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post #871 of 1283
wondering if i would benefit from a seperate amp section the pio is rated 140w x 5 and the rotel is rated 120w x 5. i'm imagining the rotel is more true power. i have a full 5.1 vienna acoustics 4ohm setup and to get them humming i need to run the pio up past 3/4 volume which i don't like doing. you guys have any input if the rotel would offer better power and sound quality. any input would be greatly appreciated
post #872 of 1283
Usually receivers are nowhere close to the published specs and with you having to turn it up that high the avr may be close to clipping. Separate amps provide more headroom (usually), and you should benefit, especially with the 4 ohm load.
post #873 of 1283
so,the pio stating 140wpc compared to the rotel stating 120wpc. the rotel will definitely have more spl ouput and i should expect an improvement sq?
post #874 of 1283
I'm not a believer in amps sounding differently, but you should have more spl without clipping.
post #875 of 1283
Hello fellow Rotel owners. I'm a newbie to this thread and was wondering if anyone can help. As the title state's I am having issues with it. I recently purchased this used(online) last week. Through a store in Michigan. The problem is that when turning it on. I'm only getting the standby blue led light not the protection light for the speakers or a "click" sound. I have tried the trigger set up and still no sound or power going through the amp. I'm starting to fear that this could be a relay issue. Is there an easy fix to this? Or do I have to send this out to Rotel? In which case they will refuse to do because of their internet purchase policy. Any advice would be much appreciated.
post #876 of 1283
I know this might sound like a "Welll Duh" question for you so don't take offense as none is meant. Have you checked the following: I am under the assumption you made sure the pre-amp was on.
The correct output from the pre-amp is connected?
The correct source your trying to play is selected on the pre-amp?
The outputs on the pre-amp are functioning correctly?
The connection cables (unbalanced or balanced) don't have a short in them?
Does the pre-amp have a switch if your using balanced output that you need to turn on?
Do you have another pre-amp to try it with (or a receiver with preamp outputs)?

If all the connections are made correctly I always start checking other connections before I worry about a problem with the unit. I would suggest disconnecting just about everything but leave a CD (DVD or BluRay) connected to the pre-amp with only these wires in the back of the units. Turn it on and hopefully hear beautiful music.

I hope it all works out well for you as this is a wonderful sounding amplifier!
post #877 of 1283
Hello everyone,

I have a question about my RSX-1056 receiver.

I'd like to upgrade to a more recent receiver that has Audyssey. I was considering using an inexpensive Onkyo and then using my Rotel as the amplifier since it is much more powerful. (A true 75 watts X 5.)

Is it possible to use a second AVR as an amp? If so, how do I hook them up?

Thanks a lot!
Dan
post #878 of 1283
Ha that's funny! I recently dumped my Yamaha 3900 fpr the Rotel 1570 processor that has no EQ. I don't want ANY eq. I payed more for less features and no EQ lol.
post #879 of 1283
I found that EQ works really well in my room. And I really like Dolby dynamic volume a lot. What I'm missing is the power of my Rotel.

Does anyone know if I can hook it up to be a five channel amp for the Onkyo?
post #880 of 1283
Quote:
Originally Posted by dftkell View Post

Hello everyone,

I have a question about my RSX-1056 receiver.

I'd like to upgrade to a more recent receiver that has Audyssey. I was considering using an inexpensive Onkyo and then using my Rotel as the amplifier since it is much more powerful. (A true 75 watts X 5.)

Is it possible to use a second AVR as an amp? If so, how do I hook them up?

Thanks a lot!
Dan

I have a 1056 and it has one multi-channel analog input. All you would need from the Onkyo is a high enough model that has multi-channel analog pre-outs. The problem is that you have to go pretty high up the model range to get those outputs. With a quick look, the lowest one I saw that had it was the TX-NR708. That's already $899 MSRP - not really "an inexpensive Onkyo". You can get a little cheaper with Yamaha RX-V667 at $599 MSRP but it has YPAO, not Audyssey.

- Mike
post #881 of 1283
I have room treatments hence not needing the eq, although my 6 SVS subs are all eq'd by their ASEQ1.
post #882 of 1283
Hello, looks like we will have to wait until the end of the year before the RSP-1580 is
available.

"Hi Robert:
I am sorry to disappoint you but it has gone back to the drawing board. Late in the design process it was decided that a 4 x 4 HDMI matrix was not what was required and that we should have 6 HDMI inputs and 2 outputs so it is now looking like maybe September or October of this year.
Sincerely,
Scott Rundle
Rotel"
post #883 of 1283
I have an RSX 1065 that the front channel has quit working. Is there a fuse or anything I can check?

I had some remodeling work done last year, and the contractor had unhooked and moved the unit without asking. It was only moved to the next room where I covered and stored on a shelf for several months. I hooked it back up myself, and the front main speakers haven't worked since (yes, I've been a little busy to only get to troubleshooting now about 8 months later!).

I did of course first test the speakers. Nothing at all comes out in 2 channel mode, or out of the front main speakers in any of the other modes.

This unit has had the factory upgrades and button for the LED fade out issue.
post #884 of 1283
Quote:
Originally Posted by miimura View Post

I have a 1056 and it has one multi-channel analog input. All you would need from the Onkyo is a high enough model that has multi-channel analog pre-outs. The problem is that you have to go pretty high up the model range to get those outputs. With a quick look, the lowest one I saw that had it was the TX-NR708. That's already $899 MSRP - not really "an inexpensive Onkyo". You can get a little cheaper with Yamaha RX-V667 at $599 MSRP but it has YPAO, not Audyssey.

- Mike

I'd forget the MSRP-it's meaningless anyway. You can find that Onkyo receiver at dozens of places for much, much less. I have the Onyko TX-SR707 (last year's model) and for the money it's a great receiver!
post #885 of 1283
Quote:
Originally Posted by dftkell View Post

Hello everyone,

I have a question about my RSX-1056 receiver.

I'd like to upgrade to a more recent receiver that has Audyssey. I was considering using an inexpensive Onkyo and then using my Rotel as the amplifier since it is much more powerful. (A true 75 watts X 5.)

Is it possible to use a second AVR as an amp? If so, how do I hook them up?

Thanks a lot!
Dan


If you really feel you NEED Audyssey, I would suggest selling your 1056 and buying a Rotel 5 channel amp like the 1075, pre-owned. You would probably end up spending very little and have a better Rotel amp.

Shop around other brands. Especially if you use analog connections, Onkyo may not be you best bet.
post #886 of 1283
Hi everyone,

I just purchased a Rotel RSX 1550 receiver. I had the dealer update the 1550 with the latest releases of firmware and software before taking the 1550 home. I verified that the latest releases were installed.

I connected cable box via HDMI to Video 1 and Sony BD player via HDMI to Video 2. Video 1 and Video 2 appear to be correctly configured in the 1550 setup. The Sony BD worked fine but no picture or sound from the cable box. I checked the configuration of the cable box and it appeared to be OK. I swapped the HDMI connections on the 1550 with the cable box to HDMI 2 and the Sony BD to Video 1. Again the Sony BD worked fine, but no video or audio from the cable box. I switched the HDMI cables from the Sony BD player to the cable box and got the same results, Sony BD player worked fine but no video or audio from the cable box.

I also connected the tv's HDMI cable directly to the cable box and the tv worked fine. The issue seams to be with the 1550.

The cable box is a Motorola HD DVR QIP 7216 1 and the cable service is Frontier FIOS.

Previously, I was using a Denon 3808CI with the cable box connected to 3808CI with HDMI and the cable box worked fine. I reinstalled the 3808CI with HDMI to the cable box and again the cable box worked fine.

I love the SQ from the 1550 receiver, but can't live without the cable tv and really don't want to connect the cable box and tv to the 1550 via component cables.

Anyone have any thoughts? Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance!
post #887 of 1283
Quote:
Originally Posted by splatterific View Post

so,the pio stating 140wpc compared to the rotel stating 120wpc. the rotel will definitely have more spl ouput and i should expect an improvement sq?

To put this in perpective, I have decade-old Rotel RA-932 35 watt per channel stereo amp that I have owned for ages, doing a great job of running some Canton bookshelf speakers (rated ideal for 70-110 watt, presents 3-8 ohms). Threw those same speakers at a Pioneer VSX-33 that supposedly contains a 110Watt per channel amp. The Rotel does a better job. How depressing is that?

Dont even think about it - the Pioneer perform far less than its rating and the Rotel far more.
post #888 of 1283
I've been getting a lot of those responses It's a shame to think after spending that kind of money on a pio they would over state the wattage output like that but, I couldn't imagine a htr could compete with a separate amp section.
post #889 of 1283
Hello all, I am a new member to this forum as well as a recent Rotel owner. I decided to put together a vintage two channel system and have been very pleased with the results. I already had a Pioneer Elite VSX-49TXi so I decided to use it as a Pre/Pro and looked online for a Rotel amp. I found a RB-870BX and took a chance and bought it for $200.00 without auditioning the amp. I looked online to see if there were any reviews on the amp but found none. A few weeks ago I found a pair of 26 year old Polk SDA 2A speakers in mint condition and bought those. I set it up and played my reference music (Pink Floyd DSOM) and was blown away. This little amp brought those 4 ohm speakers to life. It has plenty of power, seemingly much more than the 200 watts per channel (into 4 ohm loads).
Anyone else here have this paticular amp?


Tim
post #890 of 1283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockduster View Post

Hi everyone,

I just purchased a Rotel RSX 1550 receiver. I had the dealer update the 1550 with the latest releases of firmware and software before taking the 1550 home. I verified that the latest releases were installed.

I connected cable box via HDMI to Video 1 and Sony BD player via HDMI to Video 2. Video 1 and Video 2 appear to be correctly configured in the 1550 setup. The Sony BD worked fine but no picture or sound from the cable box. I checked the configuration of the cable box and it appeared to be OK. I swapped the HDMI connections on the 1550 with the cable box to HDMI 2 and the Sony BD to Video 1. Again the Sony BD worked fine, but no video or audio from the cable box. I switched the HDMI cables from the Sony BD player to the cable box and got the same results, Sony BD player worked fine but no video or audio from the cable box.

I also connected the tv’s HDMI cable directly to the cable box and the tv worked fine. The issue seams to be with the 1550.

The cable box is a Motorola HD DVR QIP 7216 1 and the cable service is Frontier FIOS.

Previously, I was using a Denon 3808CI with the cable box connected to 3808CI with HDMI and the cable box worked fine. I reinstalled the 3808CI with HDMI to the cable box and again the cable box worked fine.

I love the SQ from the 1550 receiver, but can’t live without the cable tv and really don’t want to connect the cable box and tv to the 1550 via component cables.

Anyone have any thoughts? Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

I have the Rotel RSX 1560 and it works the same way that you're experiencing. HDMI switching is tricky and most cable boxes have trouble switching through a receiver due to the handshaking requirements.

Rotel's HDMI switching scheme (mux / demux) is that when you switch from one input to the other it disconnects the HDMI from the output to your TV. So when your cable box sees that the HDMI link to your TV has been broken it stops sending the signal (To prevent theft of content).

So, the only solution is in the power up sequencing of your Rotel relative to your cable box. Meaning that your cable box must see a direct connection direct to your HDTV through your receiver when it starts up. If you wanted to conduct an experiment, you could turn off your cable box completely. Turn on your Rotel and HDTV (let is settle for a minute) and set it to Video 1, then turn on the cable box. I think you will see that it will work with this sequencing. However, this is not practical for most people because you keep your cable box on 24/7 so that it can record your shows.

Therfore, I use the HDMI from the cable box direct to my HDTV and also send the SPDIF Coax or Optical to the Rotel and configure the video 1 input for audio via coax or optical. This is my work-around for this problem. It still allows you to get 5.1 audio and it helps with the quality of the audio. Because some say that HDMI has a lot of jitter which is fine for normal listening, but for critical listening it's not the best.

Good luck and report your findings.
post #891 of 1283
Hi,
i have a Problem with the osd menu on my Rotel RSX 1057! It is not possible for me to see it on the tv screen..Is there a possibiltiy to get the factory default without using the osd? I think some settings are wrong and that's the reason for my problem...
I'm from germany, so i'm sorry for my bad english..

skyp83
post #892 of 1283
How are you connecting from the amp to the tv? Are you going to an avr then to tv or direct to tv? I am not familiar with that amp because as stated I'm a new Rotel owner but I have hooked other gear up with osd. You probably need to assign input of the tv or avr depending how things are connected. Perhaps someone more familiar with your amp will chime in.


Tim
post #893 of 1283
I'm not familiar with that particular model, but the older models couldn't output the OSD via all outputs. Try the composite output and see if that works.
post #894 of 1283
hi tim...
all my sources go first to the avr and then to the Tv..my ps3 und sat tv receiver are connected on "hdmi in" and "Hdmi Out" to tv! i can see them on tv, but the osd doesn't works with hdmi.. Only analog signal like composite, s-video und component!
It's not only a problem with the osd, i've tried to connect an old dvd player with s-video and composite to avr and tv...no success!
all analog sources have this problem!
last month i moved into another flat and bought an new tv, before then it works without any problems!
and for this reason i need the factory defaults... but it's difficult without osd menu..

@crescent

I've tried the composite output.. Tv shows "No Signal"
post #895 of 1283
What is the make and model of you avr and t.v. Also,have you tried going direct to the tv from the amp? It really seems to me to be an avr issue.


Tim
post #896 of 1283
AVR: Rotel RSX 1057

Tv: Samsung PS50C6970

If i go direct to tv, i've no problems..whether hdmi, component, composite or s-video! all works...

with avr you mean av-receiver, yes?
post #897 of 1283
Have you tried this configuration. The area circled in red being cable hook up in from amplifier and the area circled in blue being out from reciever to t.v?

It looks like Page 26 of your reciever manual explains how to assign the reciever inputs.

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Tim
post #898 of 1283
thanks for the advice but it's the same way i tried to connect the video sources with avr and tv...I also tried this with the s-video and composite "Mon Out"

Quote:


It looks like Page 26 of your reciever manual explains how to assign the reciever inputs.

Yes, that's right but I can't change the inputs without the osd! that's the problem! I think there's something wrong, so my last hope are the factory defaults..another way to change the inputs i don't know...
post #899 of 1283
ok....I know that my reciever will only work with s-video to start and use osd and assign inputs. After inputs are assigned osd will work for other types of connections. Anyway good luck.


Tim
post #900 of 1283
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyp83 View Post

hi tim...
all my sources go first to the avr and then to the Tv..my ps3 und sat tv receiver are connected on "hdmi in" and "Hdmi Out" to tv! i can see them on tv, but the osd doesn't works with hdmi.. Only analog signal like composite, s-video und component!
It's not only a problem with the osd, i've tried to connect an old dvd player with s-video and composite to avr and tv...no success!
all analog sources have this problem!
last month i moved into another flat and bought an new tv, before then it works without any problems!
and for this reason i need the factory defaults... but it's difficult without osd menu..

@crescent

I've tried the composite output.. Tv shows "No Signal"

the RSX-1057 does not show the OSD onscreen via HDMI.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Screen Display: The RSX-1057 OSD
system is available on the TV monitor, when
using Composite, S-Video, or Component
Video connections from the RSX-1057 outputs
to the TV set. The OSD menus cannot be displayed
when using HDMI connections from
the RSX-1057 to the TV monitor.
NOTE: When using a progressive scan or 1080i
video signal from the Component Video outputs
of the RSX-1057, the TV monitor cannot
display the video signal and the OSD menus
at the same time. A “progressive” setting in the
Other Options setup menu allows the use of
the main OSD setup menus, even with progressive
or HDTV signals. When the main OSD
setup menus are activated, the progressive
scan video input is interrupted and restored
when the OSD menus are cancelled. The
temporary OSD information displays (such as
volume setting, etc.) are not displayed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I switched to the RSX-1550 and RSP-1570 quite a while back and don't remember the older menus off the top of my head.
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