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post #1951 of 2100
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

Hi Guys, I love the rack pics, I seen a picture of someones rack that had a blue temperature display like this pic that Ive attached. What kind of temp gauge is that? I cant find anything like it on the MA site, or on the internet. I have a Slim 5 37 and would like to have this at the top just so I can keep an eye on the temp with a quick glance.

Cheers!


cooler guys et al sell those. you can find on amazon
post #1952 of 2100
Can be bought here.
http://www.coolerguys.com/cgtmdled.html
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556090885.html
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556100584.html
http://www.coolerguys.com/rackcool.html
post #1953 of 2100
Thanks for the info guys! thats exactly what im looking for. smile.gif
post #1954 of 2100
Im guessing that is another manufacturer's display but MA does sell them.:

http://www.middleatlantic.com/rackac/decora/decora.htm
post #1955 of 2100
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Originally Posted by Tedd View Post

Im guessing that is another manufacturer's display but MA does sell them.:

http://www.middleatlantic.com/rackac/decora/decora.htm

Thanks Tedd. I couldn't find anything by MA for it. That's a nice piece of hardware but I think I am going to go with the one from Coolerguys. Its only 15 bucks from them and it has blue lighting to match other component lights. smile.gif
post #1956 of 2100
Found this rack for sale locally - any help identifying and putting a price to it?

http://imgur.com/a/FBq1L
post #1957 of 2100
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Originally Posted by fajita123 View Post

Found this rack for sale locally - any help identifying and putting a price to it?

http://imgur.com/a/FBq1L

No idea of brand. Would pay more than $100 for it, as it has no glass door, no shelves to speak of and is scratched
post #1958 of 2100
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Originally Posted by mark_anderson_u View Post

No idea of brand. Would pay more than $100 for it, as it has no glass door, no shelves to speak of and is scratched

It is a Middle Atlantic and includes the 20 amp power strips (two). They're asking $200 for the lot.

PDT-1020C-NS 37-3/4" 20 Amp 10 9' cord circuit breaker only

http://www.middleatlantic.com/power/pdt.htm

Edit: My best guess would be ERK-3525-AV (looks similar, 35U, 22" wide, includes power strips) but I have no clue.
Edited by fajita123 - 1/22/14 at 3:13pm
post #1959 of 2100
Nice rack. If you can weasel it for 150 or so I'd jump on it. Even if its wider than I need. Are those really scratches on the side? Looks like it has been wiped with a dirty cloth or something. Things like the fan panel are expensive in itself. If you're getting the rack and all the stuff in the pics I'd buy it. But that's just me. biggrin.gif
post #1960 of 2100
Thanks. I'm going to look at it this weekend was just looking for some info before hand.
post #1961 of 2100
It is definitely a ERK.Good deal at $200. The fans and power strips are close to $200 alone.
post #1962 of 2100
$200 is a solid deal since the case has three ventilations fans, front and rear doors plus accessories like
some cable management and power strips.

Watch for stripped holes in the rack rails. Rattle can hammered finish spray paint can easily clean up
rack rash and give you a brand new finish.
post #1963 of 2100
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Originally Posted by fajita123 View Post

Found this rack for sale locally - any help identifying and putting a price to it?

http://imgur.com/a/FBq1L

Does it mean something that the outlets are orange?
post #1964 of 2100
Yes that they are 20 amp. Thanks for the responses!
post #1965 of 2100
I thought orange meant an isolated ground.

And the T slot pin means 20A.
post #1966 of 2100
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Originally Posted by Tedd View Post

I thought orange meant an isolated ground.

And the T slot pin means 20A.

Oh, maybe I'm just used to seeing them together. You're right that they are always T slot as well, I just always see them orange too.
post #1967 of 2100
Looking to build new rack, I do not have that many components. Arcam AVR 750, PS Audio Powerplay 8000, Sony PS4, Verizon Fios box, I will probably add a XboxOne, and a stand alone bluray player later on. I have always liked the Middle Atlantic stuff, with all the faceplates,and the super clean look. What should Iook at? Also want to be able to keep all of my gear cool. I have my gear on an open tv stand that takes up way too much space, looking to get rid of that. Thanks for the help.
post #1968 of 2100
I use a Middle Atlantic Slim5 rack with a pair of fans up top. It's built into a dedicated av closet.
The fans pull air up and out, which then vent through a grill in the wall. You don't want any vents in
the uppermost 6 or 7U of the rack to short circuit the cooling tower.

If you want a free standing rack, then you could screw plywood sides to the Slim5 from inside the
rack. The holes are already there. And there is a whole range of accessories like doors available.
A rear door will help with having the fans pull cool air through the rack.

You also might want to look at some wiring rails for the back of the rack.
post #1969 of 2100
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Originally Posted by Tedd View Post

I use a Middle Atlantic Slim5 rack with a pair of fans up top. It's built into a dedicated av closet.
The fans pull air up and out, which then vent through a grill in the wall. You don't want any vents in
the uppermost 6 or 7U of the rack to short circuit the cooling tower.

If you want a free standing rack, then you could screw plywood sides to the Slim5 from inside the
rack. The holes are already there. And there is a whole range of accessories like doors available.
A rear door will help with having the fans pull cool air through the rack.

You also might want to look at some wiring rails for the back of the rack.

I personally would not put any vents in the rack and let the fans up top pull the air through the rack from the bottom. That is, if you have sides and a back door. This is the way I used to have my setup before the way I have it now. Just put a cooler guys temperature controlled fan setup up top because it is way cheaper and it will get the job done.
post #1970 of 2100
If you have passively cooled amplifiers, you will need to put vent blanks between the amps. Tedd's suggestion is generally what MA recommends in their white paper on cooling.
post #1971 of 2100
That is a blanket statement that may, or may not, be a good way to outfit your rack. You need to consider your individual electronics
and how air flows through them.
post #1972 of 2100
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Originally Posted by Tedd View Post

That is a blanket statement that may, or may not, be a good way to outfit your rack. You need to consider your individual electronics
and how air flows through them.

+1 read the thermal white papers provided by MA on various considerations to take.
post #1973 of 2100
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

If you have passively cooled amplifiers, you will need to put vent blanks between the amps. Tedd's suggestion is generally what MA recommends in their white paper on cooling.
Yes. Blanks but not vents. Just saying what I do.
post #1974 of 2100
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Originally Posted by Pain Infliction View Post

Yes. Blanks but not vents. Just saying what I do.

Yes vents. Just sayin what Middle Atlantic recomends.

pg 17
post #1975 of 2100
It still depends on the type of cooling you have set up. If you have no forced air set up, and the equipment matches that particular set up, then that would be the proper way to implement it in that case.
post #1976 of 2100
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

Yes vents. Just sayin what Middle Atlantic recomends.

pg 17
actually MA shows many ways but you only post the way you are talking about. Like others have said, it depends on configuration and what I posted is what I do. Just saying.
post #1977 of 2100
Yes MA does, but it sure reads like you threw down a "blanks, not vents" challenge. In my case, I have only one stereo amp in the rack, mounted down low,
but vented plates are a must have in my rack, or I'd baking my electronics with 800 watts per channel (stereo) of class AB, 1 ohm capable amp. The electronics
above, would have a lifespan measured in months, without the benefit of cooler air being drawn in through out the rack.

You also get far better cooling with a wider rack if you don't want to use vent plates. A narrow rack solution like a Slim5 when framed in, doesn't always let a lot of air to
components with recessed lower front vents. Some components like some HD DVD players and the original PS3 greatly benefit from a vented faceplate mounted directly
under them when installed in a narrow rack solution such as a Slim5. The face plate and the front of the shelf, act as a baffle and can limit air into some components.

Done Deal DR, you can use vent plates with fans pulling air through the rack. You should NOT short circuit the fans by using a vent panel in the upper 6-8U of
the rack. And that includes dealing with the built in vent panel in the top section of the Slim5. MA offers a magnetic strip to seal off this vent to be installed from the
backside, or one could simply install a flat face plate.
post #1978 of 2100
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Originally Posted by Tedd View Post


Done Deal DR, you can use vent plates with fans pulling air through the rack. You should NOT short circuit the fans by using a vent panel in the upper 6-8U of
the rack. And that includes dealing with the built in vent panel in the top section of the Slim5. MA offers a magnetic strip to seal off this vent to be installed from the
backside, or one could simply install a flat face plate.

When did I ever say any of that? (hint: never smile.gif)

For the record, I am using a forced air system aiding in natural convection. My MA ERK rack is virtually completely sealed with the magnetic strips, installed in a narrow wall with front and rear access, has a top designer UQFP 4 fan exhaust which expels the naturally rising heat and a bottom UQFP intake panel draws in cool ambient room temperature air. The natural convection pulls that colder air up and out, cooling the components in the process. All of the front is sealed with plates, no vents. I set this up using the MA thermal white papers in accordance with my particular application and installation, which is what I would recommend everyone does when setting up a rack. Don't just do something because it works for some one else, who is using different equipment, rack, and installation location. Research the thermal white papers and do what works for your installation.

My rack has never exceeded 81-82 degrees Fahrenheit, and it's located directly next to an exterior wall in Arizona.
post #1979 of 2100
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find a good reference to it. What is the best way to mix pro-amps that vent back to front with other electronics that are either passive cooling or traditional front to back venting?
post #1980 of 2100
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find a good reference to it. What is the best way to mix pro-amps that vent back to front with other electronics that are either passive cooling or traditional front to back venting?

Most have opened it up and reversed the fan 180 degrees to pull from the front and go out the back, at least with the Behringer amps. I can't find the posts, but I recall there were some guys that got really serious about measuring the internal temperatures with the fan reversed and everything was fine from an operational perspective.
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