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post #901 of 1285
RSP 1580

I spoke today with a Rotel spokesperon about the RSP 1580 He informed me that it will not be coming out. The processor did not meet the needs of the market. He said 4 hdmi inputs were not enough. It will be replaced with the RSP 1582. He did not know what video upconversion chip it will use. We should expect its introduction at CEDIA in September 2011.
post #902 of 1285
Is there going to be an RSP-1572? I am not going to upgrade my 1069 until they come out with a worthy replacement.
post #903 of 1285
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Originally Posted by Mark Harrison View Post
RSP 1580

I spoke today with a Rotel spokesperon about the RSP 1580 He informed me that it will not be coming out. The processor did not meet the needs of the market. He said 4 hdmi inputs were not enough. It will be replaced with the RSP 1582. He did not know what video upconversion chip it will use. We should expect its introduction at CEDIA in September 2011.
Would be better they throw in the towel.

They cant keep up in 2009 or 2010, but we should wait eagerly for their 2012 product when magically they will be back with the pace, having missed a generation or two?

Seriously....

There is plenty to work with in making amps. Why dont they just stick to that and stop pretending to be committed to the processor market? Besides the way receivers are evolving they are pretty much obsoleting the concept of a cheap low end AV processor. And this is before we factor Apple coming in here to take a chunk of the market - they already have their eyes on this with airplay, Apple TV and so on. Furhter moves are inevitable from them.

If Rotel is to come back they would need to rethink this thing and come out with something a leap ahead. Primising RSP 1582 is like promising me a brand new humvee in the age of hydrid cars.
post #904 of 1285
Anyone know when Rotel will be updating/releasing new products? I am debating between one of their processor/ amp or receiver, but hate to make the purchase now if they will be updating their line in a couple of months.
post #905 of 1285
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Originally Posted by Osamede View Post

Would be better they throw in the towel.


Besides the way receivers are evolving they are pretty much obsoleting the concept of a cheap low end AV processor.


Primising RSP 1582 is like promising me a brand new humvee in the age of hydrid cars.

Strange comments. cheap av processor? My 1570 wasn't cheap. Age of hybrids I think not. I'd take a humvee over a hybrid anyday thank you very much.
post #906 of 1285
yeah...his comparisons might be kinda out there, but i agree whole-heartedly with his criticisms of rotel pre-pros. while they sound terrific, they are always a year or two behind concerning cutting edge technology. if they could just jump into the present day feature-wise (audyssey xt-32, hdmi implementation, etc...) i'd be all over one.
post #907 of 1285
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Originally Posted by lefthandluke View Post

yeah...his comparisons might be kinda out there, but i agree whole-heartedly with his criticisms of rotel pre-pros. while they sound terrific, they are always a year or two behind concerning cutting edge technology. if they could just jump into the present day feature-wise (audyssey xt-32, hdmi implementation, etc...) i'd be all over one.

Yes, that is accurate.

The reason I bought the Rotel was to get away from those features such as room correction. I sold my Yammie 3900 and replaced it with the 1570. To me, less is more.
post #908 of 1285
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Originally Posted by d_m1010 View Post

Yes, that is accurate.

The reason I bought the Rotel was to get away from those features such as room correction. I sold my Yammie 3900 and replaced it with the 1570. To me, less is more.



...and that's cool, i understand where you're comin' from. i've got rotel amps (rb-1092 and rmb-1095) and power units (rlc-1080 and rlc-1040) and would have loved a rotel pre...but i felt for my needs i would be buying outdated technology. i ended up buying an integra dhc-80.2 (which sounds fantastic), but if rotel would have had the same features available, i would have bought a rotel unit...
post #909 of 1285
If you want to playback a Blue-ray in Dolby True HD with an RSP 1098, I assume you would have to run individual audio outs from a BD player that did the decoding into the analog ins on the 1098. My question is this considered "lossy"? Would a pre/pro that decoded Dolby True HD via HDMI inputs be considered "lossless"?
post #910 of 1285
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Originally Posted by Pete View Post

If you want to playback a Blue-ray in Dolby True HD with an RSP 1098, I assume you would have to run individual audio outs from a BD player that did the decoding into the analog ins on the 1098. My question is this considered "lossy"? Would a pre/pro that decoded Dolby True HD via HDMI inputs be considered "lossless"?

running the 7.1 analog outs of your BD player to the analog ins on your 1098 allow the player to process dolby true HD...you will get the "lossless" version you're after, but bass management will be handled by the player, which is usually crude and not as refined as the BM avaliable thru your pre-pro...
post #911 of 1285
Hey guys, I've got a question for you:

I haven't had any blu-ray discs that have been recorded at a 96k bit rate thus far, but the two I have recently bought have rythmic (every 2 seconds) audio drop outs in 5.1 with the Rotel 1570. Could this be a firmware issue, or an older HDMI cable that can't handle the signal?
post #912 of 1285
If its the 1st 2-3 seconds at the beginning, its a known limitation of the HDMI processing on board this unit - no firmware is going to correct this.

However, if its a 96K or High resolution track that seems to cut in and cut out throughout the song, there was a firmware fix that corrected this.

http://bwgroup-support.com/software.html
post #913 of 1285
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Originally Posted by paradise_newf View Post


However, if its a 96K or High resolution track that seems to cut in and cut out throughout the song, there was a firmware fix that corrected this.

http://bwgroup-support.com/software.html

This is exactly the problem. Thank you.

Is it rather simple to update the firmware?
post #914 of 1285
There are three separate downloads on the page. Would you recommend all of them or just the audio file?
post #915 of 1285
I'd recommend all of them. For some versions of the update, you need a specific version of at least 1 of them. So....save yourself the headache and do all 3.

You need access to a cable that recently have been included in all shipments of the 1570. Also, you need patience. If nothing appears to be happening, don't disconnect the serial cable. Have patience! The instructions included in the download are very good. Make sure you follow them step by step.

Finally, there is a Rotel setup config utility that will allow you to save all of your settings before you do the firmware updates and erase them all.
Once you update the firmware, you can simply add them back to your unit.
It can be found here: http://bwgroup-support.com/rotelsetup.html.
post #916 of 1285
Lavasoft adaware has gone crazy thinking these files are trojans. I've had to unblock them all to run them. Strange.
post #917 of 1285
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Originally Posted by Legairre View Post

I posted this on anther board but thought I'd post it here too in case anyone is interested in doing the mod.

I had a few scratches on the center faceplate of my black RMB-1095 (purchased before the silver ones came out) and figured I'd drop B&W/Rotel a call and see how much it would be for a new center faceplate. While I was at it I figured since my other two Rotel amps are silver series 10 I might as well get the silver center faceplate and button so all my amps match.

I found the email address for tech support and a gentleman by the name of Shane Kea was good enough to reply with the part numbers and a pic of the parts(see attachment).


For the RMB-1095 the parts numbers for the pic are: Attachment 125998

1 & 2 in the pic equal the center panel
Part #CS00075 (PANEL, FRONT CENTER BLACK RMB1095 $18.10)
Part #CS00076 (PANEL, FRONT CENTER SILVER RMB1095 $18.10)

4 & 5 in the pic equal the sub assembly
Part #CS00122 (PANEL, FRONT SUB BLACK RMB1095 $27.15)
Part #CS00123 (PANEL, FRONT SUB SILVER RMB1095 $27.15)

Not numbered in the pic (only because I didn't originally ask shane for the button) so I only have the silver button part number:

Part #CS00007 (BUTTON, POWER 14F ROUND SILVER $1.81)

As you can see it cost under $50 to turn my black amp into a silver one, so it matches all my other Rotel gear.

Just email service@rotel.com

I have about 25 pics of the whole process and I can give step by step instructions. I'll just post a few before and after pics now and post the rest later with with instructions.

When you're done your black 1095 will have the exact same look as a silver factory 1095. Blue LED and all.


hi legairre, i am in the process of converting 2 x RB1070 from black to silver. i read about your experience doing your RMB1095. In the post I saw you were going to paste more pictures about the step by step process (25 pics or so) can you flick me a link to this? I can't seem to find it. Thanks mate. Mr Modest.
post #918 of 1285
Hi Modest, I have a .doc with pics, but due to the pics it's to large to post on AVS. If you send me your email I'd be happy to send it to you.

Legairre
post #919 of 1285
Looking at up grading to the Rotel 1560 from my Cambridge Audio 650R

or i was considering Marantz mm8003/av8003

any thoughts...
post #920 of 1285
I have the 1570 and it's an outstanding unit. From what I understand the 1560 is the same but with amplification. I really enjoy it's SQ. I have no experience with the Marantz but it seems decent according to what I've read about it. I'm sure you'd be good either way.
post #921 of 1285
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Originally Posted by motogp34 View Post

Looking at up grading to the Rotel 1560 from my Cambridge Audio 650R

or i was considering Marantz mm8003/av8003

any thoughts...

I have the 1560 and enjoy it very much and would not trade it for the world. With that said the Marantz AV / MM 8003 set-up is a sweet sounding system, very refined and smooth.

I have two firends that had the Marantz and we performed a shoot out of sorts and the Marantz held its own from a pure sound quality stand point against some units at twice the price point.

When ever you compare Rotel to any other product it always comes down to the sound qaulity versus features. Rotel is known for their power supplies which has a direct effect on SQ. I will also say that Rotel provides very good support in terms of firmware updates and phone and dealer support. They also have long product life cycles (That is they don't release new products each year) which means your investment will retain value for many years. Another indication that I like to look at is how many units are for sales on the used market. They are very few Rotels on the used market.

I like the feature rich products with feature like room set-up because it provides some adjustments beyond speaker positioning, corssover, and delays. Features such as MultiXT are very nice to have in my opinion.

So at the end of the day it comes down to what is important to you and what are your capabilities. If you value SQ, have a good ear and some room flexiability (To change speakers and sub locations) then the Rotel is the way to go. If on the other hand your room has some contraints on speaker location and you have a tin ear from a tuning perspective, then I would say go with the feature rich products.

With all of that said either the Rotel or the Marantz would be good choices for different reasons.

All the best in your decision and enjoy
Ed
post #922 of 1285
is it worth the price point to go from a 1560 to 1570/1565 ?
post #923 of 1285
I had always wanted to go the separate route after countless receivers acting as a pre/pro for my outboard amps. I had no other reason than that and I'm glad I did, but I can't comment on 'is it worth it' having not used the 1560.
post #924 of 1285
Quote:
Originally Posted by motogp34 View Post

is it worth the price point to go from a 1560 to 1570/1565 ?

I myself have had many different receivers and mainly using them as a pre-amp only with rotel amps. Once I finally got the rotel rsp-1570 my jaw dropped!!!!

Even using same rotel amp as I used with all other receivers, the sound from the Rotel 1570 was soooo much better. It was so clear, crisp, open.

I will never go back.

My room however is a nightmare for sound, but rotel makes it sound awesome still.

I just recently purchased the 'NeptuneEQ' auto EQ device to go between 1570 and my amps, and WOW this made the rotel even sound better in my problem room.

Go for separates from rotel and you will never look back.
post #925 of 1285
can anyone recommend a rotel dealer that i can purchase online in the U.S. ?
post #926 of 1285
Unless something has changed Rotel doesn't allow online sales and as far as I know there aren't any online Rotel dealers.
post #927 of 1285
will the 1570 and 1560 be 3d ready with a FW update ?
post #928 of 1285
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Originally Posted by motogp34 View Post

will the 1570 and 1560 be 3d ready with a FW update ?

I have the 1570 and have newest firmware that passes 3D perfect.
post #929 of 1285
Just picked up the 1575, waiting to save some money to get the 1570...
post #930 of 1285
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Originally Posted by muad'dib View Post

I myself have had many different receivers and mainly using them as a pre-amp only with rotel amps. Once I finally got the rotel rsp-1570 my jaw dropped!!!!

Even using same rotel amp as I used with all other receivers, the sound from the Rotel 1570 was soooo much better. It was so clear, crisp, open.

I will never go back.

My room however is a nightmare for sound, but rotel makes it sound awesome still.

I just recently purchased the 'NeptuneEQ' auto EQ device to go between 1570 and my amps, and WOW this made the rotel even sound better in my problem room.

Go for separates from rotel and you will never look back.

Neptune EQ $4000
I`ll have to pass on that...
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