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post #181 of 371
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Originally Posted by plasmalover View Post

I went to the local BB, CC, Walmart, Target, and TRU all within a 20 miles and there were no PS3 in in the stores, this is for ALL the stores. That is 3 BB, 2 CC, 3 Walmrt, 3 Targets and 1 TRU that I went to and no PS3. I believe it varies depends on area. There is still high demand here in Los Angeles.

PS, still no PS3 at amazon.com, demand seems pretty high.

I can't find them, either, but I don't have the energy to keep running around looking like you did. I think I will sit back and wait for someone online to get some in stock.
post #182 of 371
It depends on geography. Even my local walmart has the occasional 20GB and 60GB returns now, but they're usually gone the next visit. Once I saw 6 60GB returns sold at 10% off as open box in a BestBuy. They all disappeared that night.

There is demand, but there is also definitely supply now, and if the pictures are authentic, some stores have a lot of boxes.

You still can't find it online though, the few times that bestbuy and futureshop (local) list some online, they disappear the same day.

I wonder why bestbuy doesn't collect all the PS3s they have and list them online. That should be a good way to gauge if there is national demand for them.
post #183 of 371
Gamestop has them in stock online.
post #184 of 371
Circuit City also has the 60G online with free shipping.
post #185 of 371
I frequently check circuitcity.com's website and it seems that at least half the time they have 3-4 stores within my radius with 60gb models in stock avail for pickup at the store. They ALWAYS have them available for purchase online with next day shipping a cheap $16 flat. I checked ebgames.com today and every store within 100 miles of my zip code (in the Chicago area) had at least 2-3 units with many showing 4+ in stock. I found this a little shocking and called a few of the stores, they indeed had them. I'm thinking about purchasing a PS3 this weekend. I haven't had a PS2 in over 4 years and would like to get into some of their top games as well as purchase additional PS3 titles as they come available. I already have an HD DVD add-on for my 360, so BD really means squat to me. Still debating with myself, but might bite the bullet. Anyone with any experience playing PS1&2 games on their PS3? I hear the graphics aren't comparable (worse) when played on the PS3.
post #186 of 371
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Originally Posted by MrPorterhouse View Post

Everybody has a "magic" price where they feel something is worth it or not. Portable music players are always popular. The old CD Walkmans would cost about $100 whereas the iPods of today that are bought be the same average kids command $250-$300. If a portable music player costs $300, then its not a stretch to charge $600 for a video game console. It won't be long before consoles cost $1000 minimum and each game costs $100. That's just the outrageous world of out of control inflation that we live in.


My point exactly, after having a 20 gig for a month and finding out all it could do.I went and bought a 60 gig. When you can do everything these things do right now and even more in the future its a friggin bargain. In my book!

I play some PS2 games on my PS3 but hey my PS2 is still hooked up in my rack with online capabilities so I use that as well, the best deal out there for gaming is the $129.00 PS2 with tons of cheap software!! How do you beat that!!
post #187 of 371
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Originally Posted by wnorris View Post

Is this further proof of the PS3's slow sales:

http://www.playstatic.com/news/259

EB Games and Gamestop is giving $100 off the purchase of a PS3 if you trade in your PS2 at purchase (and a 2nd controller, and a memory card). I think the normal price is about $60 in trade for all this.

Isn't it odd that retailers are already having to offer discount incentives to get PS3 inventories moving? Isn't this supposed to be a hot item?


Does this mean that the Wii is now having slow sales?

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/ga...cube-trade-in/

Isn't it odd that retailers are already having to offer discount incentives to get Wii inventories moving? Isn't this supposed to be a hot item?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
post #188 of 371
Csmith - thank you.

Maybe all these trolls will shut up now. Common business sense is totally beyond their grasp; retailer-friendly incentives packages? No no... that's a sign of crushing failure....

By the way did I call in this thread that they would do the same thing with the Wii as soon as they had any appreciable quantities in stock? I believe I did.
post #189 of 371
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Originally Posted by wnorris View Post

I think it also says something about the inventories of PS3's that EB has stockpiled now. If the system was even coming close to selling out shipments, these discounting measures wouldn't be in place.

I guess it does tell us that the PS3 has fixed its supply problem.

I think that the PS3 has fixed its demand problem. You could not find a 360 for months after launch. PS3's were in stock 30 days after launch. PS3 just costs too much for the average gamer to jump into. That why the Wii is popular. Its cheap. Its fun. The PS3 doesn't have any great games to lauch with. I bet that most were bought to be sold on Ebay, and when they crashed in price they were returned. I was hoping they would lauch Halo 3 at the same time as the PS3 and Crush the PS3 sales, but it looks like it was not needed.
post #190 of 371
If Sony actually hits their shipment target and sells through ~70%, they'll have sold more PS3s in the first two months than the 360 did in its first 5. Something to consider.
post #191 of 371
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Originally Posted by tedmales View Post

I think that the PS3 has fixed its demand problem. You could not find a 360 for months after launch. PS3's were in stock 30 days after launch. PS3 just costs too much for the average gamer to jump into. That why the Wii is popular. Its cheap. Its fun. The PS3 doesn't have any great games to lauch with. I bet that most were bought to be sold on Ebay, and when they crashed in price they were returned. I was hoping they would lauch Halo 3 at the same time as the PS3 and Crush the PS3 sales, but it looks like it was not needed.


WOW do you know any stocks that would be a good buy as well?
post #192 of 371
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Originally Posted by joebergquist View Post

Circuit City also has the 60G online with free shipping.

There is no supply issue, but note the ps3 60GB also tops the circuitcity.com's bestseller list (ipod video is #2). Meaning they are moving boxes.

Gamestop also has 72hours processing delay, meaning their volume is not that low either.

Sony will miss their sales target, but they are selling. Without even considering Japan. In US alone, by end of January, they are also on track to sell more than X360 did by end of March '06 (which is when X360 reached saturation point). Doesn't mean much when you compare it against the torrid pace of Wii, but I suspect wii may not have legs once the novelty of the fancy controllers die down, people may realize that the guitar-hero type of games on the PS2 actually have more staying power than the wii controllers. (Just a guess)
post #193 of 371
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Originally Posted by csmith75 View Post

Does this mean that the Wii is now having slow sales?

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/ga...cube-trade-in/

Isn't it odd that retailers are already having to offer discount incentives to get Wii inventories moving? Isn't this supposed to be a hot item?

That's hilarious.

Well, considering the target demographic, it wouldn't be at all surprising if sales plumetted after the Xmas season.

Gary
post #194 of 371
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Originally Posted by OldCodger73 View Post

One keeps hearing that the PS3 are in plentiful supply but the Best Buy I went to yesterday didn't have any.

100 arrive once a week come at my local BB, and they are gone in a day.

We have people making continent wide conclusions based on a sample from their small patch.

All we have is this anecdotal evidence. And when we do get some "analyst" making a comment, it's based on subtracting two numbers he's read and then concluding the difference is sitting gathering dust.

Gary
post #195 of 371
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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf View Post


All we have is this anecdotal evidence. And when we do get some "analyst" making a comment, it's based on subtracting two numbers he's read and then concluding the difference is sitting gathering dust.

Gary


Here's some more anecdotal evidence - went by Fry's in Austin to pick up a remote for PS3. Asked the clerks how they were selling. They said they were sold out and couldn't keep them in stock. Of course, the Wiis were selling out too - but they said Nintendo wasn't supplying many. Also, pickings on PS3 add-ons seemed pretty slim. . .There were boxes and boxes of Xbox 360s however stacked to the ceiling.

Anyone else see that Sony gets hit either way - either they have supply and sales are dismal or they can't manufucture enough and have blown whatever shot they had. . .Puh-leez, I'm sick of hearing all of this. I think we'll have a clear picture in a year how successful launch was for PS3. Until then - I agree - it's all a bunch of hot air and anecdotal evidence.
post #196 of 371
At the start off the HiDef war I couldn't care wether PS3 failed since I had my HDDVD. Now that I have a PS3 after selling my Xbox360, I have been very pleased with the performance and potential this piece off hardware offers. Not too mention it so quite during operation unlike the Xbox360. Every store I've been too that had PS3's in stock were OS a few days later.
post #197 of 371
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Originally Posted by csmith75 View Post

Does this mean that the Wii is now having slow sales?

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/ga...cube-trade-in/

Isn't it odd that retailers are already having to offer discount incentives to get Wii inventories moving? Isn't this supposed to be a hot item?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

After xmas is traditionally a slow season for consoles (seasonal induced credit card fatigue ). They have to do all sorts of promotions to drive sales.

Price is definitely an issue too.
post #198 of 371
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Originally Posted by 10th St. View Post

Anyone else see that Sony gets hit either way - either they have supply and sales are dismal or they can't manufucture enough and have blown whatever shot they had. . .Puh-leez, I'm sick of hearing all of this. I think we'll have a clear picture in a year how successful launch was for PS3. Until then - I agree - it's all a bunch of hot air and anecdotal evidence.

Well, I thiunk it is more than just some folks making up stories here. Please:

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=94008
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/19/ps3/index.php
http://news.digitaltrends.com/article12121.html
http://www.ps3center.net/story-201.html
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/...rstweek_1.html
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/b...y/16491098.htm

This can NOT bode well for blu ray. Can NOT. IF it is the movie player trojan horse it seems that that strategy has failed. Either people are waiting for good games to come out and buy it then for gaming, or the honeymoon is truly over.

With the revised xbox360 appearing to be coming soon that includes HDMI and Halo 3 around the corner and a lot of the upcoming games for the PS3 being retreaded 360 games. Ouchy.
post #199 of 371
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Originally Posted by pcrx View Post

Well, I thiunk it is more than just some folks making up stories here. Please:

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=94008
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/19/ps3/index.php
http://news.digitaltrends.com/article12121.html
http://www.ps3center.net/story-201.html
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/...rstweek_1.html
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/b...y/16491098.htm

This can NOT bode well for blu ray. Can NOT. IF it is the movie player trojan horse it seems that that strategy has failed. Either people are waiting for good games to come out and buy it then for gaming, or the honeymoon is truly over.

With the revised xbox360 appearing to be coming soon that includes HDMI and Halo 3 around the corner and a lot of the upcoming games for the PS3 being retreaded 360 games. Ouchy.

After the holidays even in Japan this is the slowest time for retail. IN the US, people are worrying about items they bought for Xmas on credit. Tax time is coming and an issue. Weather hampers sales. ETC>>>>>.....

I would suggest reading the articles in detail. Some mention all the next gen consoles are not doing that well. 25k PS3's in Japan alone and that it the worst week since launch.

I don't know where to why you get thinking that this can't bode well for blu ray as you say or the movie player is a trojan horse. The fact is Blu ray sales are outpacing HD DVD sales. The strategy is working and 1.5 million PS3's have been sold in the US and Japan in two months.


I will go on record and put my butt on the line calling BS on all of these ps3's not selling and collecting dust threads. I say at the end of this year, many who are posting these types of threads will have to find other negatives to complain about the PS3, because sales of the PS3 and Blu Ray will do well.

The PS3 is selling. The majority of people who are buying it for gaming are buying Blu Ray movies. 80+%. Many who are buying the PS3 for a Blu Ray player and are not gamers, have tried the demos and are gaming.

The strategy has worked. The PS3 is selling. Blu Ray is selling. Wait till Europe and Australia kick in and let's talk the end of 2007.

So how long have you lived in the MS capital of the US? Your post history is curious. How is all this negative talk and going out of your way to find negativity and posting on the PS3 and Blu Ray forums working for you?
post #200 of 371
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

I don't know where to why you get thinking that this can't bode well for blu ray as you say or the movie player is a trojan horse. The fact is Blu ray sales are outpacing HD DVD sales. The strategy is working and 1.5 million PS3's have been sold in the US and Japan in two months.

The strategy has worked. The PS3 is selling. Blu Ray is selling. Wait till Europe and Australia kick in and let's talk the end of 2007.

You have to realize that Blu ray releases have been more than HD DVD over the last 45 days. But HD DVD stand alone players have sold more than Blu ray stand alone players. PS3 is not selling the way they predicted it would, and when the HD DVD camp announces the cheaper models for 2007 for mid 200 and mid 300, the studios will realize that they are loosing money not releasing movies on HD DVD. So players are more appealing than gaming machines for movie playback. Don't count on a game machine to win this war when is not even selling that well.
post #201 of 371
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Originally Posted by casper77 View Post

You have to realize that Blu ray releases have been more than HD DVD over the last 45 days. But HD DVD stand alone players have sold more than Blu ray stand alone players. PS3 is not selling the way they predicted it would, and when the HD DVD camp announces the cheaper models for 2007 for mid 200 and mid 300, the studios will realize that they are loosing money not releasing movies on HD DVD. So players are more appealing than gaming machines for movie playback. Don't count on a game machine to win this war when is not even selling that well.


It's not just a game machine and anyone thinking that even the average J6P doesn't know or won't be educated in that respect is failing to remember it is 2007, not 1997. Many on this forum trying to downplay it keep trying to project or market it as only a game machine, but Sony, marketing and stores aren't.
post #202 of 371
Well the PS3 is sold out again in both of the Bestbuys by my house and also the Target. As of last weekend those three store combined had around 110 PS3's (All the 60GB version). I think the PS3 is selling steadily and surely.

~Josh
post #203 of 371
ps3's are sold out at most of the stores where i live (orange county, california) after getting in hundreds of them everywhere a week ago. it might not be the lines in the morning the wii still commands, but its definitely selling a ton faster than the xbox 360 (which still has stacks in most stores left over from christmas).

also, the 360 hd drive has been in stock at most stores around here for at least all of january. seems like there is very little interest in it.

the hd-dvd sections at these stores look relatively untouched and fully stocked, while the blu-ray section is generally ravaged and half empty. hd-dvd standalones are generally sitting around in best buy (the one store that stocks it) while the sony and samsung blu-ray players seem to move at a good pace.

things are looking great in california for blu-ray and the ps3, and bleak for hd-dvd. as predicted.
post #204 of 371
Here in the midwest...Chicago SW area BD players and PS3 are in stock. I guess it depends were you live. The hardest players to get now are the Tosh HD DVD and Wii's.
post #205 of 371
In my area, I saw only three ps3's in the main stores, walmart, target, BB, CC, and Meijer (frequent during my weekend), down from over 10 last weekend, so they are definitly selling. I don't know if there is more supply or less being sold in comparison to the 360 which I did not see in these stores until march of last year. I only saw the Wii once at Target, where they received a shipment of 23, they were all gone the next day.
post #206 of 371
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Originally Posted by dazzatwork View Post

ps3's are sold out at most of the stores where i live (orange county, california) after getting in hundreds of them everywhere a week ago. it might not be the lines in the morning the wii still commands, but its definitely selling a ton faster than the xbox 360 (which still has stacks in most stores left over from christmas).

also, the 360 hd drive has been in stock at most stores around here for at least all of january. seems like there is very little interest in it.

the hd-dvd sections at these stores look relatively untouched and fully stocked, while the blu-ray section is generally ravaged and half empty. hd-dvd standalones are generally sitting around in best buy (the one store that stocks it) while the sony and samsung blu-ray players seem to move at a good pace.

things are looking great in california for blu-ray and the ps3, and bleak for hd-dvd. as predicted.

You mean Southern, California...Up here PS3's are everywhere and BD players are everywhere as well.
post #207 of 371
Most of this thread seems more appropriate for the gaming forum.

The CCs in southcentral Pennsylvania are sold out of the PS3. Despite the FUD, PS3s sell and they sell and they sell.

There are one million PS3 sold into N. America. Because of the lack of game titles for the moment, the co-equal primary driver of PS3 sales is Blu-ray movie content.

In my house, the PS3 is constantly used either for games or movies. The PS3 is a great value. And because of its multi-functionality, it has high WAF in my house.
post #208 of 371
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Originally Posted by pcrx View Post

Well, I thiunk it is more than just some folks making up stories here. Please:

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=94008
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/19/ps3/index.php
http://news.digitaltrends.com/article12121.html
http://www.ps3center.net/story-201.html
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/...rstweek_1.html
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/b...y/16491098.htm

This can NOT bode well for blu ray. Can NOT. IF it is the movie player trojan horse it seems that that strategy has failed. Either people are waiting for good games to come out and buy it then for gaming, or the honeymoon is truly over.

With the revised xbox360 appearing to be coming soon that includes HDMI and Halo 3 around the corner and a lot of the upcoming games for the PS3 being retreaded 360 games. Ouchy.

I have to tell you after reading those threads, It reminded me of motorcycle reporting. Someone starts some BS story and bunch of sheep follow so they dont look like their not up to speed on their reporting. Like I said before, We will not know the truth of how Sonys business plan is playing out. But one REAL no BS sign is the stock value which tells you the strength of sony as a company. Unless you get a detailed breakdown of its profit centers, it tells nothing more. Then you have have to facture in the overall business plan, which none of us are privy to. So in large what all these gloom and doom posts are FUD. People with too much time on their hands to copy and paste "their" truth together. Any large company with endless resources can make stuff happen if its important enough to them. I think the PS3 is pretty important to them and its a GREAT piece already. Spreading this crap is done by people who for some reason want Sonys system to fail pure and simple selfishness.
post #209 of 371
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

It's not just a game machine and anyone thinking that even the average J6P doesn't know or won't be educated in that respect is failing to remember it is 2007, not 1997. Many on this forum trying to downplay it keep trying to project or market it as only a game machine, but Sony, marketing and stores aren't.



I personally cannot remember seeing 1 PS3 commercial where it mentions anything about its BD playback capabilities.
post #210 of 371
I haven't seen any commercials for the PS3 at all. Well, maybe one.

I think if they would stress in advertising that you are getting a Hi-Def DVD player, Blu-Ray, for about $400 (less than most others) you'd do much better sales-wise.

My brother-in-law just bought my newphew Nintendo's Wii and when I said "what about PS3?" he said it was $600 or so.

Well, duh !!! But you have to look at it as getting 2 state-of-the-art electronic pieces at a great price.
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