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+2!

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merry christmas one and all! May the blessing of friendship make your life richer. I know mine has been enriched with the friends i have here!

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post #4383 of 4822
As expected, Last, But Not Least.
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post #4384 of 4822
hey guys, i was wondering if anyone can post some recommendations for the basic video settings. I have the 57inch TV
contrast
brightness
color
tint
sharpness
temp
black enhance
edge enhance

im not looking to do any of that techy stuff you guys are talking about cause its a bit more than i need. My picture really looks great on HDTV, 360 and PS3....but i dont want to kill it with bad settings either.

Also, i really need to take apart the tv and clean the inside area. All i know is there are 3 colored lens inside there. I am hoping to get some tips on taking the TV apart and what to clean and what not to touch. The TV delivery guys took it apart to get it into my basement, so i have seen the inside, but im hoping to avoid any surprises.

I appreciate any tips and help....thanks!
post #4385 of 4822
Come on you are on vacation, read all 147 pages! hehe
Look thru lee baileys posts, I will see if I can find my cheat sheets....
search for those words in this thread....


Hitachi Service DIY Guilde.rtf
CONTRAST = 25% to 41%
BRIGHTNESS = 45% to 63%
COLOR = 45% to 50%
TINT = 0 to -3 (3 Clicks left of center)
COLOR TEMP = STD
SHARP = 25 to 50


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Originally Posted by Maynard46 View Post
hey guys, i was wondering if anyone can post some recommendations for the basic video settings. I have the 57inch TV
contrast
brightness
color
tint
sharpness
temp
black enhance
edge enhance

im not looking to do any of that techy stuff you guys are talking about cause its a bit more than i need. My picture really looks great on HDTV, 360 and PS3....but i dont want to kill it with bad settings either.

Also, i really need to take apart the tv and clean the inside area. All i know is there are 3 colored lens inside there. I am hoping to get some tips on taking the TV apart and what to clean and what not to touch. The TV delivery guys took it apart to get it into my basement, so i have seen the inside, but im hoping to avoid any surprises.

I appreciate any tips and help....thanks!
post #4386 of 4822
vacation....i wish lol. im in cleveland so u cant break my balls either

tomorrow at work i plan to kill alot of time in this thread
post #4387 of 4822
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Originally Posted by Maynard46 View Post
vacation....i wish lol. im in cleveland so u cant break my balls either

tomorrow at work i plan to kill alot of time in this thread
haha! I wish some of these OGs would chime in their final settings...


EDIT: Someday I plan to have Chad (he is here in Ohio!) pimp my set. Lets get a few of us to sign up and get a group discount!!!!
http://www.hdtvbychadb.com/
Otherwise tell him Prodeje79 sent you!!!

ok the Prodeje79 cheatsheet:

post #4388 of 4822
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Originally Posted by Maynard46 View Post

hey guys, i was wondering if anyone can post some recommendations for the basic video settings. I have the 57inch TV

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im not looking to do any of that techy stuff you guys are talking about cause its a bit more than i need. My picture really looks great on HDTV, 360 and PS3....but i dont want to kill it with bad settings either.

Also, i really need to take apart the tv and clean the inside area. All i know is there are 3 colored lens inside there. I am hoping to get some tips on taking the TV apart and what to clean and what not to touch. The TV delivery guys took it apart to get it into my basement, so i have seen the inside, but im hoping to avoid any surprises.

I appreciate any tips and help....thanks!

Getting the recommended settings helps to get a better picture, but I think it really helps to preserve and conserve your set, ie. reducing the contrast level, more than to really get a better picture.

If you want to get a better picture the least you can do is to use a calibration pattern disc. Here is a free one with the very basic patterns you need to set contrast, brightness and color correctly.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496

This is a HD calibration disc intended for Blu-Ray players that can be burned into a regular DVD. After going through the calibration process you'll find where your settings should be considering your room lighting and tv watching preferences.

RPCRTs must be services and cleaned at the very least every other year to maintain a clean light path. Cleaning the lenses and mirror is the best thing you can do to maintain your set in top notch shape.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...rpcrt+cleaning

And of course you have to check out and go over the mother of the RPCRT threads...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=695922

On this thread Mr. Bob himself can answer some of your questions.
post #4389 of 4822
Well, they finally got around to fixing my set yesterday. The tech that came out knew his stuff well enough, and did a good job. He installed a new board, and swapped my original DCU back in. He was trying to make some offset adjustments, when I told him not to bother because I'm going to modify it anyways. I'll have to check back in the future to see what I need to do to get mine better setup.
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im having a bit of an issue with the service menu options. for example...people have posted this setup from the SM
Service Menu Settings:

COLORG = 01
STATG2 = 02
APRTR - NTSC = 00
APRTR - SDTV = 00
SRTGA = 00Service Menu Settings:

COLORG = 01
STATG2 = 02
APRTR - NTSC = 00
APRTR - SDTV = 00
SRTGA = 00

i dont have these options in my SM. Any idea where they are?
post #4391 of 4822
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Originally Posted by Maynard46 View Post

im having a bit of an issue with the service menu options. for example...people have posted this setup from the SM
Service Menu Settings:

COLORG = 01
STATG2 = 02
APRTR - NTSC = 00
APRTR - SDTV = 00
SRTGA = 00Service Menu Settings:

COLORG = 01
STATG2 = 02
APRTR - NTSC = 00
APRTR - SDTV = 00
SRTGA = 00

i dont have these options in my SM. Any idea where they are?

It should be in TA1360.
post #4392 of 4822
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Originally Posted by Maynard46 View Post

im having a bit of an issue with the service menu options.
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i dont have these options in my SM. Any idea where they are?

I would recommend for you to get a Service Manual for your tv model and to write down every single setting before changing anything. Beside writing the settings down I also took pictures of the settings, just to be sure.
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thanks. i dont know if i even want to mess with it. after doing the cleaning and playing my 360 and wii i began to notice a big difference in the picture. it looks great as it is

funny thing about the cleaning of optics. the lower quality hook ups showed the biggest improvement. My cable which is on HDMI was barely any better. 360/ps3 are on component and i noticed a good difference. wii is on composite and was a huge difference

playing suprer mario galaxy 2 with my 4 year old and the colors were just jumping off the screen. very impressive to say the least
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playing suprer mario galaxy 2 with my 4 year old and the colors were just jumping off the screen. very impressive to say the least
Now that is COOL!!!
post #4395 of 4822
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Originally Posted by superleo View Post

Now that is COOL!!!

Man I hear you saying how good it looks but there is so much more you can do OOB. My set from then to now is light years in improvement. I could not even fathom going back to OOB.
post #4396 of 4822
so share with me my brother lol

i mean, the info is deep, but its also back 4 years. thats alot of posts with alot of long reads. i wish there was more guides or info in the first posts. i dont mean for that to sound rude or anything cause the info is superb and i am grateful to be able to learn this stuff.
post #4397 of 4822
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Originally Posted by Lee Bailey View Post

My settings have changed, but not very much, here they are now:
CONTRAST=25%(the biggest change)
BRIGHTNESS=63%
COLOR=45%
TINT= -3 (3 CLICKS TO THE LEFT OF CENTER.)
COLOR TEMP = STD(I've always used this setting)

The only changes in the service menu I would change right off the bat are the following, they are all in the service menu, under the TA1360 menu:

COLORG = 01 (def 00)
STATG2 = 02 (def 00)
APRTR - NTSC = 00 (def 01)
APRTR - SDTV = 00 (def 01)

I can't tell you if there is a significant difference between every machine coming out of Hitachi, though I can tell you that I changed what the factory default settings were in the CUTs and DRVs. I believe that if Hitachi does any changing of the individual set, they are probably in the ISF MODE, which is not accesible directly in the service menu.

Here are my cuts and drv settings I ended up with. I only adjusted the White Balance controls for the Standard Color Temp.

GDRV STD = 57
RDVR STD = 4E
RCUT STD = 7A
GCUT STD = 77
BCUT STD = 79
NOTE: THERE IS NO BDRV STD ADJUSTMENT.

I hope this answers your questions.

i just set myself with these settings from lee. is this still kind of the standard? i dont know what any of this stuff means so i have to reply on someone elses template. lee seems to be the standard to start off. i dont notice much of a difference other than my pic looking darker from the lower contrast
post #4398 of 4822
I want to again personally thank all you Hitachi owners for coming up with stuff contstantly, that has allowed me to improve the quality of my calibrations on Hitachis immensely.

My hat's off you, and thanks for helping Maynard out.

Happy New Year!



Mr Bob
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absolutley! and thank you to u as well Mr Bob!

Merry New Year!

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Originally Posted by Maynard46 View Post

i just set myself with these settings from lee. is this still kind of the standard? i dont know what any of this stuff means so i have to reply on someone elses template. lee seems to be the standard to start off. i dont notice much of a difference other than my pic looking darker from the lower contrast

Ok well here is the disclaimer. I will give you the color decoding settings I have but they are very much different for everyone's set. The best thing to do is to get the DVE Essentials or AVIA disk and adjust the colors yourself. As far as Grayscale registers I dont think I will give you those for fear that you might make those adjustments based off what I have and just have to readjust everything back to where it was.

sub brt-76
brt mid 3f
brt low 3f
brt off 3f
brt set 42

subcnt 18 (this is the register that will mess with the main contrast. I would zero in all my user settings to 0 before beginning any of these)

color ntsc 40
color cbrc 3e
color pbpr 44
color med 32
color std 38

tint ntsc 46
tint cbcr 58
tint pbpr 45
tint med 1f
tint std 0a

sharp ntsc 22
sharp sdtv 1e
sharp hdtv 1c

ry ph ntsc 00
cbcr 02
pbpr 00

r/bga high 09
med 09
std 07

r/bga cbcr high 09
med 09
std 04

r/ba pbpr high 07
med 05
std 03

gy ph ntsc 02
cbcr 03
pbpr 03

g/bga high 02
med 03
std 04

g/bga cbcr high 02
med 03
std 00

g/bga pbpr high 00
med 01
std 02

cde 00
dcubrt 1f (117 p conver grid)
dcucnt 2d

colorg 00 (very important here for red. I turned mine off (00) and made all adjustments from there. Seems to be more true colors to me)

ycga 00

blk auto 00
det 00
area 00

srtga 05

dggain 01 (enhances blk)
dgasrea 01

statg1 06
statg2 00
youtg 00
ydtl 08

OK the rest are (I think) factory. If not these are the main ones. Keep in mind that the factory is usually ok with grayscale but not right on. These are mine after jacking with the grayscale. I also run low edge enhancement off the user menu. My user setting are

contrast- 33
brightness 50
tint 0
sharpness 30
ee-low


You wanted it you got it. LOL
post #4401 of 4822
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Originally Posted by Mustang68 View Post
You wanted it you got it. LOL
Please write down your original settings before you change anything. You can get into REAL trouble with this stuff.
Or, on the other hand, it can become an interesting and fun hobby.
Welcome aboard.
Michael
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thanks guys. appreciate the info. im totally confused, but thats a whole nother story
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Originally Posted by Maynard46 View Post

thanks guys. appreciate the info. im totally confused, but thats a whole nother story

That's how we all started. It's a long story with many happy endings. Just take your time, don't do anything (too) stupid, and keep us with you on the way.
BTW, we've all spoken to Mr. Bob at one time or another; a small investment may well save your ass.
/END unsolicited plug.

You've been to the screenshot thread, no?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...010146&page=34
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Hello everyone! I need some help in a bad way...... I have a 51f59 and have always had an excellent picture on it. I watched tv new years eve shut it down and did not turn it back on till this past Monday or Tuesday. right away I noticed an oily effect that almost looks like dirty camera lens kind of, I have seen something similar when I stream video to my PlayStation 3 or have watched a really compressed/upconverted show. I have Fios tv and the picture has always been excellent. I tried my ps3 and my onkyo hd dvd player and while not as bad as the fios HD content there were jaggies around the universal logo at the beginning of a few movies and on the lions gate "gearworks" title intro on some movies also, the actually films looked ok but were missing some clarity and grain seemed to be enhanced greatly. I have swapped out cable boxed from different rooms, bypassed my avr going direct and nothing will solve the issue. I brought in a 17 inch Toshiba hd tv from the treadmill and hooked it up to all of my components and the ps3 and the hd dvd seemed much better the fios seemed off still, but much better than on the 51f59. I don't know if I can really use this as a comparison seeing as how the screen is so much smaller ..... so my question is has anyone experienced this before with their Hitachi or any tv? I checked out the fios feeds off another 2 hd boxes in my bedroom on an old Toshiba sd tv and in my inlaw apt. on a Sony Sd tv and both of those seemed fine (I actually think there is something off with them also but it is hard to compare the sd to the hd) . Im trying to see if it is a tv problem or if all of a sudden this weekend something happened that is creating some sort of interference. thanks for any and all help! Im going crazy over this I just want to relax and watch some toob but I'm fixated on the video noise
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Are these sources going into different inputs on the set? Have you checked/swapped cables? Have you lost your glasses?
If you've been using HDMI, try the component inputs. If it's all sources and all inputs, something happened to the set, but I can't imagine what would affect it this way, especially if it's been off.
How's the convergence?
Michael
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

Are these sources going into different inputs on the set? Have you checked/swapped cables? Have you lost your glasses?
If you've been using HDMI, try the component inputs. If it's all sources and all inputs, something happened to the set, but I can't imagine what would affect it this way, especially if it's been off.
How's the convergence?
Michael

lol have my glasses and that is the problem, when I take them off it all looks great! I have switched from Hdmi to component and all the inputs are the same. I feel like it must be some sort of signal interference, I am going to try a power conditioner and see if that helps if not I'm at a loss, I would hate to buy a new TV only to have the same video noise present....
post #4407 of 4822
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Originally Posted by mellis33 View Post

I would hate to buy a new TV only to have the same video noise present....

But at least you'd feel better about your OLD TV.
Hope it's something simple. Good luck.
post #4408 of 4822
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

But at least you'd feel better about your OLD TV.
Hope it's something simple. Good luck.

thanks man, I had Fios come out today and run some tests, swap a box, everything I could think of to try to narrow the source no luck, oh well I guess I will try a power conditioner next, if that fails its new tv time
post #4409 of 4822
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Originally Posted by mellis33 View Post

thanks man, I had Fios come out today and run some tests, swap a box, everything I could think of to try to narrow the source no luck, oh well I guess I will try a power conditioner next, if that fails its new tv time

Have you tried the OTA? See if you get any different results there. Plug in some rabbit ears antenna and scan a channel or two.
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Originally Posted by superleo View Post
Have you tried the OTA? See if you get any different results there. Plug in some rabbit ears antenna and scan a channel or two.
ill see if I can dig up an antenna and give it a try! thanks for the suggestion
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