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post #961 of 1282
Hi Nelsun. I am replacing my B&K Ref 30 prepro from back in 2003. With component switching back then and no HDMI. I am almost a decade behind as well, however, there was always something BIG just around the corner so I have waited. First it was HDMI, then Lossless codecs, then the need for HDMI 1.4 for 3D. Finally all has come together for me with the Rotel RSP-1572. I almost went to the Integra DHC 80.3. I auditioned the Rotel RSP 1570 and loved it. I have a Blu Ray player with two outputs so one goes direct to TV monitor and other to Rotel. That way I can watch/listen on TV speakers or if I want to crank I will go through Rotel. Same with my Time warner cable box, Component direct to TV and HDMI to Rotel for same reason to NOT always need to run prepro for news or mundane viewing. You cannot believe how many cables I removed from older prepro. My 2 cents.
post #962 of 1282
Hi muad'dib and Sackrat,

Thanks for your comments! Looks like my B&K Pre Pro starting to die at the right time.

I was also waiting a bit before I jumped onto a new pre/pro with so many advances in the technologies recently, it does feel right.

I'm glad to hear you like your Rotel 1570 muad'dib.

So Sackrat, you actually have the 1572? I agree it's a good idea to have audio from the blu ray also go to the TV if you don't want to fire up the Pre-Pro. That's what I do now. So I'll try to do the same. I'm also curious about the USB port for the iPod.

Hopefully next week, I'll be able to actually go and see a 1572, the dealer only had the receiver on the demo floor.

Thanks again for your insights. I'm surprised there have not been any comments about anything lacking in the sound or some other aspect. Perhaps thats a good thing!

Oh yeah, I have to decide between black or silver finish. I wonder which is the most selected. I see pluses for either.
post #963 of 1282
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Originally Posted by Nelsun View Post

Hi muad'dib and Sackrat,

I'm also curious about the USB port for the iPod.

Oh yeah, I have to decide between black or silver finish. I wonder which is the most selected. I see pluses for either.


The front panel on Rotel RSP 1572 has a USB port that will allow you to connect iphone/ipod through a cable. Only a few basic functions operate on Rotel remote but iphone functions work too. Additionally, Rotel includes a Bluetooth USB dongle with the prepro to connect to front USB port. Simply pair the iphone bluetooth to the dongle and now you are wireless. Hope that helps with the port and FYI I am going with black front panel.
post #964 of 1282
Quote:
Hi Nelsun. I am replacing my B&K Ref 30 prepro from back in 2003. With component switching back then and no HDMI. I am almost a decade behind as well, however, there was always something BIG just around the corner so I have waited. First it was HDMI, then Lossless codecs, then the need for HDMI 1.4 for 3D. Finally all has come together for me with the Rotel RSP-1572. I almost went to the Integra DHC 80.3. I auditioned the Rotel RSP 1570 and loved it. I have a Blu Ray player with two outputs so one goes direct to TV monitor and other to Rotel. That way I can watch/listen on TV speakers or if I want to crank I will go through Rotel. Same with my Time warner cable box, Component direct to TV and HDMI to Rotel for same reason to NOT always need to run prepro for news or mundane viewing. You cannot believe how many cables I removed from older prepro. My 2 cents.

Can you tell me if you are having any issues with the 1572. Drop outs, crackling in
speakers or delays when playing music or blue ray movies..Thanks
post #965 of 1282
Thanks Sackrat! That info about a blue tooth dongle was news to me!

The dealer I spoke with also recommended using an iphone/ipod dock from pure.com called the I-20. He says that will collect the pure data and better process the signal for the highest quality.

The dealer also suggested that because I will have a 25 foot run from where I place the processor and where my monitor is, I'd need a high quality and high speed HDMI cable. I am trying to read up more on that and understand that. And whether a high quality HDMI cable really has to cost $200 for that length in this day and age! If I look at the longer 25 and 30 foot long high end HDMI cable from monoblock.com, they are under $100.00. So more research is needed here as I learn more about HDMI.
post #966 of 1282
[quote=Nelsun;21099318]Thanks Sackrat! That info about a blue tooth dongle was news to me!

The dealer I spoke with also recommended using an iphone/ipod dock from pure.com called the I-20. He says that will collect the pure data and better process the signal for the highest quality.

elysandi: first so as to not confuse anyone I have not received my unit so cannot comment on clicks etc. However, I have a printed RSP-1572 Owners Manual.

Regarding the bluetooth dongle I quote from the manual, "NOTE: Not all bluetooth dongles will operate with the unit. Please use the dongle supplied with the Rotel". So Nelsun, I would wait to use the Rotel first and if you are not satisfied with the quality then you can try the pure.com I-20 dongle.

Nelsun: There are HDMI docks/boosters for the longer runs and or multiple runs you say you will require. They are specifically made to do what you need. Try without boost first to see how your signal strength passes. The latest HDMI cables will say "Hi speed HDMI" on the cable. Shop around.

Lastly, on a lark, I went to Rotel No America site and low and behold the RSP-1572 is listed under home theater processors. I was not able to download the Owners manual or rear panel drawing from the Rotel website today. However, I wager it might be up by the end of the week. Just a guess.
post #967 of 1282
Another change to the RSP-1572 is that it uses a different remote control than did the RSP-1570. The 1570 remote had a flip-open compartment with hidden buttons and the 1572 remote does not. The designation for the newer remote is Rotel RR-CX94.

As you might imagine the owners manual for the 1570 and 1572 are formatted alike. Not my favorite way to present data but once you use it a little it becomes a little easier. A total of 47 pages for the 1572 today, however, I have had the manual for two weeks now and Rotel might add, delete, or alter what was written awhile back. I hope Rotel hits a home run with their new pre/pro.
post #968 of 1282
Thanks, I'll be looking into HDMI cables and such. And reading the manual. Plus I have an appointment to audition the 1572 this weekend.
post #969 of 1282
I ordered the 1572 from the dealer. Got the black one too.

One thing I was going to check on is the dealer recommends the Kordz brand HDMI cable. I have a 25 or so foot run from the Rotel to the TV. This cable is very expensive, but the sales guy, who wasn't forcing me to buy, said it is a good quality cable and will easily transmit the data that length. The Rotel's output is powerful enough that a booster won't be needed. From my initial research, i haven't seen too many high speed cables cheaper yet. I'll keep looking.

The dealer did recommend the blu ray be located next to the Rotel with a short HDMI going to the blu ray player then from the Rotel to the TV is the 25 foot run. I just realized this set up would not allow the audio from the blu ray go to the TV if the Rotel is off. So I still leave the blu ray next to the TV and have the long run HDMI cable back to the Rotel for audio when I want it.

Or I use a long run of conventional audio cables from the blu ray to the TV if I place the blu ray next to the Rotel.

I am wondering if you guys have experiences with Kordz and or suggest another HDMI cable that is 1.4 compatible and high speed. This Kordz cable will set me back close to $300, but I know it will do the job and probably be hassle free. So it could be worth it.
post #970 of 1282
You don't need to spend $300 on a HDMI cable. Order one from Monoprice for 1/10 the price and you may find out you saved a lot.
post #971 of 1282
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Originally Posted by Nelsun View Post

I ordered the 1572 from the dealer. Got the black one too.

One thing I was going to check on is the dealer recommends the Kordz brand HDMI cable. I have a 25 or so foot run from the Rotel to the TV. This cable is very expensive, but the sales guy, who wasn't forcing me to buy, said it is a good quality cable and will easily transmit the data that length. The Rotel's output is powerful enough that a booster won't be needed. From my initial research, i haven't seen too many high speed cables cheaper yet. I'll keep looking.

The dealer did recommend the blu ray be located next to the Rotel with a short HDMI going to the blu ray player then from the Rotel to the TV is the 25 foot run. I just realized this set up would not allow the audio from the blu ray go to the TV if the Rotel is off. So I still leave the blu ray next to the TV and have the long run HDMI cable back to the Rotel for audio when I want it.

Or I use a long run of conventional audio cables from the blu ray to the TV if I place the blu ray next to the Rotel.

I am wondering if you guys have experiences with Kordz and or suggest another HDMI cable that is 1.4 compatible and high speed. This Kordz cable will set me back close to $300, but I know it will do the job and probably be hassle free. So it could be worth it.

I use these high speed HDMI from monoprice for a 25ft run from my Pioneer to my projector and my projector is very picky with long cables, but these work perfectly.

Monoprice doesn't offer a 25ft high speed, so just connect this 15ft high speed male to male cable.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

with this 10ft high speed male to female
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #972 of 1282
Thanks for your input guys!

Yes, I agree $300 is a lot for a cable. And that was a 30 foot cable or so. I just remeasured the run, taking into account for bends, the path along the floor and up the wall and into the cabin where the Rotel will be and down the path into the cabinet the TV is in. That works out to 40 feet.

I have purchased cables from monoprice before, so I am aware of them. When I looked up their HDMI cables, I didn't see any long cables that were high speed. I hadn't considered joining shorter cables. That is a good idea. I guess the only concern is that it's a potential point of failure. I will look at pricing their cables though to see if I can get a 40 ft run of high speed HDMI cables by combining.
post #973 of 1282
Monoprice, Bluejeans both have good cables for a fair price. I have done a few long HDMI using BlueJeans cable and have had no issues.
post #974 of 1282
[quote=Nelsun;21115742]I ordered the 1572 from the dealer. Got the black one too.

Wow, that is good news. Nelsun, how long a wait to receive your Rotel? And, did you use the new remote and what are your thoughts regarding sound and user friendliness. I am still waiting for my RSP-1572. Good Luck
post #975 of 1282
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Originally Posted by Nelsun View Post

Thanks for your input guys!

Yes, I agree $300 is a lot for a cable. And that was a 30 foot cable or so. I just remeasured the run, taking into account for bends, the path along the floor and up the wall and into the cabin where the Rotel will be and down the path into the cabinet the TV is in. That works out to 40 feet.

I have purchased cables from monoprice before, so I am aware of them. When I looked up their HDMI cables, I didn't see any long cables that were high speed. I hadn't considered joining shorter cables. That is a good idea. I guess the only concern is that it's a potential point of failure. I will look at pricing their cables though to see if I can get a 40 ft run of high speed HDMI cables by combining.

I was looking for some speaker cable on this site and noticed these HDMI cables. Long runs for a fairly reasonable price. I have ordered from this guy before, as well.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...-Longer/1.html
post #976 of 1282
Hi Sackrat,

The dealer said the Rotel will arrive in about 2 weeks. When I auditioned the 1572 and 5 channel amp, it was hooked up to the same B&W 805 speakers I have. But they are the newest version. I thought music sounded great! Better then my system and I listened to some of my own CDs. Plus he set up the system well for 2 channel. I tried the demo blu ray disc they had. I played a sequence from a X Men film, a film I've not seen. There it sounded really weak. But I suspect because it was still set for 2 channel and no rears were connected. I didn't mess with settings. I figure it has to sound as good for movies once the right settings are used.

Thanks guys for the added suggestions for HDMI cables. I keep forgetting about Blue Jeans. I'll explore what they have. The prices at that accesories4less site look unreal!

I have to wonder about the main point my dealer mentioned for the Kordz cables over the other brands, he said they have much higher quality in the connectors. They don't solder, but do a cold weld, if I remember that right. So they are more robust and won't fail.
post #977 of 1282
Watch exactly what you buy at accesories4less. The website is misleading. That cheap HDMI is only good for 9M if that. They even tell you in the fine print that you need a different cable to go the distance (that I could not find listed on the site). The cable themselves look fine, just be sure you actually get the right gage cable.

Proper soldering is fine. In fact, unless the metals are the same, a solder joint is better because it is airtight. Anytime you have dis-similar metals, you run the risk of electrolysis.

There are a lot of overly expensive cables on the market and all they are is hype. Takes a fair amount of weeding sometimes to get at the truth.
post #978 of 1282
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Originally Posted by 1William View Post

Watch exactly what you buy at accesories4less. The website is misleading. That cheap HDMI is only good for 9M if that. They even tell you in the fine print that you need a different cable to go the distance (that I could not find listed on the site). The cable themselves look fine, just be sure you actually get the right gage cable.

Proper soldering is fine. In fact, unless the metals are the same, a solder joint is better because it is airtight. Anytime you have dis-similar metals, you run the risk of electrolysis.

There are a lot of overly expensive cables on the market and all they are is hype. Takes a fair amount of weeding sometimes to get at the truth.

I've purchased speakers, cables & a receiver from AC4L, all with no issues. If you have a question, or are unsure of what you are buying, it is best to call during the week and ask for Mark, the owner. He's always shot straigt with me and I've always gotten exactly what I ordered. Just sayin.....
post #979 of 1282
^^ That makes sense^^
post #980 of 1282
I am really stupid! I am as I said, a decade behind and I didn't fully understand HDMI.

I just read an article on HDMI cable and what it is you need per your set-up. I had it in my head that since this new Rotel has the new HDMI 1.4 spec, I needed high speed 1.4 qualified cable.

So if I read it right, high speed is only necessary for 3D blu ray and the upcoming 4K video format.

So while the HDMI cable my dealer recommended is still $380, it's totally compatible for high speed up to 5 meters if I got the 5 meter long cable. But any longer they don't qualify for high speed. They have a more expensive cable that will go the distance at high speed.

I won't be doing 3D and the 4K stuff is out there still.

So I understand now that if I can get a 40 foot long cable at standard speed and hopefully 1.4 capable, then I am set for now. If I got 3D, maybe the cable can deal with it. So Blue Jeans or monoprice can probably fulfill my need.

Did I get it right?
post #981 of 1282
Hey guys, does anyone knows when is the RSX-1562 been released and its price?

Regards
post #982 of 1282
Looking at a lightly used RMB-1076 for a distributed audio set-up. It will be used mostly for party music but occasionally I'll be listening with the volume up a bit on my triad InCeiling MiniMonitors.

Any thoughts on this amp over the newer 1506 which is only 60 watts and class a/b...
post #983 of 1282
Hey guys,

I am about to buy an HDMI cable for the Rotel. The only thing this cable won't do is pass ethernet. Since the Rotel is capable of 1.4 HDMI, I wanted to get a cable that will cover as many functions as possible. And I think the only thing ethernet will do is pass things like video streamed from netflix and things like that. Am I right? And I think I can get by without that. My Blu Ray player is capable of that and I'll be upgrading to one that has wifi anyway.

The only thing I'm wondering about is if the ethernet would be handy for any times the Rotel may get a firmware update. If such things occur for Pre-Pros? The RSP-1572 has a USB port anyway, so updates could be installed on a USB stick anyway.
post #984 of 1282
Hi all,

I currently own a RB 1572. Great sounding amp. Anyways I have installed in my Salamander cabinet(triple 30 with centre shelf) with 3/4 inch clearance above and the sides have plenty of room around it. It seems to get pretty warm to hot but nothing where I'm pulling my hand away at the touch of the amp. Nonetheless warmer than usual for a Class D amp which I thought remained cool to the touch.

My question is: Am I causing potential damage to the amp with 3/4 inch clearance? Any suggestions, comments, and/or personal experience are welcome. Thanks in advance.

audiomanz
post #985 of 1282
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Originally Posted by audiomanz View Post

Hi all,

I currently own a RB 1572. Great sounding amp. Anyways I have installed in my Salamander cabinet(triple 30 with centre shelf) with 3/4 inch clearance above and the sides have plenty of room around it. It seems to get pretty warm to hot but nothing where I'm pulling my hand away at the touch of the amp. Nonetheless warmer than usual for a Class D amp which I thought remained cool to the touch.

My question is: Am I causing potential damage to the amp with 3/4 inch clearance? Any suggestions, comments, and/or personal experience are welcome. Thanks in advance.

audiomanz

Heat is never good for electronics. Don't take any chances. Here's an idea I have these cooling a RMB-1095 and this Class AB never gets more than very slightly warm anymore. I also have it is a tight cabinet space.

http://www.coolerguys.com/codublfancoc.html
post #986 of 1282
Very good idea RickD1225 however I don't think the fans would fit unless they are under 3/4 inches high. One would do the trick most likely but never know it is something to consider for sure. Do they have rubber feet to prevent scratching?
post #987 of 1282
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Originally Posted by audiomanz View Post

Very good idea RickD1225 however I don't think the fans would fit unless they are under 3/4 inches high. One would do the trick most likely but never know it is something to consider for sure. Do they have rubber feet to prevent scratching?

They won't, they are 25 mm or 1 inch thick. Too bad these are great little cooling fans.
post #988 of 1282
Just another Rotel owner posting up here.

I'm running a Rotel RMB-1075 amp and recently added the RB-1572 for my front speakers (Vienna Acoustic Bach Grands) as the 5 CH amp is a bit under powered for those speakers. Prior to the 1075 I was powering the speakers with the internal amp of my old Denon 2805 and kept having problems. I'm a slow learner, what can I say...LOL However, this addition made a huge difference.

I am now going to replace my Denon with a pre/pro and I am definitely leaning towards the Rotel RSP-1570 although it doesn't have a tuner. The Integra DHC-40.2 caught my eye and now I have to make that difficult purchase decision.
post #989 of 1282
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Originally Posted by MADCSRT8 View Post

Just another Rotel owner posting up here.

I'm running a Rotel RMB-1075 amp and recently added the RB-1572 for my front speakers (Vienna Acoustic Bach Grands) as the 5 CH amp is a bit under powered for those speakers. Prior to the 1075 I was powering them with the internal amp of my old Denon 2805 and kept having problems. I'm a slow learner, what can I say...LOL However, this addition made a huge difference.

I am now going to replace my Denon with a pre/pro and I am definitely leaning towards the Rotel RSP-1570 although it doesn't have a tuner. The Integra DHC-40.2 caught my eye and now I have to make that difficult purchase decision.

Not to make your choice tougher, but have you considered the Marantz AV-7005? It's on my short list to replace a Denon 2809 that's just acting as a pre. I too am using the RMB-1075 for power.
post #990 of 1282
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Originally Posted by tjayl View Post

Not to make your choice tougher, but have you considered the Marantz AV-7005? It's on my short list to replace a Denon 2809 that's just acting as a pre. I too am using the RMB-1075 for power.

I haven't but I will! Thanks for the suggestion!
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