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post #1141 of 1207
Hello Forum.....I am working on a nice little pre-amp, rc-960bx. The unit came to me as non-functioning. It is working now. When selecting the tone switch ON or OFF there is a SNAP through the speakers. Also , when you turn OFF the unit with an amp connected that is ON, there is also a SNAP.

Is this normal for Rotel? All voltages are completely normal.

If it isn't normal.....what could be the cause of this? I have de-oxited all controls/switches.

Any info is good info.
post #1142 of 1207
Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a used RSP-1570 processor from a Rotel dealer. I can't get video and sound concurrently from my Oppo BDP-83 blu-ray player using HDMI for audio. I have to power down the flat screen display to get sound thru the Rotel. The dealer suggested calling Rotel, but I wanted your input first.

The Oppo to the Rotel works fine with the analog inputs but I want to use HDMI for audio to have the Rotel do all the processing. I've tried 3 different HDMI cables and reversed direction on one - all without success. Two of the cables were HDMI v1.3b and one was 1.1. I also tried a Toshiba HD-XA2 and had the same results as the Oppo.

Also, I've read the B&W FAQs for setup, again without success. The Oppo and Toshiba had hdmi audio selected and secondary audio was set to off.

The set-top box works fine, but I have it connected with HDMI for video only, audio is via coax. The equipment path for blu-ray is Oppo 83 to RSP-1570 to Panasonic TH-PF9UK 1080 display. I've read the Rotel manual multiple times, searched extensively on the Internet forums, and am familiar with Rotel processors through 12 year ownership of the RSP-1066.

I remember reading that someone had a similar problem but they never posted their solution and now I can't remember which forum I was in at the time.

Any ideas? Thanks very much!

Terry
post #1143 of 1207
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Originally Posted by Terry78 View Post

Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a used RSP-1570 processor from a Rotel dealer. I can't get video and sound concurrently from my Oppo BDP-83 blu-ray player using HDMI for audio. I have to power down the flat screen display to get sound thru the Rotel. The dealer suggested calling Rotel, but I wanted your input first.

The Oppo to the Rotel works fine with the analog inputs but I want to use HDMI for audio to have the Rotel do all the processing. I've tried 3 different HDMI cables and reversed direction on one - all without success. Two of the cables were HDMI v1.3b and one was 1.1. I also tried a Toshiba HD-XA2 and had the same results as the Oppo.

Also, I've read the B&W FAQs for setup, again without success. The Oppo and Toshiba had hdmi audio selected and secondary audio was set to off.

The set-top box works fine, but I have it connected with HDMI for video only, audio is via coax. The equipment path for blu-ray is Oppo 83 to RSP-1570 to Panasonic TH-PF9UK 1080 display. I've read the Rotel manual multiple times, searched extensively on the Internet forums, and am familiar with Rotel processors through 12 year ownership of the RSP-1066.

I remember reading that someone had a similar problem but they never posted their solution and now I can't remember which forum I was in at the time.

Any ideas? Thanks very much!

Terry
Did you upgrade Rotel to newest firmwares?

It has like 4 or so different sections that need to be updated.
From video, to audio, to main firmware etc.
Do a Google search for Rotel firmware and you will find link that lets you choose your model and shows all the different firmwares.
You can even pass 3d with newest video firmware...

Note: Windows 64 bit versions don't seem to play nice with some of the update programs.
Unless they have been updated like for the two-1572.

Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2
post #1144 of 1207
Yes, the firmware versions match the versions in B&W's Rotel support webpage for the RSP-1570. Thanks for your input, I need all the ideas I can get!
post #1145 of 1207
I have in my possession a Rotel RMB-1075. I would be the third owner. If I want to keep it it will cost me $700. Actually it is the only piece of equipment that I have now related to HT gear. I am planning on building a new setup based on most likely either the B&W 683s or the PSB Image T6. My budget is limited, so I was originally going to just a Marantz/Denon receiver b/c I require the ability to play streaming audio from my NAS and a lot of streaming from pandora/spotify/etc. I also really like the idea of controlling things from my iphone/ipad. So due to my limited budget, should I try and get a Preamp with the above requirements (for streaming) with a price that would have to be under $1k if not closer to $500 for the preamp, or should I just not worry about the rotel amp and get a regular receiver (like the Marantz SR7005 or similar). Thanks all for suggestions. I am new to all this and really considering this amp is older (but very high quality), I don't know what would be the best way to go now.
post #1146 of 1207
Are you close to a city that has a costco? The Yamaha HTR-7065 7.2 Network AV Receiver with pre-amp outs is avail. for a little under 500.00.
or have you considered the Sherwood Newcastle on accessories 4 less .com?
post #1147 of 1207
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Originally Posted by mahdlokg View Post

Are you close to a city that has a costco? The Yamaha HTR-7065 7.2 Network AV Receiver with pre-amp outs is avail. for a little under 500.00.
or have you considered the Sherwood Newcastle on accessories 4 less .com?

I have been visiting A4L almost constantly for a few weeks now trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on one of the marantz/denon networked receivers there. I had considered for a long time getting the focal 814v towers and 800 center channel as well. It is so hard though to decide without being able to try them out. There are costcos in the area but I am not a member. That might be worth checking out though.

I don't know anything about the sherwood newcastle brand - whether its considered low-end, high-end or somewhere in the middle.

So do you think a receiver like the Yamaha you mention would work well with the Rotel 1075? Or would I be better off just going with a higher end receiver as a single device solution. The demo I did with the small rotel amd and cd player was just so great, that I was really impressed by their ability to produce such loud volumes with such ease (and at only 60w amp).
post #1148 of 1207
If some of the fancy HDMI switching is making you consider the marantz/denon then don't do it. I sold my 1098 on Ebay (still have the RMB-1095) and bought the marantz av-7005. The sound is good, the airplay is cool, but the HDMI switching is not ready for prime time. too many incompatibilities between source and display handshake related to HDCP. Sometimes sources work, other days they don't. a real pain and the marantz may go back because of this. It would have already had I not been so quick to sell the 1098 which I paid 2x more for back in 2005. For the price, the AV7005 is a good deal but depends on what you want it for.
post #1149 of 1207
http://www.digitaltrends.com/receivers-separates-amps-reviews/yamaha-rx-v773-review/
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Originally Posted by jcbryant4200 View Post

I have been visiting A4L almost constantly for a few weeks now trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on one of the marantz/denon networked receivers there. I had considered for a long time getting the focal 814v towers and 800 center channel as well. It is so hard though to decide without being able to try them out. There are costcos in the area but I am not a member. That might be worth checking out though.

I don't know anything about the sherwood newcastle brand - whether its considered low-end, high-end or somewhere in the middle.

So do you think a receiver like the Yamaha you mention would work well with the Rotel 1075? Or would I be better off just going with a higher end receiver as a single device solution. The demo I did with the small rotel amd and cd player was just so great, that I was really impressed by their ability to produce such loud volumes with such ease (and at only 60w amp).

i have had experience with Marantz and Rotel, and enjoy their sound equally. I have not had any recent experience with Yamaha, but believe to be a good quality brand. Here is a review I found regarding the Yamaha:

I don't know why but this link will not copy directly. Click on any of the blue print and it will take you to the review.


The Sherwood Newcastle has a couple of dedicated threads on here and is available as a closeout from A4L. It is supposed to have a steep learning curve, so if that is not something you enjoy, although those that love it say it sounds fantastic.

I myself am looking at new receivers now and am considering Marantz, Yamaha, & Denon. If you are interested in Yamaha, some of last year's Avenatge models can be had from several sources at really good prices. RX-810, 1010, 2010 and 3010, all have pre-amp outs as well, but the 820 will fit your budget best.

Edited by mahdlokg - 1/14/13 at 8:41pm
post #1150 of 1207
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Originally Posted by britchie911 View Post

If some of the fancy HDMI switching is making you consider the marantz/denon then don't do it. I sold my 1098 on Ebay (still have the RMB-1095) and bought the marantz av-7005. The sound is good, the airplay is cool, but the HDMI switching is not ready for prime time. too many incompatibilities between source and display handshake related to HDCP. Sometimes sources work, other days they don't. a real pain and the marantz may go back because of this. It would have already had I not been so quick to sell the 1098 which I paid 2x more for back in 2005. For the price, the AV7005 is a good deal but depends on what you want it for.

Interesting that you point out the HDMI switching issues. I was seriously considering the Marantz SR6006 and would use the HDMI switching feature so that I only need to wire up one HDMI cable through my wall to the mounted TV. Its a shame that some of the higher-end, yet still affordably priced separates (like emotiva) don't have some of the nicer features like airplay or control through an app interface. The SR6006 is a 7.2 box and does have pre-outs so if I want to upgrade to a separate amp in the future it would be possible.
post #1151 of 1207
Our store has one pair of speaker which the mark is "AUDIO PHYSIC".
This is demo speaker. They are brand new but old model.
I want to sell them which the price is USD 100.
If you want to buy, please send email to me. I will reply you as soon as possible.
post #1152 of 1207
post #1153 of 1207
jcbbryant go to dollar tree and buy a 3.5mm jack in the electronics section for iphone/ipod. they are only a buck. I have it hooked up to aux input on receiver. the only internet radio app that stops playing when it turns off the brightness is iheart radio. if I want to use that I have to set it to never turn off. try shoutcast and jango app for iphone. they are good. I tried the tape input on my older fisher stereo receiver and it works fine.
post #1154 of 1207
RSX-1560 with a USB to S/PDIF converter.

Anyone using a USB to S/PDIF converter with a Rotel RSX-15xxx?

I currently use the optical input from my mid 2010 Mac Mini and the HDMI inputs as well and both work well. Wanted to hear if there is any difference in the sound using USB versus optical or HDMI and if any other users have any experience with the likes of Musical Fidelity V-Link 192 USB to S/DIF converter or other other like Bel-canton

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Ed
post #1155 of 1207
To ERAU23
Hi Ed,
I have an Rotel RSP-1570 pre/pro and a 2009 Mac Mini and, despite extensive research, I have not been able to get DD or DTS sound through an optical connection to the Rotel. I can only get Dolby Prologic II sound other than stereo. My Rotel has the latest firmware and the Mac the latest software upgrades.

The mini is video connected via mini DIsplayport>VGA to the PC connection of a Panasonic TH-50PF9UK and I've also tried a Mini DisplayPort>DVI connection for the video without success. Audio is an optical cable with 3.5 mm adapter, and I've also tried three different toslink cables with integrated 3.5 mm plugs on the Mac Mini end.

All multichannel settings in Audio Midi preferences are always grayed-out so I cannot select them. I've tried to change every other setting without success. I've also tried multiple settings in the Rotel menu without success (eg, correct optical port; video off, video HDMI, both for the applicable video port setting).

Sorry to hijack your question but you seem to have had success where I have not. Thanks much!
Edited by Terry78 - 1/25/13 at 12:52am
post #1156 of 1207
I should also mention that I can get one Eye TV channel in Dolby Digital but everything else not - this includes Several well-known Internet websites and individual TV channel sites that are known to stream DD multichannel.
post #1157 of 1207
Terry78- You have provided me with a challenge. Is it possible to provide a screenshot or picture of the Audio MIDI screen and the input settings of your RSP-1570?

Screen shot of my Audio MIDI setup screen. Notice I have two outputs, one for Digital and one HDMI. You should have a DVI and a Digital output (I expect).




Your video settings on the Rotel should not matter and should be turned off since you are taking the video direct to you HDTV. However, the Rotel Audio settings will matter. I have my audio input set to optical 1 and the "Default Mode" is set to "PCM..." because I have just 2 channel audio and not surround sound.

For you I would expect that you would want your Audio MIDI Mac Mini Digital output set to "Encoded Digital Audio" which should pass-through the audio format that is on the material being sent through the optical cable.





Please let me know if any of this helps and please forgive me if you already know and tired these remedies.

Ed
post #1158 of 1207
Question about a older Rotel reciever. I'm moving my RSX-1057 into another zone with 4 speakers and will be using it primarily for music. What settings do i need to run to get music through all 4? It's defaulting to movie settings splitting signal into different speakers.
post #1159 of 1207
ERAU23 - thanks for the reply! I've tried 2 ch at bit rates 16, 20, and 24, and the encoded audio setting without change. These are the only settings available to me. , I also use optical 1 input on the Rotel and have tried setting HDMI video to OFF or HDMI 1. None worked.

I noticed you have Soundflower installed. Perhaps that's the key and I need to try that. It could have changed something even though it appears that it's not currently in use in your settings screenshot.

Terry
post #1160 of 1207
Terry,

Can you name the specific internet websites and internet TV channels that have Dolby Digital Multichannel and I will try to duplicate the problem with my set-up.

I will turn off my HDMI audio and use my optical input and see if I have the same problem.

Thanks,
Ed
post #1161 of 1207
ERAU23,

Netflix and Amazon Instant Video.
Edited by Terry78 - 2/1/13 at 1:44pm
post #1162 of 1207
Hi, all! New Rotel owner here.

I stumbled upon a great deal for two RB981s for $150 by a family who is moving to Hawaii and needed to get rid of them. I've been wanting a Rotel for a few years and here was my chance. I am currently using a Marantz SR5004 with an HK3490 as my external amp using the Marantz's pre-outs for the fronts in my 7.1 system. My speakers are Polk SDA 2A's and I'm absolutely in love with their sound.

Here's the thing. The HK sounded so warm and laid back whereas when I switch it out for one of the Rotels the sound is very forward, bordering on harsh. A little fatiguing, in fact. I tried the other Rotel and same thing.

This is my first experience with a real external so maybe I'm just not used to it. The Rotel does have a lot more power. The bass is more authoritative and everything seems to have more punch. Is it possible that the Marantz just "liked" the HK more? Does the 981 hate my SDAs? Would upgrading to the RDO 194 Polk tweeter calm down the highs? Could there be something wrong with both Rotels? I almost wish there was someone on Long Island that could listen to my system and maybe point out something I may be missing.

Anyways, any input would be appreciated.
post #1163 of 1207
Do you have any way of running a frequency sweep (near field) to see if anything is off?
post #1164 of 1207
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Do you have any way of running a frequency sweep (near field) to see if anything is off?

Not really. I'm just getting into the rabbit hole now and am still a novice. I supposed I could acquire one and burn it to a CD but how would I measure it?
post #1165 of 1207
Your discription about getting into the rabbit hole is oh so true.

Anyway.....you can start with getting a Radio Shack SPL meter, look up some generic corrections for low frequency and burn some test tones. More time intensive but it's on the cheap.

Omnimic is kind of an all in one solution that's plug and play. Cost more though.

Then you can go with an REW (room equalizer wizard). It's excellan freeware but you do have to buy some hardware including an SPL meter. Steep learning curve.

I've done the REW route and once you figure it out, it's fine. Just didn't like all the hook up wires. Then got the Omnimic system. Then used the Omnimic hardware on REW and liked it best.


At the very least, you can start with the Radio Shack SPL meter and test tones. You'll probably want that meter anyway for the long haul so even if you migrate to Omnimic, it's not like money wasted.
post #1166 of 1207
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Your discription about getting into the rabbit hole is oh so true.

Anyway.....you can start with getting a Radio Shack SPL meter, look up some generic corrections for low frequency and burn some test tones. More time intensive but it's on the cheap.

Omnimic is kind of an all in one solution that's plug and play. Cost more though.

Then you can go with an REW (room equalizer wizard). It's excellan freeware but you do have to buy some hardware including an SPL meter. Steep learning curve.

I've done the REW route and once you figure it out, it's fine. Just didn't like all the hook up wires. Then got the Omnimic system. Then used the Omnimic hardware on REW and liked it best.


At the very least, you can start with the Radio Shack SPL meter and test tones. You'll probably want that meter anyway for the long haul so even if you migrate to Omnimic, it's not like money wasted.


Yeah, I was kind of looking for feedback on whether or not my issue is out of the ordinary for a Rotel amp, this being a Rotel forum and all. However, I do appreciate your suggestions and will probably get into that stuff in the future. I'm not really a technical kind of guy but I did once wire up a Volkswagen starter to my snowblower so I didn't have to pull the cord but I wound up burning down the shed because I couldn't find any electric tape to insulate the wires so I used band-aids instead.

Or I may just go back to using the HK and sell these two 981s.
post #1167 of 1207
I'm surprised they sounded harsh, I have a RB990 and find it to be more on the mellow/fat side, at least compared to a Parasound I own. Are you running them bridged or in stereo?
post #1168 of 1207
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Originally Posted by sdolen View Post

I'm surprised they sounded harsh, I have a RB990 and find it to be more on the mellow/fat side, at least compared to a Parasound I own. Are you running them bridged or in stereo?

I'm just using one in stereo. Can't run these bridged being that the speakers (Polk SDAs) are 4ohms and also require a common ground.
post #1169 of 1207
IMHO, I would stay with what you like. I think of a quote from Sandy Gross from Definitive/Polk/Golden Ear, "if it sounds good to you, it sounds good to you" Sell the 981s, you can double your money.
post #1170 of 1207
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Originally Posted by sdolen View Post

IMHO, I would stay with what you like. I think of a quote from Sandy Gross from Definitive/Polk/Golden Ear, "if it sounds good to you, it sounds good to you" Sell the 981s, you can double your money.

+1

I'm surprised the amps make that much of a difference. I've heard differences in prepros and receivers, wasn't sure about amps. No you have me wanting to try the amp in my Anthem receiver vs. the Rotel RB985MKII that I've been using all along.
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