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post #211 of 1801
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Originally Posted by lurkey2k6 View Post

Im have been following this thread for quite a while (atleast since the day costco's wallet coupon book came out). Im planning to buy this one, just had a quick question - does this tv come with Tuner at all? Will it be able to work with any off the air channel if I have a HD antenna?

thanks,

Yes! ATSC, NTSC & QAM
post #212 of 1801
The Costco coupon can be used only at one of the 2 Costco Home Stores or via Online purchase. These TV's will not be at any of the regular Costco Stores. I'm in Seattle so I plan to go the Kirkland Home Store and see what this TV looks like. In was told they wouldn't put it on display until the coupon starts.
post #213 of 1801
So can this TV accept 1080p hdmi input or not?
post #214 of 1801
Look at the PDF file on their website: it has a backpanel diagram. The diagram has no RGB input.
post #215 of 1801
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Originally Posted by paleman27 View Post

Look at the PDF file on their website: it has a backpanel diagram. The diagram has no RGB input.

But what does a lack of RGB input mean? Does that mean the 2 HDMI inputs will not accept 1080p?
post #216 of 1801
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Originally Posted by BWJS View Post

The Costco coupon can be used only at one of the 2 Costco Home Stores or via Online purchase. These TV's will not be at any of the regular Costco Stores. I'm in Seattle so I plan to go the Kirkland Home Store and see what this TV looks like. In was told they wouldn't put it on display until the coupon starts.

Yes they are available at most COSTCO warehouses
post #217 of 1801
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Originally Posted by Technique View Post

But what does a lack of RGB input mean? Does that mean the 2 HDMI inputs will not accept 1080p?

RGB is the 8 or 9 pin cable that outputs from your computer. This set, apparently can not receive it with a male 2 male RGB cable
post #218 of 1801
"Where the Vizio really disappoints me is night, shadows and interior shots/scenes... there is little to no detail as the set with a limited contrast ratio of 800:1 (dynamic 1600:1) is simply incapable of producing."

I bought the Vizio 47 almost two weeks ago. I totally agree with the above statement.
post #219 of 1801
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Originally Posted by paleman27 View Post

RGB is the 8 or 9 pin cable that outputs from your computer. This set, apparently can not receive it with a male 2 male RGB cable

hehe, I know what an RGB cable is... My original question was:

Does this TV support 1080p input via HDMI?


I don't plan to use RGB... I haven't owned a computer that uses RGB in years... All my computers use DVI, so I have DVI to HDMI cables...

But really, I just want to know if the PS3 I hook up to this TV will work on 1080p... I suspect it will... Wouldn't make sense that it wouldn't...
post #220 of 1801
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Originally Posted by Technique View Post

hehe, I know what an RGB cable is... My original question was:

Does this TV support 1080p input via HDMI?


I don't plan to use RGB... I haven't owned a computer that uses RGB in years... All my computers use DVI, so I have DVI to HDMI cables...

But really, I just want to know if the PS3 I hook up to this TV will work on 1080p... I suspect it will... Wouldn't make sense that it wouldn't...

Where can i get a laptop with DVI output?
post #221 of 1801
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Originally Posted by paleman27 View Post

Where can i get a laptop with DVI output?

My dell docking station has DVI output...
post #222 of 1801
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Originally Posted by hesty View Post

I am somewhat new to the HDTV scene. I am very interested in the Philips 47", but many of you have mentioned its lack of 1920X1080 for computer gaming. I am not a gamer, but I would like to plug in my computer for picture viewing and internet surfing. Will I notice the difference in 1024x768 vs 1920x1080? I don't even know if my computer needs a special graphics card to send a 1080 signal. I was looking at the Westinghouse 47" that is on sale at BB too, but besides this computer signal issue, the Philips looks like a better set.

Please give me your thoughts guys!
Thanks


Guys! Please throw me a bone.

I just want to display digital pictures and have them look good on a 47" lcd monitor. Is this a lcd that would work for me? If you don't want to answer, just point me in a direction to get answers about connecting a laptop to a lcd tv and what I need to look for. All this 1080i, 1080p, RGB, DVI to HDMI talk is really bringing me down. I know nothing...

Thanks.
post #223 of 1801
I am going to Costco Home in a few hours I am sure I'll get to see some of you there
post #224 of 1801
The Costco website today doesn't say anything about whether the TV accepts only 1080i input. It does list 1080p as "Panel Resolution". Wouldn't Costco have said 1080i if it was only capable of accepting 1080i max?
post #225 of 1801
^^ this is the sticking point for me as well.

i need to know:

whether the set will display 1920x1080 from a computer

why it lists 1080p all over the place but says 1080i on the site
post #226 of 1801
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Originally Posted by klas View Post

I am going to Costco Home in a few hours I am sure I'll get to see some of you there

For all the folks who will be able to see this tv on display in Costco home stores please report back, as it will immensely help us unlucky folks who will have to bite the bullet without seeing..
post #227 of 1801
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post


why it lists 1080p all over the place but says 1080i on the site

I guess thats the million dollar question we all are trying to figure out..
post #228 of 1801
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Originally Posted by lurkey2k6 View Post

I guess thats the million dollar question we all are trying to figure out..

well it's the $64,000 question

it's an LCD panel, so for me the $1,000,000 questions is whether it'll do 1920x1080 from my PC

but we're not supposed to be discussing price so...
post #229 of 1801
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post

well it's the $64,000 question

it's an LCD panel, so for me the $1,000,000 questions is whether it'll do 1920x1080 from my PC

but we're not supposed to be discussing price so...

Hopefully folks coming back from the home store tonight will be able to tell us
post #230 of 1801
My take on the 47" specs is that the display actually is 1080p by converting every video source to 1080p. The specs are clear (by omission) that it does not accept a 1080p source, however, and will also convert 1080i to 1080p. I'm going to have to pass on this one. Come on Costco - we want the real thing!
post #231 of 1801
I know the coupon is only for this week... BUT, does costco typically revive these coupons/discounts every few weeks? Or should we expect to see this TV at $2300 for a while after the coupon expires?
post #232 of 1801
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Originally Posted by Technique View Post

I know the coupon is only for this week... BUT, does costco typically revive these coupons/discounts every few weeks? Or should we expect to see this TV at $2300 for a while after the coupon expires?

Last year Costco kept bringing back the Sceptre TVs at lower prices than the original coupon, so only Mr. Costco probably knows.
post #233 of 1801
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Originally Posted by Technique View Post

I know the coupon is only for this week... BUT, does costco typically revive these coupons/discounts every few weeks? Or should we expect to see this TV at $2300 for a while after the coupon expires?

Eventually, they drop the price but that usually takes 1-2 months
post #234 of 1801
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Originally Posted by earthbound View Post

My take on the 47" specs is that the display actually is 1080p by converting every video source to 1080p. The specs are clear (by omission) that it does not accept a 1080p source, however, and will also convert 1080i to 1080p. I'm going to have to pass on this one. Come on Costco - we want the real thing!

i just dont get how a panel could have a native res of 1920x1080 but not be able to accept/display that. it doesn't have to scale or upconvert, just play!
post #235 of 1801
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post

i just dont get how a panel could have a native res of 1920x1080 but not be able to accept/display that. it doesn't have to scale or upconvert, just play!

It's only been recently that some 1080 sets allow you to select a bit-by-bit mode to eliminate overscan. IMHO marketing a set as 1080p that either cannot accept 1080p signals, or that overscans 1080p causing loss of detail should be criminalized. The Sceptre 1080i I had (it blew up and was returned to Costco) overscanned badly.
post #236 of 1801
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It's only been recently that some 1080 sets allow you to select a bit-by-bit mode to eliminate overscan. IMHO marketing a set as 1080p that either cannot accept 1080p signals, or that overscans 1080p causing loss of detail should be criminalized. The Sceptre 1080i I had (it blew up and was returned to Costco) overscanned badly.

I got the Vizio 47 Saturday and ordered the philips today. Vizio is not bad on SD but HD will be installed tomorrow. Will let you know the difference when the philips arrives.
post #237 of 1801
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Originally Posted by paleman27 View Post

Where can i get a laptop with DVI output?

no sure if any PCs have it except via Docking stations, but all current Macs (Macbook and MacbookPro) have DVI out (or can be via "dongle" that comes with the laptop). older Powerbooks all support DVI as well.
post #238 of 1801
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Originally Posted by earthbound View Post

It's only been recently that some 1080 sets allow you to select a bit-by-bit mode to eliminate overscan. IMHO marketing a set as 1080p that either cannot accept 1080p signals, or that overscans 1080p causing loss of detail should be criminalized. The Sceptre 1080i I had (it blew up and was returned to Costco) overscanned badly.

Ordered my unit this morning. These are going to be the longest 20 business days of my life. I'm a newbie and I'm hoping I could get simple answers to my newbie questions:
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What does overscan mean?
What does it mean when somebody says you should have a good "scaler"?
post #239 of 1801
I just can't justify making a blind purchase of something that costs this much (bargain or not). I'll just wait for impressions, and hopefully the price will come down in a month or two.
post #240 of 1801
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Originally Posted by Soybean View Post

I just can't justify making a blind purchase of something that costs this much (bargain or not). I'll just wait for impressions, and hopefully the price will come down in a month or two.

with a Costco return policy it's not a blind purchase.
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