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post #1981 of 2138
Thread Starter 
It sounds like you card may be damaged. I suggest trying it in another system and if it is still reporting the same message. Take it back to who ever you bought it from.
post #1982 of 2138
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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post

It sounds like you card may be damaged. I suggest trying it in another system and if it is still reporting the same message.

Agreed, only I don't have another system in the house to try it on. Is there no way to install the Xear software manually? With that installed I could test the card thoroughly for physical damage...
post #1983 of 2138
I don't what specific steps you are taking, but....

- It's a new hardware device. When you plugin your card, does Windows detect as "New Hardware installed" and give you options to install the driver? If yes, chances are that your card is not faulty.

- nforce1 and 2 motherboards are quite old at this point. Are you sure your motherboard(s) may not be faulty?

- I don't know how your BIOS is configured, but for those older motherboards, IRQs and what not were really funky. Maybe try resetting the BIOS and set it to factory defaults, and then try?

Bottomline is that if Windows does detect the card as such, (and as a sound card), chances of the card itself being hosed are slim. It's probably your hardware/software configuration.
post #1984 of 2138
That's an encouraging bottom-line because the card is indeed recognised by windows as a new hardware device.

I mean I even get stereo sound coming out of it so I'm also inclined to think the card itself is ok. My nforce motherboards are old but are all still functioning fine in all other regards. I've also tried resetting the BIOS but that didn't help either.

Only funny thing is that I have a X-Mystique that installs fine on the nforce1 board, but when I replace it with the X-Meridian in the exact same slot I get the problem I've described. Does the X-Merdian use IRQs differently from the X-Mystique? It certainly has more PCI connections.

I'm suspecting more and more that the problem is the newer 8788 installers don't get on to well with the way the older nforce motherboard drivers handle their PCI/PnP/IRQ configurations.

If no-one here can answer my question - Is there any way to install the Xear software manually? - then I'll have to get onto C-Media about it. I'm actually still waiting (24 hours) for my forum account to be activated over there. They don't seem to have any other support on their site than the forums...
post #1985 of 2138
Please someone help me out here! My account at the cmedia forums still hasn't been activated by the administrator and I can't find his email address. Where else can I go for some support for the 8788?
post #1986 of 2138
Cmedia support is pretty well a lost cause. I've had an account waiting for activation for about a month.

You can often get a reply from auzentech support directly, though whether it's of any use... :P
http://www.auzensupport.com/support/...ticket_new.php

Short of unzipping the driver, and running the setup file relevant to your OS (which I presume is what the driver does anyway), I'm not sure what to suggest.


P.S. - You didn't happen to catch Armin when he was in town did you? Got the dvd and it looks awesome
post #1987 of 2138
Ok thanks for that, I'll try Auzentech support.

> and running the setup file relevant to your OS

Yeah tried that one, didn't help any unfortunately.

ps. I assume you're talking about van Buuren? I'm more into older 90's style (goa/psy) trance myself, so I have to admit I didn't even know he'd played in Utrecht recently...
post #1988 of 2138
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Originally Posted by phusg View Post

ps. I assume you're talking about van Buuren? I'm more into older 90's style (goa/psy) trance myself, so I have to admit I didn't even know he'd played in Utrecht recently...

I was indeed
Almost a shame


Best of luck with the card.
post #1989 of 2138
Hi all,

After several email exchanges with Auzentech support they tell me,
Quote:


We have discussed your issue with CMedia, but it is not possible to the software manually since the Xear 3D engine is inside of CMedia's driver, and there is not folder and exe file in package.

I'd really appreciate it if someone who has either got the X-Meridian up and running on an nforce1 or 2 board or has a solution for installing the Xear software manually would reply to this thread.

Thanks,
Pete
post #1990 of 2138
Thread Starter 
OK, first have you verified the card will install on another system, just so you know you are not wasting your time and the card is indeed not pouched?
I always remember the XM installing easily with no issues in that regard...
post #1991 of 2138
I am having a problem with the the driver for the X-Meridian sound card in the 64 bit version of windows 7. When I install the driver and reboot I do get sound but as soon as I try to open the Oxygen HD manager it locks up the os and I have to reboot. I have tried it in the 32 bit version and it works fine. I have also tried installing with different compatibility modes without success. I just wanted to see if anyone here had any suggestions on how I might fix this issue.
post #1992 of 2138
use 32 bit....
post #1993 of 2138
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

use 32 bit....

I have six gigs of ram and would like to use all of it. I am using the 32 bit version right now.
post #1994 of 2138
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Originally Posted by veelum View Post

I am having a problem with the the driver for the X-Meridian sound card in the 64 bit version of windows 7. When I install the driver and reboot I do get sound but as soon as I try to open the Oxygen HD manager it locks up the os and I have to reboot.

Now that you mentioned it, as well as the XM has been, it's time to consider selling it now that it's not supported for future OS.
post #1995 of 2138
I haven't had any trouble with vista x64...

May well be a long shot, but I'd be waiting till you're using a non-beta release =P

Are you using the 17.39s? - available from Claro
post #1996 of 2138
Been browsing through this thread, but I could not find a clear answer, maybe someone knows?

Recently I put a X-Meridian into my HTPC.
Driving 8 monoblocks through analog out on the card.

Since the outputs are so "hot", I can use a maximum of 5% of the volume control before the volume is too loud to be in the room.

Here comes the question... how does the card handle volume control. Is the volume control done using bit scaling (would be disastrous in my case ... 5% as the maximum possible volume setting).

And another question .. the card seems to play any 2 channel music in all 7.1 channels .. can't this be switched off or something .. I do NOT want to have to change between 2 and 7.1 in the settings all the time.
post #1997 of 2138
Thread Starter 
Many figured that since teh outputs are about double what normal line-level would be that 50% would be the maximum you should go.

You also should have two volume controls on the mixer for the card. You have Wave and Master. Off the top of my head, I am usure if the volume control is a bit scaler or a attenuator. I will see if I can find out for you though.
As for your 2-7.1 channel issue, make sure you don't have on any effects like reverb, and also make sure the upmix routines are disabled. The Pro Logic IIX is a upmix routine on that card.

So besides this, How does the setup sound?
Also, what OS are you using?
post #1998 of 2138
Robscix,

Thanks,
Using Win XP SP2 and JRMC/Asio4All.
Nuforce Ref8 monoblocks all around.

At 50% my speakers would be sent into orbit
At 5% I supply my neighbors with music as well.

So basically I have 5 levels .. Off - 1/5 - 2/5 - 3/5 - 4/5 - Max(5%).

The only thing I have enabled in the XM control panel is 7.1 settings (do play movies as well).
None of the Dolby, DTS etc to the right has been selected (gray/not blue as I guess means active).

The XM was upgraded with new OP amps by the previous owner.
But I'm not sure about the sound .. something is not right.
It sounds almost a bit distorted. That is why I wonder if it scales bits when adjusting volume. Maybe that sounds like distorsion.

It's not extremely bad at 3%.. very dynamic but voices and higher sounds a bit off. But I could be imagining things.
post #1999 of 2138
Thread Starter 
@Soren, Which opamps?
post #2000 of 2138
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Originally Posted by alg7_munif View Post

You changed the OPAMPs and use analogue or digital? You said that there is no bass with analogue, did changing the OPAMPs fix this. I came from X-Plosion to X-Meridian and using when using digital, I can't hear any difference between them but like others, I ended up with analogue with new OPAMPs because the sound is really amazing.

I'm using digital coax and using PCM to my receiver and it does confuse me why upgrading the opamp gives it a better sound. I thought the opamp is intended to filter analog connections.
post #2001 of 2138
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by a_ok2me View Post

I'm using digital coax and using PCM to my receiver and it does confuse me why upgrading the opamp gives it a better sound. I thought the opamp is intended to filter analog connections.

If your using digital conenction then opamps have no affect on the sound quality. Have you tried out analog output on this card? -Many have noted this card has great DAC's and may offer better overall sound.
Try it out and use your ears to be the judge. If your receiver has full analog inputs.
post #2002 of 2138
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post

If your using digital conenction then opamps have no affect on the sound quality. Have you tried out analog output on this card? -Many have noted this card has great DAC's and may offer better overall sound.
Try it out and use your ears to be the judge. If your receiver has full analog inputs.

I would have thought this too. But I use digital and notice a night / day difference after I stuck in the LME49860. Don't have analog cables to compare.
post #2003 of 2138
placebo delusion at its best
post #2004 of 2138
Thread Starter 
Remove the opamp entirely and then compare the audio...
post #2005 of 2138
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post

Remove the opamp entirely and then compare the audio...

Good one. I'll try this weekend.
post #2006 of 2138
Quote:
Originally Posted by a_ok2me View Post

I'm using digital coax and using PCM to my receiver and it does confuse me why upgrading the opamp gives it a better sound. I thought the opamp is intended to filter analog connections.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post

If your using digital conenction then opamps have no affect on the sound quality. Have you tried out analog output on this card? -Many have noted this card has great DAC's and may offer better overall sound.
Try it out and use your ears to be the judge. If your receiver has full analog inputs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

placebo delusion at its best

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post

Remove the opamp entirely and then compare the audio...

I removed the opamps and I was still able to get sound on digital coax. Maybe it's the placebo effect.

If I was using analog (do not have cables to test), would I be able to get any sound or do I need the opamps to complete the circuit to get sound?
post #2007 of 2138
I just got a used x-meridian with upgraded opamps (the 4562)

It runs on vista 32bit, and it HAS to go into a Denon-789 receiver, which has a set of PSB Alpha speakers, (5.1 towers, center, small rears)

I'm new to this so I was looking for some advice. I'm interested in 5.1 surround sound, not upmixed 2 channel etc. I might be confused but Dolby Digital Live and DTS interactive sounds like it just upmixes and spreads the 2channels out over the 5 speakers...

Is it better to run this card from the analog outputs into the analog inputs on the receiver. If I do this I lose the Audyssey processing that I actually really like now that it's configured. I have to run the analog outs to the receiver, I have no amp, or alternate method to run my speakers...and Im curious if I lose the "unique" sound from the op-amps etc if it has to go through the receivers circuitry anyhow.

Or is it better to run the card with the optical out. I can keep my audyssey processing and I was hoping for just a straight 5.1 DD output to the receiver. For some reason, my DD and DTS files seem to output in 2 channels to the denon, and it runs on Dolby PLIIx...which is another "upmixer"(afaik). The x-meridian was set to pcm output, however if i changed it to Dolby Digital live or DTS interactive the receiver was still only receiving 2 channels.


I'll play with this and see what I like best, I was just hoping for some insight or if I'm confused about the different playback formats.
post #2008 of 2138
Quote:
Originally Posted by soren View Post

Robscix,

Thanks,
Using Win XP SP2 and JRMC/Asio4All.
Nuforce Ref8 monoblocks all around.

At 50% my speakers would be sent into orbit
At 5% I supply my neighbors with music as well.

So basically I have 5 levels .. Off - 1/5 - 2/5 - 3/5 - 4/5 - Max(5%).

The only thing I have enabled in the XM control panel is 7.1 settings (do play movies as well).
None of the Dolby, DTS etc to the right has been selected (gray/not blue as I guess means active).

The XM was upgraded with new OP amps by the previous owner.
But I'm not sure about the sound .. something is not right.
It sounds almost a bit distorted. That is why I wonder if it scales bits when adjusting volume. Maybe that sounds like distorsion.

It's not extremely bad at 3%.. very dynamic but voices and higher sounds a bit off. But I could be imagining things.

There are ways of fixing this by reshaping the volume ramp in XP & Vista.
Basically you need to "EnableVolumeTable", then populate the "VolumeTable".
Example below. Three are either 25 or 50 entries in the table and each entry in the volume table corresponds to sound card volume value that will be set for the corresponding volume index shown in the Volume Mixer.
Most likely you want to really flatten out the curve and reduce the maximum value to 10

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Multimedia\\Audio\\ VolumeControl]
"EnableVolumeTable"=dword:00000001
"VolumeTable"=hex:00,00,00,00,\\
01,00,00,00,\\
04,00,00,00,\\
0F,00,00,00,\\
24,00,00,00,\\
46,00,00,00,\\
78,00,00,00,\\
BF,00,00,00,\\
1D,01,00,00,\\
96,01,00,00,\\
2D,02,00,00,\\
E5,02,00,00,\\
C3,03,00,00,\\
C8,04,00,00,\\
F9,05,00,00,\\
58,07,00,00,\\
EA,08,00,00,\\
B1,0A,00,00,\\
B1,0C,00,00,\\
ED,0E,00,00,\\
68,11,00,00,\\
27,14,00,00,\\
2B,17,00,00,\\
79,1A,00,00,\\
14,1E,00,00,\\
00,22,00,00,\\
3F,26,00,00,\\
D4,2A,00,00,\\
C4,2F,00,00,\\
12,35,00,00,\\
C0,3A,00,00,\\
D3,40,00,00,\\
4D,47,00,00,\\
32,4E,00,00,\\
86,55,00,00,\\
4B,5D,00,00,\\
85,65,00,00,\\
38,6E,00,00,\\
66,77,00,00,\\
13,81,00,00,\\
42,8B,00,00,\\
F8,95,00,00,\\
36,A1,00,00,\\
00,AD,00,00,\\
5B,B9,00,00,\\
48,C6,00,00,\\
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FF,FF,00,00
post #2009 of 2138
Thanks,
Will test when I get a chance.
post #2010 of 2138
Anyone know if there is an EXE I could run in compatibility mode for the XM OxygenHD panel? Running Win7 x64, it just hangs my machine and that's really crappy. I love my X-Meridian but cannot deal without Win7 or 5.1..
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