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post #601 of 2104
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Originally Posted by jdholmes View Post

I'm sure there isn't a way to say this without sounding mean, but guys...this is a "SHOW ME" thread...many of us subscribe to this thread so we can get updates to our email when new pictures are up. Please, let's cut the chatter - save it for a different thread or for PM's. No offense meant - hope you have a great day...I'm just getting peeved with constant updates from this thread without new pictures.

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Thread title is "show me your rack", not "rack building FAQ".

I (as well I'm sure those with opinions similar to mine and jd) understand that it's easier to quote and ask questions to members who have completed their racks and posted within this thread. However it does de-rail it's intended purpose.

I'm also sure that pointing out this fact won't change anything, but at the minimum jd will know he's not alone in his disapproval.
post #602 of 2104
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Originally Posted by kcdude24 View Post

For all of those who built their own racks that are a basic box w/fixed or adjustable shelves...how do you hide the wires in the back if you want to leave the rear open for heat dissipation? I was thinking about building my own and leaving plenty of head room above the receiver and xbox...but that will leave some visible space and wires will be seen if I leave the back open. Any suggestions?

Can someone post more rear pics of their open/closed back DIY rack build?
post #603 of 2104
The downside to weeding out discussion would be that people would be asking the same questions over and over via pm. Posting the discussion allows others to read over what has already been asked. Maybe someone could start the rack building discussion thread but it would seem difficult to keep this thread and the other tied together.
post #604 of 2104
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Originally Posted by hellerbrewing View Post

The downside to weeding out discussion would be that people would be asking the same questions over and over via pm. Posting the discussion allows others to read over what has already been asked. Maybe someone could start the rack building discussion thread but it would seem difficult to keep this thread and the other tied together.

Although I guess this isn't helping the situation I can understand your point. .....and simple, direct questions I don't see as a problem. However it's the endless back and forth, and general inquiries that I believe are the issue.

As far as keeping a discussion thread attached to this one... I don't see why it needs to be.
post #605 of 2104
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Originally Posted by jdholmes View Post

I'm sure there isn't a way to say this without sounding mean, but guys...this is a "SHOW ME" thread...many of us subscribe to this thread so we can get updates to our email when new pictures are up. Please, let's cut the chatter - save it for a different thread or for PM's. No offense meant - hope you have a great day...I'm just getting peeved with constant updates from this thread without new pictures.

I agree, there are several other threads for discussion, let's see some pictures of your racks!
post #606 of 2104
To keep this a Show Me thread, could all of you, who have already built your rack, suggest a thread or two of people that have actually built their racks so that myself or others in the process and those starting their plans can get answers to questions without repeating mistakes, ordering the worng materials, etc, and learn from those that have been down the path.

I just chattered here, because I wanted advise from those that were proud of their racks, (those that post pictures)

Thanks

Jeff
post #607 of 2104
Actually there is a whole photo gallery section to AVS if you wish to go somewhere to look at pictures without discussing the subject however this topic does actually happen to be in the discussion forum.
post #608 of 2104
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Originally Posted by TomsHT View Post

Actually there is a whole photo gallery section to AVS if you wish to go somewhere to look at pictures without discussing the subject however this topic does actually happen to be in the discussion forum.

So what's your point. All of the "Show Me" threads are located within discussion forums.

There isn't a section in the Gallery that's specific to racks, or any other particular part of a HT construction. That's why the "Show Me" threads have been created by the members. So there is a quick and easy reference to examples, and it's also the reason why there is a sticky at the top of this forum to find them. The referenced "Show Me" threads don't need to be bumped by chatter.

Endless pages of non-picture posts are what kill "Show Me" threads. I'm confused as to why when someone posts outside the OP's intended topic anywhere else in AVS it's frowned apon. But for some reason that unwritten rule doesn't apply here.

For the record...:

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Originally Posted by lynchmob723\\ View Post

Show me your RACK

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Of equipment of course. Preferably in theater/room

Im looking for ideas/pictures

With all that said, I refuse to be apart of the problem any further.
post #609 of 2104
My point was exactly stated, there is a gallery section for photos without discussion and this is a thread about photos in a discussion forum so logically discussion should be expected to take place here...
post #610 of 2104
This thread needs more pictures! I just completed my cabinet/rack install last week; here's how it turned out. I don't have much in the way of quality equipment but you have to start somewhere. This is my first dedicated theatre area so I'm pretty pumped that it's almost finished!

From this (ikea cabinet bought off kijiji; not my car in the background ):


To This:


post #611 of 2104
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Originally Posted by TomsHT View Post
tghodge check out http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1043676&page=2 Chris says if you send him the dimensions he will see the faceplate gets made.
You can also send your measurements or component to MA directly. I'll see if I can attach it later, I can't seem to get it to work now.

Edit: It is attached.

Edit: Nevermind it appears you still need to purchase through a vendor.

 

MAsub.doc 395k . file
post #612 of 2104
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Originally Posted by GPowers View Post

Gare:
The racks are a work of art. You must have countless hours invested in them. Must be tough to leave them. Again the wireing is absolutely beautiful!!!!

I agree, I wish I had my wiring done so neatly. Gorgeous!
post #613 of 2104
Robertr has a very ingenious DIY rack made out of unistrut and angle iron. The unistrut makes up the vertical rails. The angle iron is bolted to the unistrut to support the shelves. Simple, inexpensive and effect.



here is his thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=887603
post #614 of 2104
Some nice setups and giving me ideas for mine.

One question though. Where are those with Network Switches putting them? Mounted around the back of the rack?
post #615 of 2104
I have a 24 port netgear on the back of my rack that is open to the laundry room. I have the whole house network tied into a patch panel above it. One thing though, the 24 port has noisy fans although I have not really noticed them now that the rack is filled in on the front. It might have been better to get 2 12 port switches without fans and tie them together.
post #616 of 2104


--- my AVrak installed in custom wall unit. AVrak slides out & spins in both directions, very helpful to get to back of equipment. It was a pain to pull 12ft x 7ft custom wall unit out.
post #617 of 2104
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Originally Posted by GPowers View Post

Robertr has a very ingenious DIY rack made out of unistrut and angle iron. The unistrut makes up the vertical rails. The angle iron is bolted to the unistrut to support the shelves. Simple, inexpensive and effective.

Man, I'll say. What a great idea.

Frank
post #618 of 2104
I thought I would share my current rack progess, which is actually just a small portion of my overall home wiring project.

In keeping with the spirit of the thread, I bring pictures to the party.

Goals: The overall goal for the home wiring project is to relocate all network, satelite and home theatre equipment into a central wiring closet for ease of distribution, overall cleaner living space (I'm finally past the LOTS OF BLACK BOXES phase in my life). I also wanted to the ability to centrally manage all of the network runs and had tired of having a pile of network odds and ends hanging off my desk and onto the floor of my office. I also wanted the ability to have network connections available at any point in the house behind a television to allow for Roku box usage.

I also despise wireless and avoid it if at all possible.

Scope:
31 Network Drops (CAT6)
RG6Q video distribution
Component Video runs (x3)
Optical Audio runs (x4)
Analogue Audio runs (x3 stereo)
7.2 Speaker Distribution + 2 channels for bass shakers

Effort:
Pulling all of the wire took a couple of months of weekends/nights in order to work in the attic when it was tolerable. I did all of the work myself, finally putting an HTI+ certification to good use.



I'm using a Monoprice 12 space wall rack, one side set into studs for support. The RG6Q and CAT6 pulls come down inside the wall and exit via dual low-voltage passthrough plates. Tight fit. Terminating everything took MANY hours.

True Story: Every single CAT6 drop tested out perfectly the first time. Every.Single.One.

All of the coax is RG6 quad shield, which is more than a tad unweildy to work with. All of the runs terminate in a 24 port plate from Monoprice, in which I have F-type coax keystone inserts. This allows me to bring the outside satelite "in" from outside and run it to any room in the house that I want.


I'm using two CAT6 patchbays from Monoprice, one 24 port and another 12 port as I found I was being too conservative in my drop-count.


Here is a close-up of the rack. I'm using a 24-port Netgear gigabit switch, which I got for an excellent price + rebate card.

The blue network patch is temporary. Eventually all connections between the switch and the patchbays will be done with 2 ft CAT6 patches.

The two empty spaces will house a single rack shelf and a rack-mount UPS from Cyberpower. The rack shelf will have my cable modem and Gigabit router affixed via double-sided tape. Everything plugs into the UPS, which itself plugs into the new 15-amp circuit pulled to the top of the closet. (visible in some pictures).

That takes care of the top of the closet.

The bottom of the closet will eventually house a 42 space rack for the actual home theatre equipment, NAS box and power protection devices. All will either be rackmount devices, or will be seated on rackmount shelves. This rack will be on casters to allow for ease of access to be back of the equipment.

I've already pulled all of the video and speaker connections which can be seen in the next photos.

Apologies for the mess.




The plate on the left-hand of these photos actually terminates just above on the wall rack. I wanted to avoid having wires running down the wall from one rack to the other for as clean a look as possible.

These photos do not show the HDMI runs (35 ft each), for which I used Monoprice silver-plated 22g HDMI wire.

As soon as the rack is completed (I am building it to a custom depth for this closet) I will post additional photos.
post #619 of 2104
Nice...that looks great!

Frank
post #620 of 2104
Little off topic but where is the best place to find a nice glass door for a 21u build-in wall rack?
post #621 of 2104
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Originally Posted by KingLeerUK View Post


Here is a close-up of the rack. I'm using a 24-port Netgear gigabit switch, which I got for an excellent price + rebate card.

I love the wiring job on that wall rack! Nice job!
post #622 of 2104


The bottom of the rack has the MA drawers with the DVD inserts. I'll probably need to get another one as the bottom has some empty space.

The emitter for my harmony 890 sits on top of my right surrond speaker where it can hit the entire rack.


The wiring still need some work. Once I have decided that everything is in its final place I will terminate everything to length. I am currently working on building a new HTPC that will go in the rack.


post #623 of 2104
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Originally Posted by GPowers

Robertr has a very ingenious DIY rack made out of unistrut and angle iron. The unistrut makes up the vertical rails. The angle iron is bolted to the unistrut to support the shelves. Simple, inexpensive and effective.

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Originally Posted by Weasel9992 View Post

Man, I'll say. What a great idea.

Frank

Thanks! My goal was to get as much of the Middle Atlantic custom metal look as I could without the cost. Unistrut and angle iron is cheap, VERY strong and infinitely adjustable.
post #624 of 2104
31 network drops.... is this still for a home theater or a company filled with computers? Sheesh and I thought my rack was tech oriented with a 12 port switch for internet connections.
post #625 of 2104
My attempt at the light painting technique.

post #626 of 2104
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Originally Posted by TomsHT View Post

31 network drops.... is this still for a home theater or a company filled with computers? Sheesh and I thought my rack was tech oriented with a 12 port switch for internet connections.

It's for a house. Every room has at least 2 network drops, with the offices having 4 and 8. I also pulled a pair of drops to the garage (who knows right?), and a pair for security system usage. My theatre rack will have a few devices that need network connectivity; a QNAP NAS box, Squeezebox Duet (planned), Blu-ray player - so I put 5 drops there to accomodate current needs and future expansion.

Understand that I have 3 computers in one office, another computer and a networked printer in the other. I chose the path of possibly having too many drops than too few.

Having so many also allows me to use an HDMI>CAT6 balun in the future if I ever need it. And if a future owner ever needs to run POTS, the CAT6 will easily handle it.
post #627 of 2104
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Originally Posted by KingLeerUK View Post

It's for a house. Every room has at least 2 network drops, with the offices having 4 and 8. I also pulled a pair of drops to the garage (who knows right?), and a pair for security system usage. My theatre rack will have a few devices that need network connectivity; a QNAP NAS box, Squeezebox Duet (planned), Blu-ray player - so I put 5 drops there to accomodate current needs and future expansion.

Understand that I have 3 computers in one office, another computer and a networked printer in the other. I chose the path of possibly having too many drops than too few.

Having so many also allows me to use an HDMI>CAT6 balun in the future if I ever need it. And if a future owner ever needs to run POTS, the CAT6 will easily handle it.

So where are you planning on putting the RG6 splitters and amps so that you can distribute the sat/cable/ant feeds to each room?

I'm doing something similar that you are doing and I've been looking like crazy for a rackmoutable RG6 amp but I have not been able to find anything suitable. Instead I've been planning on simply mounting the splitters and amps I have on a couple of MA's Utility panels (MA-UP1), so I'm curious to learn what your plans are.

/Anders
post #628 of 2104
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Originally Posted by KingLeerUK View Post

It's for a house. Every room has at least 2 network drops, with the offices having 4 and 8. I also pulled a pair of drops to the garage (who knows right?), and a pair for security system usage. My theatre rack will have a few devices that need network connectivity; a QNAP NAS box, Squeezebox Duet (planned), Blu-ray player - so I put 5 drops there to accomodate current needs and future expansion.

I have been adding alot of network outlets as well. I use unshielded Cat5e though, it is much easier to work with. We live in a multilevel house with nothing run to the upstairs bedrooms. I think cable was added downstairs as an afterthought. When we were tearing apart the upstairs bathroom I was able to put in a chase that goes from the laundry room where the rack is all the way up to the attic above the bedrooms on the upper floor with an access in the garage. I now have access to just about any room in the house and have just been adding the wiring as I go. this also allowed me to put an HD antenna in the upper attic which runs down to the HDHomerun in the above pics. I also have 2 wires run to the garage for an MP3 player. I try to run things in pairs in case I need them. Patch panels and cable are cheap on ebay.
post #629 of 2104
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Originally Posted by andersa View Post

So where are you planning on putting the RG6 splitters and amps so that you can distribute the sat/cable/ant feeds to each room?

I'm doing something similar that you are doing and I've been looking like crazy for a rackmoutable RG6 amp but I have not been able to find anything suitable. Instead I've been planning on simply mounting the splitters and amps I have on a couple of MA's Utility panels (MA-UP1), so I'm curious to learn what your plans are.

/Anders

I don't currently have a need to run splitters and amps in my system since I've recently downsized the scope of my Dish Network system. My coax patch panel would allow me to run signals to a splitter and back out to the various rooms of the house quite easily though.

Here is a quick Visio sketch of how the system is currently setup.



It's very basic, using the patch panel as a simple pass-thru/routing system. The beauty is, that as with the CAT6 panels, I've overbuilt to allow for future expansion and routing options. If I ever do need to patch in additional gear, I have 5 dedicated runs to/from the rack, and the rest feed to keystones in panels throughout the house.
post #630 of 2104
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Originally Posted by detzx View Post

Little off topic but where is the best place to find a nice glass door for a 21u build-in wall rack?

It's been a while since I've looked, but I know Middle Atlantic used to carry clear and smoked glass doors.

Frank
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