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DirecTV to "exceed what a TV can support"

post #1 of 29
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http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/l...ss-conference/

"They have plans to exceed what a TV can support and believe they are exceeding other providers...We are going to pursue things that add value for our customers."


I read into "exceed what a TV can support" to mean that the PQ from DirecTV's new national HD channels will be a full 1920x1080i with the same or more bandwidth than what OTA HD channels provide using DirecTV's MPEG 4 service.

I hope this is what it means. Otherwise, what can it mean?
post #2 of 29
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Originally Posted by Thebarnman View Post

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/l...ss-conference/

"They have plans to exceed what a TV can support...

I hope this is what it means. Otherwise, what can it mean?

We plan to exceed what a TV can support. We don't know what that means but we totally want it.
post #3 of 29
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Originally Posted by William View Post

We plan to exceed what a TV can support. We don't know what that means but we totally want it.



I need a pic while you say this
post #4 of 29
They might be talking about the 720p tv's. Even those can't resolve 1280x1080.
post #5 of 29
Guess they will be the first to launch 1080p?
post #6 of 29
Maybe they are just talking about windows functionality? I know the new DVR can be hooked up to your computer for some sort of functionality (haven't done it, don't care to)
post #7 of 29
My guess is 1280 x 1280.
post #8 of 29
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

My guess is 1280 x 1280.

Don't laugh, but Hitachi announced a 1280x1280 hdtv yesterday.
post #9 of 29
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Originally Posted by Thebarnman View Post

They have plans to exceed what a TV can support

They didn't say WHICH tv.
post #10 of 29
I think they were talking about EDTV
post #11 of 29
Please remember the age old saying,

Assuming makes an ASS out of U and ME.

Let's let DirecTV make their nebulous marketing statements. The ball is in their court right now. After the launch of the new sats and the new HD channels, then we can see what happens. I just wonder how many HR20's I'll need to record all those new channels in HD. Hmmm.
post #12 of 29
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Originally Posted by stephenC View Post

I just wonder how many HR20's I'll need to record all those new channels in HD. Hmmm.

I'm pretty sure the mpg4 takes up a lot less space than mpg2. How many hours total it could store, I don't know.
post #13 of 29
They already do. That's why you have to have a box on top!
post #14 of 29
I think it means their new HD receiver will weigh 640 pounds and measure 22" wide by 31" deep. Dont know of any tvs that can support that.
post #15 of 29
Help me Steve Jobs you're my only hope.
post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by ucsbgaucho View Post

I think it means their new HD receiver will weigh 640 pounds and measure 22" wide by 31" deep. Dont know of any tvs that can support that.

well, based on that conference and how they simply invented hd channels nobody's heard of yet (not even the channel owners), then i suppose anything is possible...
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by ucsbgaucho View Post

I think it means their new HD receiver will weigh 640 pounds and measure 22" wide by 31" deep. Dont know of any tvs that can support that.


What a bunch of crock! Let's see what happens when marketing meets technology for a latte after work.

My display cannot support vaporware, so they've already met their goals!
post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by talbain View Post

well, based on that conference and how they simply invented hd channels nobody's heard of yet (not even the channel owners), then i suppose anything is possible...

It appears that D* DID know what they were talking about.

NBCU, Turner, CNN to Launch HD Networks
CNN HD to debut in September
By James Hibberd Television Week January 9, 2007

USA Network, Sci Fi Channel, TBS, Cartoon Network, CNN and other channels are readying to launch simulcast high-definition networks by the end of the year.

CNN announced plans to launch an HD network in September at its opening session at the Television Critics Association's semiannual press tour, while an NBC Universal spokesperson confirmed the company will launch a "suite of HD networks." NBCU would not set an exact time table. A Turner spokesperson also confirmed HD networks for TBS and Cartoon Network.

The news comes a day after DirecTV's announcement at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas that it has HD carriage agreements with 60 cable networks. DirecTV cited USA, Sci Fi, FX, CNN, Cartoon Network, TBS and several other channels among the brands with agreements. The satellite provider plans to launch 100 HD channels by the end of the year as part of its strategy to expand its HD offerings.

Though all major cable networks are eventually expected to have HD simulcasts, none of the networks DirecTV cited had previously announced plans to launch HD networks.

CNN announced its plans Tuesday morning at its panel. Spokespeople for NBC Universal and Turner confirmed plans to launch their HD networks shortly after. A spokesman for Fox Cable Networks Group representing FX had not yet returned a call.

The confirmations represent the largest number of networks to commit to HD upgrades all at once. DirecTV's launching of two new satellites in 2007, combined with the satellite service's push for more HD content, has been a tipping point for a host of major networks previously biding their time before taking the plunge to HD.

The moves will dramatically expand the number of HD viewing options for consumers, who have long griped about the scarcity of HD content.

http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=11336
post #19 of 29
"Simulcast" HD channels is the big (good) news.

People love to bash D* (I jump all over them for their HD-Lite), but they are doing exactly what they've said they were going to do for the past 3 or 4 years. They may spin, etc., but they have a strong record of only promising what they can deliver. (PQ marketing aside)
post #20 of 29
Spinning is one thing. DirecTV's DBS competition got its fans all excited last fall by saying they were about the add RSNs in HD.

Scott G took time out from satellite guys to post on a thread here with that information. Then, when the HD RSNs didn't materialize, they told Scott there were some "technical glitches" they were working to clear up quickly.

Finally, yesterday at CES, Dish said there was not enough HD content on the RSNs to warrant carriage yet.

I'll take some spinning to that kind of conduct anytime.
post #21 of 29
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Originally Posted by ucsbgaucho View Post

I think it means their new HD receiver will weigh 640 pounds and measure 22" wide by 31" deep. Dont know of any tvs that can support that.

Good point.
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by ucsbgaucho View Post

I think it means their new HD receiver will weigh 640 pounds and measure 22" wide by 31" deep. Dont know of any tvs that can support that.

Aw, ya beat me to it. For color, I was going to add in a comment about them piling on the BS until the TVs CRT implodes...
post #23 of 29
Could mean PC stuff.....
post #24 of 29
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Originally Posted by Thebarnman View Post

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/l...ss-conference/

"They have plans to exceed what a TV can support and believe they are exceeding other providers...We are going to pursue things that add value for our customers."


I read into "exceed what a TV can support" to mean that the PQ from DirecTV's new national HD channels will be a full 1920x1080i with the same or more bandwidth than what OTA HD channels provide using DirecTV's MPEG 4 service.

I hope this is what it means. Otherwise, what can it mean?

According to what "a talking head" reported on another website, cited here, which often gets info wrong, D* stated they ALREADY EXCEED WHAT A TV CAN SUPPORT....thus this was their defense of HDLITE - saying that most TV could not support the HDLITE resolution that they deliever.
post #25 of 29
Just to update the previous post, FX and Speed are definitely doing HD nets as well. Also, some nets said they were taken off guard by DTV's announcement:

http://blogs.tvweek.com/?cat=12

(about mid-way down)
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

Could mean PC stuff.....

That's one thing I'm hoping for. Or, they do what Sky-HD is doing, high-bitrate, properly flagged 1080i MPEG4.
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by William View Post

We plan to exceed what a TV can support. We don't know what that means but we totally want it.

That may be the new 'all digital quality' slogan.
post #28 of 29
This is interesting considering this;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=726065

Maybe it means the compression will be so high, no TV will be able to decode it.
post #29 of 29
Their wording bothers me. My old Infocus X1 projector "supported" up to 1080i. It couldn't display it in full resolution, but it supported it.

It seems what they're saying is they are going provide a service that no one can see on their TV's.

Brilliant!!!

Art
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