*** The LG BH100 HD Super Multi Blue Player *** official owner's thread - Page 5

This only assumes the device sending the 1080/24p is doing proper IVTC/3:2/deinterlacing.
True.
What?

Based on what I have read here I want to establish a situation where this player works fine...................

1080i output for Blu-Ray and HD DVD over HDMI video out straight to the TV and use the optical output on the unit to send 5.1 over to your receiver? This works 100% correct?

Not trying to take away from 1080p and HDMI switching receivers but many of us would use the player as I described so it would be nice if some one will verify my configuration as a no problem situation.

Thankyou

Works fine in this configuration.

I just returned mine to COMP USA after 3 weeks of playing with the BH100.

For the most part the player was fine.

Cons:

Lockups on both BD and HD (these were rare)

No 1080p/60 support. (or planned support via firmware update) This was not a huge deal, but for $1200, 'cmon.

No next gen audio support via HDMI. Also not a big deal since I don't have an HDMI receiver yet.

Since I already own a 360 HD-DVD drive, I thought $1200 was a little steep to get Blu-ray capability. Since most BD only players are in the $1000 range, this might fit the bill for some people. For $1200, I would think that LG could address some of these bonehead design mistakes.

I'm sure they will or some one else will do it better. Imagine the day when you pick up an Oppo Dual Player

What I expect to see is revisions of the firmware on this unit and a $499 price by next xmas. That would be great.

Funny you should mention Oppo , I should be recieving my Oppo DV-981HD today.

I've read nothing but good about this company. I wonder when they will jump into the HD market?

With BD hardware & software being so much more expensive than HD, I could care less if BD just died. So, for now it's either HD-DVD or DVD upconverted to to 1080p via the DV-981HD. I'm holding off on BD for now....

I hope LG does release some updates for those that own the BH100, but it didn't sound good when I contacted them about it.

No. Optical can't carry uncompressed 5.1 (or 7.1) PCM nor TrueHD. Therefore you'd be limited to 2 channel PCM or 5.1 DD or DTS (to be decoded by your receiver), and wouldn't have benefit of any lossless audio on the discs.

Yes, standard dolby digital 5.1 and standard DTS work correctly over optical for DVD, HD DVD and Blu-Ray formats.

I am also seeing freezing on FF, RW & Pause on Blu-ray Superman Returns. It was mentioned that units with a build date of Dec. have an earlier version of firmware and that an upgrade to the service techs was in the works: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...03#post9835103

UPDATE: I finished watching Superman Returns today and it played perfectly. I'm stumped as to why one day it froze and hung and today it's playing fine. Yesterday I had cleaned the disc even though it was in pristine condition. I even powered off the unit a few times. Today I simply power up the unit and started playing the movie and it works great. I even reloaded the disc a few times to see if maybe it was a loading issue but each time today it played fine. I also played an HD DVD movie and then played Superman Returns and everything played fine.
So if you experience freezes on FF, RW or Pause it could just be "sunspots"!

too funny !

Ok, this player seems like it might be a prefect fit for me. My reciver dose not support hdmi, so I dont have to worry about the audio issues over hdmi. My reciver dose indeed support 5.1 analog in.

From what I have read the HD audio formats will be decoded internally, and output into my analog ins. (or at least most of them---probabaly assures that any hd-dvd or bd dvd that I put in, I should find at least 1 hd audio format that will play in 5.1 over the analog outs right??

As for 1080p--- I have a very unique video system that I intend to use this with. My plan is to take the hdmi out, convert it to dvi, feed this video into a hdcp stripper, dvi out with dvi back to hdmi cable, to my DVDO VP50 hdmi in.

The stripper is needed because the dvdo vp50 scaler wont take an hdcp signal and allow for converstion to RGBHV.

RGBHV out is required for my crazzy CRT based ILA (not DILA) projector.

My 2nd question is, will my DVDO VP50 take in a 1080p/24? Im pretty sure it dose.

1080p/60 at 6000+ lumens? Y E S!!

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I just got my BH100 from CompUSA yesterday and experienced consistent audio-sync problems on the two titles I checked out last night (one Blu Ray, one HD-DVD). The build date of my player was in December, so I will try to exchange it for a January model and see if that fixes the issue.

I also noted some horizontal streaks flickering randomly on the display when the BH100 was set to output 720P or 1080I to my 720P projector and HDCP was enabled via the projector settings. There was no streaking without HDCP, but of course there was no movie displayed either, only an error message stating that an HDCP problem had been detected. Setting the player to output 1080P and allowing my projector to downcovert the video eliminated the streaking.

Just for the record, I'm using the 5.1 analog connections to a Yamaha DSP-A1 and an HDMI-DVI cable to a Sanyo PLV-Z2.

Does the LG play 'The Descent' BD that has been a problem for several other BD players?

I watched Babel on HD-DVD last night. My BH100 was showing flickering horizontal streaks (apparantly HDCP related) in all output modes and frequent freezes during playback (although the audio did seem to stay in sync the entire time). The freezes became more frequent and lasted longer throughout playback and finally became unbearable about halfway through the movie. My player is boxed up and headed back to the store tonight. Hopefully they'll have some from the January production run to replace it. If not, I'll sit back and wait until newer units are in stock.

Watched Babel (HD-DVD) with my BH100 a week ago and it was 100% solid. Output was set to 1080p (24p). Shouldn't be an inherent problem with this particular HD DVD in combination with the BH100. You may have had a bad disc or a player with issues. Not sure what my firmware version is, but I bought the player a couple of weeks ago.

Carl, does the sticker on the back of your BH100 (or on one end of the packing box) say it was manufactured in January or December (like mine)? I'm hoping my problems will go away when I get a January or newer version.

I threw out the box, and I can't get behind the player easily to check. I sounds like a manufacturing problem with your particular player (misalinged laser for example) or disc. Keep us posted!

Well, I returned my BH100 to CompUSA yesterday as the problems I've been experiencing are pretty consistent with the ones common to the units manufactured in December. I'm hoping some January or later stock shows up there or in my local BB or CC soon. I'm not willing to order one when there's no guarantee I'll get one of the newer players; I want to eyeball the date on the box myself before heading to the register.

The store somehow managed to credit my card an extra $200 when making the refund, so I guess I'm fine with the situation.

I was thinking about getting this player, but not dolby truHD 5.1 hmmm. well I better get a blu ray burner for the pc, that plus my HD DVD drive (xbox 360) will get me a nice HTPC....well I was hoping to go stand alone, but I guess I will have to stick with the pc.

Anybody watch the 'Hollywoodland' HD DVD with the LG? It's a problem disc for some Toshiba players, including my HD-A2.

My BH100 has stopped working. It will recognize Blu-ray disks but then displays a black screen for a while then goes to "Stop" and displays the blue LG screen. This is with a disk it played fine when new. It plays HD DVD disks but there is a 20 second delay between navigation button pushes; i.e. press "Pause" and it freezes (ignores button presses for display or menu) for 20 seconds then goes to pause then when you press "Play" it freezes for 20 seconds (or longer) before resuming play.

I called LG for service and they said they are having problems with "dust" on some units. They suggested I insert a lens cleaner disk. I said the "dust" is not environmental and must be due to an internal defect and I wanted warrantee service. So they are going to "repair" the unit (not swap it) after I mail it to them and it will take three weeks.

Needless to say I am not impressed with LG and their handling of a newly manufactured device. You would think they would do all they can to make the BH100 a success even if they have a few initial issues but it sounds like business as usual.

I know there are aduio issues with the lg player and its hdmi port. My question is two parts...

#1 are any of the next gen audio formats supports over hdmi?

#2 are there any known good av receiver models that are known to work with the lg?

LG's service policy is that they have 15 business days (3 weeks) to repair the product, so that's where time you were told came from. What they may not have told you is that the timer starts from the moment you call and get a claim number. If within 15 working days you dont have the player back in your home and working they will replace it no questions (as long as you can proove the date you reported the claim). They typically do no have product sent in for service, you must not have a service center in your area or they would have sent you there first. How long have you had the player? I would try and take it back to the retailer.

What rout does the player take on 1080/24P

24P-60i-24P

or

24P-24P

? If it is the first you could send 1080i from the player to begin with unless it has some super duper pulldown built in.

The latter.

I experienced the same horizontal flickering you described on all movies I watched over component video at 1080i. Both of my players had the January build date.

Hmm, that's discouraging. I may wait for February or March units to show up then, before I give the BH100 another chance.

Does the LG BH100 combo player upconvert SD-DVD to 720P via HDMI?

I have a Sim2 HT300 elink front project with a HDMI input and the audio will go out to a McIntosh MX135 a/v pre-pro.

In the very near future I will be getting a 1080P front projector and will want the LG combo player to send out a 1080P signal.

Will this player work for me?

I've seen some folks talk about exlusive HD DVD movies & wondered if there were exclusive BluRay ones...I'm sure the answer is yes so to me the critical reason for buying this player is to simply get more content. As anyone who's seen High Definition know - you can't get enuf of it & never want to go back. Therefor my question is, has anyone done a true comparison to the titles out there? I looked on Amazon recently & both formats have roughly the same # (some 260 titles). Then I looked at upcoming releases over the next few months & BluRay had a distinct advantage in new movies while HD was releasing older ones...so from a pure content stand point, this player has to be the answer, right? (if this is to OT, my apologies & point me elswhere please) ...

It's not a numerical thing. It's which movies. But regardless of what your favorite movies are, it's almost impossible to not include blue-exclusives or red-exclusives.

Because of the breakdown of studio support, if you start with the top 20 grossing movies of 2006, you get a rather lopsided distribution --- that's what happens when you stand alone (Universal) against the rest of your peers in any industry. (Universal has had a run of bad luck in the box office in recent years to make it worse than what it should have been)

i just think that sony is trying to do too much right now, i mean the ps3 is a game system, the games are suffering because their trying to push blu-ray. toshiba is making sony lose money on their players by coming out with cheaper players. if fox and disney decide to release movies in hddvd, the consumers will decide which format suits them.