.

A 15x40x8 room is a pretty big room. I don't think SVS was trying to oversell them at all, different strokes for different folks.

I'm trying to find a place for a 2nd HSU VTF3 in my 1500ft3 room.
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by rockemsockem View Post

You should have posted pics of your room when you initially asked questions. Because your viewing area is so small, and you're basically sitting nearfield, you don't need that much subwoofer IMO.

Also, Unless my eyes deceive me, the plus/2 is not going to fit in that little corner. I would look for some other placements, possibly in the open areas of the room.

Your eyes indeed deceive you. In fact a subwoofer even bigger than the PB12-Plus/2 could fit in either subwoofer locations in the picture. I already took measurements to confirm according to the specs on SVS's website.

And the TV is between 14 and 16 feet away from the seating area. I have no idea in hell how you could possibly think that is only 5 feet.

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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post

You would porb. have plenty with that Plus/2... Mine hits hard, and my room seems much larger then yours... and Mine also spills out into other rooms as well with vaulted ceilings.

They are going to have a Plus/2 at CES in rosewood, and were telling me that If I show up, whomever wants the sub, they would get it at a good price... and thats the discontinued Rosewood, not rosenut

My room is 9,600 cu ft.. Not sure the size of your room.

You say SVS is going to have a Plus/2 at CES in rosewood and will be selling it cheap.... I'll be sure to ask them about that when I'm there but what's the difference between Rosewood and Rosenut? On my invoice from SVS it shows up as me ordering Rosenut but what's the difference?

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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post

Where are your speakers, next to the TV? Are they tower speakers? Ideally the tweeters should be at ear-level. Ideally the speakers would be where the two chairs are.

But you have to make compromises when it's set up in a mixed-use area.


rockemsockem,

That doesn't look anything like "near-field" to me. Maybe 12+ feet from the TV? Plus the room is open on the left side and to the back, with a high ceiling. That's a big space to fill.

Yes, the speakers are next to the TV. They are floorstandings---I'm guessing that means tower speakers also. I know the tweeters should be at ear-level but there was no way to do it that way in that room. It's a compromise I had to take.
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post

A 15x40x8 room is a pretty big room. I don't think SVS was trying to oversell them at all, different strokes for different folks.

I'm trying to find a place for a 2nd HSU VTF3 in my 1500ft3 room.

Your getting a second HSU for that size room? Why?
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by Kevin12586 View Post

Your getting a second HSU for that size room? Why?

I was thinking the same thing.

I've got a 280-watt 10" Klipsch RW-10 subwoofer in my 1,500 cu ft. bedroom and last night while watching Swordfish during the car chase scene when John Travolta was shooting at the cars tailing him the sub was shaking the paint off the walls. It was great! I can't wait for that effect in my family room. Need lots more power considering the space is almost 10x larger. Stick my RW-10 in our family room and you wouldn't even know it was there.
post #14 of 24
Who the hell was talking about the TV?

I was talking about the corner where the sub is going to the couch.

It's a bad picture, forgive me for trying to help. I won't make that mistake again.
post #15 of 24
I am with the above person. Get the SVS PB12+2 and forget anything else except maybe some buttkickers for the couch..
post #16 of 24
Denon2807 - As a guy who has actually placed an MBM-12 nearfield with a PB12-Plus/2 about 17 feet from the listening position, I can assure you it is not a subtle difference. You will be pretty happy with the combo.

As for Rosenut vs. Rosewood - this is just a guess, but I think Rosenut is from SVS's new cabinet maker, where Rosewood is what SAC used to produce.
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by Kevin12586 View Post

Your getting a second HSU for that size room? Why?

Because I can.
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Denon2807 - As a guy who has actually placed an MBM-12 nearfield with a PB12-Plus/2 about 17 feet from the listening position, I can assure you it is not a subtle difference. You will be pretty happy with the combo.

As for Rosenut vs. Rosewood - this is just a guess, but I think Rosenut is from SVS's new cabinet maker, where Rosewood is what SAC used to produce.

Thanks for the reconfirming what I hoped was true.

I'm really looking forward to setting both of the new subs up as soon as I get back from CES on Friday. I get in around 8AM on the Redeye (flying allllll night ) so I'm sure watching some Lord of the Rings with these new babies will wake me up after a long sleepless night on the plane---I can never seem to fall asleep on planes for some reason.
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post

Because I can.

Fair enough, it is your space and your money you are right about that. I was only asking because I thought/believed that a PB12/+2 would be more than enough in a 1500 cubic foot room. Anyway, enjoy your dual +2's
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by Denon2807 View Post

You say SVS is going to have a Plus/2 at CES in rosewood and will be selling it cheap.... I'll be sure to ask them about that when I'm there but what's the difference between Rosewood and Rosenut? On my invoice from SVS it shows up as me ordering Rosenut but what's the difference?

I too was concerned about the color... as the rosewood looks so beautiful, I wasn't sure how the rosenut was going to be compared, but I just took the chance...
and here is what I got in the rosenut..
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9311907

I have absolutely no complaints...
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post

I too was concerned about the color... as the rosewood looks so beautiful, I wasn't sure how the rosenut was going to be compared, but I just took the chance...
and here is what I got in the rosenut..
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9311907

I have absolutely no complaints...

Awesome! The website said they were out of stock on the Rosewood but hopefully that means they just haven't updated the website to reflect the new Rosenut yet. When you ordered did it say they were out of stock on the Rosewood option? I clicked it anyway and made my order and on the invoice it showed up as my ordering Rosenut so I'm hoping they have that in stock.
post #22 of 24
yes... I just ordered the rosenut...

It is flawless.. You'll quickly realize that the Plus/2 will more then meet all your needs..
And that second sub is overkill... but hey... who cares, if ya got it flaunt it.... !!!!

Enjoy your awesome setup...
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post

And that second sub is overkill... but hey... who cares, if ya got it flaunt it.... !!!!

Enjoy your awesome setup...

Not for my size room it isn't. I'm actually worried I won't have enough power.
post #24 of 24
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Just went 7.1. Can't wait!!!

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