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Oppo VS Sony SCD-CE595... Which is better when it comes to audio???

post #1 of 11
1/6/07 at 10:20pm
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I am deciding whether to get a SCD-CE595 now and get an Oppo player (not sure which model yet... probably 971) later on for my set up. I am concerned about the audio quality from the Oppo and whether i should get a SCD-CE595 instead just for listening to SACD's and CD's. Can someone fill me in?
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post #2 of 11
1/11/07 at 10:51am
I am so glad this thread was started.

I have an oppo 970 and finally got a decent Surround System (SLS Q-Line).

Knowing that my oppo played Sacd's and I had the receiver to play them I went out and bought a few SACDs and some analog cables.

Although mulit-channel audio is unique and takes some getting used to the analog 5.1 output of my oppo is so tinny and cheap sounding that it drove me up the wall. Here I have this amazing audio recording which I expect to sound equal to, if not better than a CD passed over Optical and aside from the novelty of the multichannel, the analog sounds much worse out of my oppo 970. But its not just the SACD. If I am playing a Dvd or audio cd and I switch to analog the sound is horrible. I don't think its the receiver because the analog output from an ipod connected to the receiver sounds better than the analog output of the oppo 970 playing the cd version of the mp3 on the ipod !

I searched that insanely long 200+ page thread about the oppo 970 and got out of it that the oppo analog outputs needed to be 'burned in' a while to really sound proper.

OK. I played analog output non-stop 24/7 and have yet to notice enough of a difference.

Hopefully I am incompetent and haven't configured everything properly, but I have spent hours fiddling with all the analog settings and all without avail.

This is my first post on the subject and I hope I have not soured you to the oppo 970 experience. Its truly a great player, and the outputted digital audio is fantastic. I only wish I had an hdmi receiver so I could at least hear a digital pcm stream of the sacd and not the analog one.

This message is from a guy who is seriously considering the ce595.
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post #3 of 11
1/11/07 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons View Post

I am deciding whether to get a SCD-CE595 now and get an Oppo player (not sure which model yet... probably 971) later on for my set up. I am concerned about the audio quality from the Oppo and whether i should get a SCD-CE595 instead just for listening to SACD's and CD's. Can someone fill me in?

Actually, you should get the Oppo 970 rather than the 971 if you are interested in it as a CD/SACD/DVD-Audio player. The analog circuit and the chipset is better for music on the 970 over the 971. If you want a great DVD-Video player with the Faroudja chipset and you don't have macroblocking concerns, go with the 971. If you have an outboard video processor or if you're more interested in audio rather than video capability, get the 970.

Jack
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post #4 of 11
1/11/07 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by bs1175 View Post

I am so glad this thread was started.

I have an oppo 971 and finally got a decent Surround System (SLS Q-Line).

Knowing that my oppo played Sacd's and I had the receiver to play them I went out and bought a few SACDs and some analog cables.

Although mulit-channel audio is unique and takes some getting used to the analog 5.1 output of my oppo is so tinny and cheap sounding that it drove me up the wall. Here I have this amazing audio recording which I expect to sound equal to, if not better than a CD passed over Optical and aside from the novelty of the multichannel, the analog sounds much worse out of my oppo 971. But its not just the SACD. If I am playing a Dvd or audio cd and I switch to analog the sound is horrible. I don't think its the receiver because the analog output from an ipod connected to the receiver sounds better than the analog output of the oppo 971 playing the cd version of the mp3 on the ipod !

I searched that insanely long 200+ page thread about the oppo 971 and got out of it that the oppo analog outputs needed to be 'burned in' a while to really sound proper.

OK. I played analog output non-stop 24/7 and have yet to notice enough of a difference.

Hopefully I am incompetent and haven't configured everything properly, but I have spent hours fiddling with all the analog settings and all without avail.

This is my first post on the subject and I hope I have not soured you to the oppo 971 experience. Its truly a great player, and the outputted digital audio is fantastic. I only wish I had an hdmi receiver so I could at least hear a digital pcm stream of the sacd and not the analog one.

This message is from a guy who is seriously considering the ce595.

i'm confused. you repeatedly say here that you have the 971, yet the 971 doesn't even play SACD. you must be hearing the redbook layer of the SACDs. if that's the case and you're using the analog outs, perhaps you have your player or receiver settings wrong, as my own criticisms of the Oppo would not include "tinny."

i have a 970, and am quite happy with the playback of all formats, for the money. i haven't compared it directly against anything but the Pioneer Elite DV45A. i preferred the Oppo for all formats.

in addition, Oppo itself recommends the 970 above the 971 and 981 if your primary concern is audio playback.
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post #5 of 11
1/11/07 at 4:03pm
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I already sent my payment out for a SCD-CE595 :P .
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post #6 of 11
1/11/07 at 11:03pm
Oops, I meant 970.

So have you noticed a sound quality difference between analog and digital 5.1 while watching a movie in realtime ?

Also, if you don't mind how would you describe the quality difference ?

Thanks !
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post #7 of 11
1/12/07 at 7:04am
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Originally Posted by bs1175 View Post

Oops, I meant 970.

So have you noticed a sound quality difference between analog and digital 5.1 while watching a movie in realtime ?

Also, if you don't mind how would you describe the quality difference ?

Thanks !

i ditched my 5.1 setup for delicious 2-channel goodness, so i'm only using the analog outs. the sound is great with movies, especially the music scores, but movies are not my priority.
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post #8 of 11
1/14/07 at 9:00pm
I am also going the 2 channel route. I will be using the Oppo 981 as a transport for cd. I will use coaxial to a DAC and then 2 channel out to a Emotiva LMC-1 to a CounterPoint SA220. Another plus of the 981 is it outputs 1080p.
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post #9 of 11
1/15/07 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by cpk123 View Post

I am also going the 2 channel route. I will be using the Oppo 981 as a transport for cd. I will use coaxial to a DAC and then 2 channel out to a Emotiva LMC-1 to a CounterPoint SA220. Another plus of the 981 is it outputs 1080p.

for what it's worth, Oppo still recommends the 970 over the 981 if audio is your priority.
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post #10 of 11
1/16/07 at 1:55pm
I'm still playing with my oppo 970 and only have it set up on 2.0 system for now using analogue out.

Before the oppo, I had been using a very good rotel cd player and enjoy the Oppo more on redbook.

There is a lot to play with in the oppo setup. My speakers are big bookshelf so I had to decide whether to set them on small or large. I ended up with Large cause I liked the bass better but there was some music that sounded better set on small. Next is the eq settings. I end up using "rock" and "living room" but frankly, it really depended on what I was listening to. Sometimes concert was better.

Because I am using 2.0, I have the oppo read the stereo layer of my sacd disks and love the way it sounds. Its my only sacd player so I can only compare it to cd player which plays redbook on the same disk and sacd is better. How much better is partly a function of the disk. Some Dylan cds are marginally better but blood on the tracks is much better.

Bottom line is when tinkering with the oppo, you have to tinker with the setup settings before making any definative conclusions.
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post #11 of 11
1/21/07 at 7:23am
I noticed that the specs for the Oppo 970 say that its frequency response is 20hz to 20khz, while Sony claims that the SCD-CE595 can do 2hz to 50khz--would that make SACD playback better on the Sony? Do you still think that the Oppo would be limited to 20hz-20khz if it was sending the SACD signal out via HDMI?
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