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post #1 of 63
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I like the shows and movies, but I am by no means a Trekkie, and I don't know much about what is going on in the Trek universe today.
I've heard there is a new movie coming in 2008 but its going to be a prequel of some type with all new cast?

I would really like to see the next generation cast in another movie, I just don't think they were given a lot to work with on the movies they made except for First Contact. They could have kept the Borg storyline going into the other movies and made it really interesting. I believe given the right scripts they should have lasted just as long if not longer as the original crew did with 6 movies.

Right now I've been watching season 6 on DVD, and these shows are a pleasure to watch, I really miss not having something like this on TV.
post #2 of 63
Star Trek films have never been given the biggest or best budgets to work with and from what i understand over half the budget for the last trek movie went on paying the actors who kept demanding more and more to return to their roles. when you consider how much money they earned at the box office i think the actor's salaries were out of control and so it's no wonder another next generation film was never made.

The next movie will be a prequel to the original sixties series with a young Kirk and Spock....could be good if they give it a good budget.
post #3 of 63
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Originally Posted by Terminator840 View Post

I like the shows and movies, but I am by no means a Trekkie, and I don't know much about what is going on in the Trek universe today.
I've heard there is a new movie coming in 2008 but its going to be a prequel of some type with all new cast?

I would really like to see the next generation cast in another movie, I just don't think they were given a lot to work with on the movies they made except for First Contact. They could have kept the Borg storyline going into the other movies and made it really interesting. I believe given the right scripts they should have lasted just as long if not longer as the original crew did with 6 movies.

Right now I've been watching season 6 on DVD, and these shows are a pleasure to watch, I really miss not having something like this on TV.

Nemesis didn't do all that well at the box office, and my understanding was that was supposed to be the last film for the "Next Generation" cast.
post #4 of 63
I happened to be watching some TNG this morning (from the Time Travel DVD collection - good stuff, I'll be writing a review sometime soon). I remembered when the show I came ou - that I was in college - and then the awful realization that was 20 YEARS AGO.

I think that hints at one of the problem the series would have - the actors are too old for the parts. But then you get to the real problem - TNG was on for 7 years. What's left to cover in movies???

For all their faults, the Original Series movies worked because fans hungred for more. There was a sense the TV show was cancelled too soon. We wanted more.

Well, as much as I liked TNG - I've gotten my fill and don't have a burning need to see more. Those stores are *more* than played out.
post #5 of 63
I wouldn't mind see a movie with a mix of the last few series. Voyager, DS9 and next gen any way.
I always wanted to know what happened with the voyager crew after they got home. How the non-earth pepole adapted and such.

A prequel could be alright as long as they stay away from all that time travel B&B seem to like. Enterprise had far to much of that as well as not staying within the lore already made by other shows.
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post #7 of 63
the franchise need a fresh perspective. the TNG movies were never as good at the tv shows... and the tv shows went to hell once Ron Moore left.
I think a new start would be welcome, so long as they keep the latter day decision makers away from the process.
post #8 of 63
I'm just glad Rick Berman was shown the door,any new series and movies will have a fresh perspective.I'm sure JJ Abrams will do a good job on the movie,but I kinda hope he won't be involved in any new inevitable series-his tv shows always fall apart badly after starting out well-Lost,Alias anyone?
post #9 of 63
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Originally Posted by NewNameGuy View Post

I happened to be watching some TNG this morning (from the Time Travel DVD collection - good stuff, I'll be writing a review sometime soon). I remembered when the show I came ou - that I was in college - and then the awful realization that was 20 YEARS AGO.

I think that hints at one of the problem the series would have - the actors are too old for the parts. But then you get to the real problem - TNG was on for 7 years. What's left to cover in movies???

For all their faults, the Original Series movies worked because fans hungred for more. There was a sense the TV show was cancelled too soon. We wanted more.

Well, as much as I liked TNG - I've gotten my fill and don't have a burning need to see more. Those stores are *more* than played out.

Nemesis made around 30 million at the boxoffice and was considered a flop, until it was released on DVD where it sold very well. But I don't know if Paramount ever broke even or not. Its a shame they couldn't have come up with a better story line for the final movie.
I think the TNG as some adventures left, The Enterprise E is a cool ship and I'd like to see more of it. I am on season 6, though I've seen many episodes over the years on TV some of them I've never seen. Did they ever finish up the storyline with Spock on Romulus with the underground movement. If not, that is what Nemesis should have been about, instead of a evil Picard clone.

EDIT: Nemesis made $43 million, still a poor showing. I was a manager of a movie theatre at the time, I remember very strong opening that Friday night (the Star Trek faithful) but after that the crowds were very light. Also Nemesis had to deal with Lord of the Rings which was released later that week.
post #10 of 63
It is definitely time to put Star Trek to rest.
Anything else is just a money grab.
post #11 of 63
it kinda is at rest right now... i think we're just debating whether it's worhtwhile to try it again... and if TNG is still fertile ground.

The TNG cast isn't worth the money they demand, IMO. I think you can find DOZENS of people capable of writing/producing another great Trek show... but I'm not exactly confident in Paramount's ability to select the right people. I beleive it was 'Generations' where they got two writers who's Trek knowledge consisted of a HANDFUL of tv episodes (no exaggeration).

Berman and Co. should have been fired on the spot after killing off Kirk in the most anti-climactic manner possible. Severe irresponsibility and incompetence imo.
post #12 of 63
If Leonard Nimoy is up to it, a movie surrounding Spock might be able to draw an audience.....with other ST characters from other series for support.

Maybe??

Ed
post #13 of 63
if not totally new... I think an integrated squad could work, provided they don't use problematic salary actors.
post #14 of 63
Star Trek has been on life support ever since First Contact (which wasn't that great a movie) and I'm glad they pulled the plug and put the whole thing out of its misery. I think the flashback movie is a potentially good idea and I'll be in line to see it if it sounds like they did a good job, however.
post #15 of 63
IMHO, TNG movie series is done. A prequel would be great "IF" the cast and writing can bring back the soul of the original series. I think if the prequel does great both critically and at the box office, "THEN" we can wrap up the Star Trek series with elements of DS9, Voyager, etc. BTW, I thought Nemesis was not that bad, First Contact and Undiscovered Country was cool, Wrath of Khan was great.
post #16 of 63
I guess there is some life left. Here we go.

I like the original cast and think Spock is due his own movie.

Ed
post #17 of 63
Isn't a Kirk/Spock prequel Starfleet Academy in the works?
post #18 of 63
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Originally Posted by NewNameGuy View Post

I happened to be watching some TNG this morning (from the Time Travel DVD collection - good stuff, I'll be writing a review sometime soon). I remembered when the show I came ou - that I was in college - and then the awful realization that was 20 YEARS AGO.

I think that hints at one of the problem the series would have - the actors are too old for the parts. But then you get to the real problem - TNG was on for 7 years. What's left to cover in movies???

For all their faults, the Original Series movies worked because fans hungred for more. There was a sense the TV show was cancelled too soon. We wanted more.

Well, as much as I liked TNG - I've gotten my fill and don't have a burning need to see more. Those stores are *more* than played out.

I have that disk set and the transfer image is excellent. TNG might have played out, but review the resurgence of the remastered original Star Trek. Maybe TNG will be remastered-when will this end? I just enjoy it.
post #19 of 63
I don't like the idea of a prequel, I would rather go the other way.
To some extent to break free of having to cross reference everything so that the fans will be happy

There have been some interesting possabilities already in the series, in Voyager you had Species 8207 (or whatever number it had).
Also some things were introduced in the Enterprise series like the species behind the Xindi threat.
post #20 of 63
Trek was about the evolution of humans and their uniqueness in the universe. Its logical they start a new series 200 years beyond Voyager dealing with species evolved higher than humans. Just use the movie as the pilot. With HDTV it would make for some great eye candy, especially if they use good writers. Or, dust off some of the paperbacks and cast new actors to play the old roles, hasn't hurt Bond.
post #21 of 63
I wouldn't worry about prequel continuity... they totally neutered most every exciting thing that was supposed to occur in their treatment of 'Enterprise'.

The disasterous results of first contact with the Klingon empire which lead to decades of war? Yeah right! 'Enterprise' side-stepped that entire part of the continuity... and left them with a seriously boring show ultimately leading to the demise of the franchise.

I was optimistic of the direction the final season of Enterprise... but too little too late. Ofcourse a Mirror-Universe series would be most interesting.
post #22 of 63
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Trek was about the evolution of humans and their uniqueness in the universe.

Ah, so THAT was why all the aliens were humanoid...
post #23 of 63
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I wouldn't worry about prequel continuity... they totally neutered most every exciting thing that was supposed to occur in their treatment of 'Enterprise'.

The disasterous results of first contact with the Klingon empire which lead to decades of war? Yeah right! 'Enterprise' side-stepped that entire part of the continuity... and left them with a seriously boring show ultimately leading to the demise of the franchise.

I was optimistic of the direction the final season of Enterprise... but too little too late. Ofcourse a Mirror-Universe series would be most interesting.

I was not a big fan of Enterprise, however the mirror-universe was very good. Shame they only started to hit on that when it was too late. So much potential wasted.
post #24 of 63
No Star Trek movie ever made or yet-to-be from any series will ever be as good as "All Good Things..."

EVER.
post #25 of 63
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No Star Trek movie ever made or yet-to-be from any series will ever be as good as "All Good Things..."

EVER.

I hope you are joking ?

I didn't particularly like that 2 part episode finale.....i didn't particularly like Q episodes fullstop.

I'd like to see a hard edged Trek movie...i felt they got way too comfortable and were becoming caricatures....make the next one edgy please.
post #26 of 63
Q never really seemed a threat.

Much too "cutsie" for my taste. I thought it rather juvenile.

Now.....QQQ....he's a REAL threat.

Ed
post #27 of 63
I've seen all the various iterations of ST, although I didn't see DS9 perfectly in order, but I'm not as big of a ST fan as say babylon 5 or firefly so I guess I'm not a full fledged trekkie. With that disclaimer, how about this statement to stir this thread's pot:

I think season 4 of Enterprise was the best Star Trek season of all of the various series. Seasons 1-3 weren't outstanding by any means, but when the writers knew the show was getting canned after season 4 they took a no-holds-barred approach and showed some real love for the Star Trek universe. The various 2 and 3 part episode arcs in that 4th season made the Star Trek universe so much more unified. I think you could see real passion for Star Trek coming from the writers in this season, like no other season in all of the other series.
post #28 of 63
From what I recall, there was a change in creative team for S4 Enterprise, so that's probably why you saw such a dramatic shift in quality.

Although I'd agree that Enterprise showed some real flashes with the Mirror Universe... the All Time BEST Trek episodes came from DS9... during the Dominion War. Aside from the obligatory dopey filler episodes here and there... the last few seasons of DS9 really laid the groundwork for what we're now seeing in Battlestar Galactica.

Dukat, Garak, Damar, Kira (her evil doppleganger, the Emmisary of Bejor, Prophets, General Martok, Worf, Kern, Thomas Riker, The Jem Heddar, the 85 Weyouns, the Obsidian Order, Starfleet's Black Ops (Sect. 31), the Changellings, the 2 O'Briens... the list goes on and on.

No disrespect to TNG and the many many great shows they had... with special nod to Excellent Cliffhangers (excluding the ridiculous Mark Twain/Whoopie Goldberg eps) like Riker firing on Locutus... BUT, IMO the most memorable involved Dukat picking up Sisko's Baseball after taking back DS9/Terrak Noir... and the series kicking into high gear for the duration.
post #29 of 63
I would agree on Enterprise S4 except the last episode, g-d d-mn that was bad one.

What I liked about Enterprise as a whole was the "not so moraly/politicaly correct" approach.
Sure it kind of goes agains what I think Gene wanted to achieve but I thought it was kind of refreshing.

Anyway my view is that they should try and make a "leap" to refresh the franchise.
post #30 of 63
By the time S4 of Enterprise rolled around, I was so turned off to the series that I didn't bother to watch. Maybe I'll have to Netflix the season.

As for what was best, I have a real problem judging Star Trek season. It's the only show I know where I absolutely love much of it, but every season has a significant number of episodes with absolutely no appeal to me.

So while I agree that the late seasons of DS9 had great stuff, it also had the domestic problems of the O'Brians, the domestic problems of Worf and Dax, Sisko's problems as a parent, and episodes on the changing Ferengi attitude toward women. How do you judge a season with so much good, and so much mediocrity?

And, of course, DS9 suffered from the plot-line-from-heck - the one that was the downfall of TNG, DS9 and Voyager: episodes about the poor non-human's attempts to be human. But at least Odo's episodes were far better than Data's or (shudder) the Doctors. I realize there are a hard-core group of Trek fans that LOVE these episodes. And B&B sure loved them. But total uninteresting drek as far as I'm concerned.
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