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post #8131 of 8264
8/9/12 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

The FCC doesn't keep track of virtual channel numbers in most cases; they're just listing the former analog channel on full powers, as best I can tell. For example, KAIL in Fresno has mapped to 7-x for years and years, but the FCC still says the virtual channel is 53.
- Trip

And Dish and DirecTV still carry KAIL on 53 - Comcast on 13 and 713(HD) to confuse the viewers further. And of course, on full powers, their former analog channel is almost always their present brand channel number. Thus, e.g., KCNC (CBS) in Denver in the FCC database: "Transmit Channel: 35 596 - 602 MHz Licensed Virtual Channel: 4 (viewer sees this channel number)". "4" was their analog channel. However, my former station in Dallas KTVT (CBS) is full power on BOTH RF11/V11 which was their analog channel number for decades and on RF19/V11 with both RFs saying "Virtual Channel: 11 (viewer sees this channel number)" . Seems there are always exceptions to the rule. smile.gif
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post #8132 of 8264
8/12/12 at 1:11pm
I read through the past couple of pages and didn't see anyone directly address this issue, though I did see someone mention issues with KMGH around post #8120.

In the past three weeks or so, KMGH and all of the 7.x virtual channels are just plain ole gone on all of the tuners in my house. I'm using a Winegard MS-2002 antenna through a Motorola BDA-S4 amplifier. This setup has been rock solid (and continues to be for other channels) until KMGH just disappeared a few weeks ago.

I cannot tune it using any of the following tuners:

  • SiliconDust HDHomerun Prime
  • Hauppauge HVR-1600
  • Samsung UN55C7000 television
  • LG LC32D television

On all of these guys, I can tune every other channel (all of PBS, CBS, and NBC) around the ABC 7.x virtual channels.

Has something happened with KMGH that I need to account for? I went up on the roof and adjusted my antenna but it didn't help at all.

Thanks in advance and my apologies if I missed an explanation for this somewhere else.
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post #8133 of 8264
8/13/12 at 10:31am
I'm still getting all the 7.x programming. Svet-am, where are you located?
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post #8134 of 8264
8/13/12 at 10:47am
I have to get a gray scale calibration for my old rear-projector Sony XBR hdtv. Can anybody recommend someone to do this for me in Denver metro area?
What does this calibration cost these days?
Edited by Scott Pro - 8/13/12 at 6:13pm
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post #8135 of 8264
8/13/12 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by svet-am View Post

In the past three weeks or so, KMGH and all of the 7.x virtual channels are just plain ole gone on all of the tuners in my house. I'm using a Winegard MS-2002 antenna through a Motorola BDA-S4 amplifier. This setup has been rock solid (and continues to be for other channels) until KMGH just disappeared a few weeks ago. ...
Both KMGH broadcasts have been coming in here all along on physical 7 and 17. You can try a double re-scan on one or more tuners as a quick and easy first troubleshooting step, but my hunch is that's not going to do it. The more likely suspect is signal overload at the Motorola drop amp, the front ends of the tuners, or both. The reason? You're amplifying the signals twice -- by roughly 18 dB at the MS-2002, and by another 6-7 dB at the BDA-S4. Double amplification isn't necessary anywhere in the Denver metro area. It can invite strange and seemingly "sudden" troubles like this, because digital tuners are far better at coping with signals that are too weak than handling those that are too strong. I have four digital tuners (two TVs, two recorders) plus an FM tuner hooked up to my attic-mounted antennas. With no amplification at all, all 50-plus channels available hereabouts come in with 100-percent reliability on both TVs and recorders.

If re-scanning doesn't work, try replacing the Motorola drop amp with a plain four-way splitter. Your MS-2002 offers plenty of boost by itself to power signals through the splitter and into all four tuners. Just make certain the antenna's power inserter is installed into the cabling between the antenna and the splitter to ensure that DC power continues to reach the amplifier mounted inside the antenna housing.
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post #8136 of 8264
8/22/12 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by MikeBiker View Post

I emailed the station about the status and just received an answer.
"We plan to have a new digital translator on-line by the end of July. We anticipate that this translator will provide solid fill-in signal in your area. As we get closer to turning on this new service we will post the start date on our website. Once this is completed you will need to rescan for our channels and you should start getting a solid signal. "
KBDI (CPT-12) Marshall Road/Cherryvale translator status
Have they provided you any new information on the KBDI (CPT-12) Marshall Road/Cherryvale translator?

FOLLOW-UP:
I called the station at (303) 296-1212 and the person who answered said the new Boulder translator was partially operational. It was on-line and relaying 12-1 and 12-3, but they were not yet able to get it to relay 12-2.
I went to my indoor antenna based TV and did a partial scan. It found the translator. That TV can now receive 12-1 and 12-3 on UHF 48. I happened to get 12-2 off Squaw Mountain just now, but normally, I can't get the Squaw Mountain transmitter with that antenna. Even with the attic mouted antenna which has a CM-7777 pre-amp, I often have spotty reception of the Squaw Mountain transmitter.

I just checked the signal comparison. I live about a block east of Coal Creek Elementery. The antenna is a Channel Master 3010 Stealth near the top of a 2nd floor closet. The TV is a Vizio VO320E.
VHF 13 reports Signal Strength 82, S/N 14db, bad break up.
UHF 48 reports Signal Strength 78, S/N 22db, very little break up.
Edited by kenavs - 8/22/12 at 6:25pm
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post #8137 of 8264
8/22/12 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by kenavs View Post

KBDI (CPT-12) Marshall Road/Cherryvale translator status
Have they provided you any new information on the KBDI (CPT-12) Marshall Road/Cherryvale translator?
FOLLOW-UP:
I called the station at (303) 296-1212 and the person who answered said the new Boulder translator was partially operational. It was on-line and relaying 12-1 and 12-3, but they were not yet able to get it to relay 12-2.
I went to my indoor antenna based TV and did a partial scan. It found the translator. That TV can now receive 12-1 and 12-3 on UHF 48. I happened to get 12-2 off Squaw Mountain just now, but normally, I can't get the Squaw Mountain transmitter with that antenna. Even with the attic mouted antenna which has a CM-7777 pre-amp, I often have spotty reception of the Squaw Mountain transmitter.
I just checked the signal comparison. I live about a block east of Coal Creek Elementery. The antenna is a Channel Master 3010 Stealth near the top of a 2nd floor closet. The TV is a Vizio VO320E.
VHF 13 reports Signal Strength 82, S/N 14db, bad break up.
UHF 48 reports Signal Strength 78, S/N 22db, very little break up.

Is the old KBDI analog translator in Boulder on channel 11 still broadcasting (if you were ever able to receive it at your location)?
Edited by GE AVS - 8/22/12 at 8:41pm
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post #8138 of 8264
8/23/12 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by GE AVS View Post

Is the old KBDI analog translator in Boulder on channel 11 still broadcasting (if you were ever able to receive it at your location)?
I have never detected anything on 11, so I really don't know.
The only Physical Channels listed on RabbitEars.Info for Virtual 12 are VHF 13 and UHF 48. The station listed for UHF 48 is K11QJ (Boulder) so I presume that replaced the transmitter you mentioned. Also there is a listing for KQCK on Physical 11 for a transmitter that seems to be near Fort Collins. I suspect Physical 11s would not be allowed in Boulder and Fort Collins.
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post #8139 of 8264
8/24/12 at 12:00pm
Has anyone had an issue with KMGH Channel 7 right now? I can't receive any of the 7.x channels on my Windows Media Center PC.

Not sure when this started. but probably in the last few days. I tried moving cables around..etc. Signal Strength shows high.

The channels works on my TV directly.
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post #8140 of 8264
8/24/12 at 1:36pm
Also tried using Hauppauge's software WinTV. I can watch using WinTV, but not WMC.
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post #8141 of 8264
8/24/12 at 2:13pm
Channels 9 And 20 tower maintenance.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/284904/188/Tower-maintenance-to-affect-KUSA-KTVD-viewing
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post #8142 of 8264
8/24/12 at 2:16pm
OK... I guess Windows Media Center had 7.1 and 17.1 as the source for 7.1. I'm not sure why it had 17.1 in there. I disabled 17.1 for each of my 4 tuners, and now 7.1 comes in fine. Did the same for all the 7.x subchannels and its working fine now.

Is this a Microsoft guide type thing that I should put on their forums? any idea why this would happen?

Also.. Channel 31 seems to be low power for me today.. anyone else?
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post #8143 of 8264
8/24/12 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by mogulman1 View Post

OK... I guess Windows Media Center had 7.1 and 17.1 as the source for 7.1. I'm not sure why it had 17.1 in there. I disabled 17.1 for each of my 4 tuners, and now 7.1 comes in fine. Did the same for all the 7.x subchannels and its working fine now.
Is this a Microsoft guide type thing that I should put on their forums? any idea why this would happen?
Also.. Channel 31 seems to be low power for me today.. anyone else?
Per RabbitEars.info:
Channel Call Sign City of License ASRN AGL Record Type HAAT Power
7-1 (7) KMGH-TV DENVER, CO 1058328 653' DT‑LIC 1178' 54 kW DA
7-1 (17) KZCO-LD DENVER, CO 1058328 551' LD‑LIC 1072' 15 kW DA

The Virtual 7 signals are broadcast from 2 different physical transmitters on Lookout Moutain. The full power one is VHF 7 and the low power one is UHF 17.
The signals are identical, so it does not matter which transmitter you are tuned to, as long as you are receiving an adequate signal.
Edited by kenavs - 8/24/12 at 10:50pm
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post #8144 of 8264
8/25/12 at 7:27am
7 seems to be stronger for me. I removed 17 from the list from MS. Not sure if it will come back. Hopefully not

Channel 31 fox seems to be better now too. Maybe they were doing work on the towers yesterday.
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post #8145 of 8264
8/25/12 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by mogulman1 View Post

7 seems to be stronger for me. I removed 17 from the list from MS. Not sure if it will come back. Hopefully not
Channel 31 fox seems to be better now too. Maybe they were doing work on the towers yesterday.
I certainly don't know, but I suspect the UHF 17 transmitter carrying the KMGH signal was established to accomodate viewers close to Lookout Mountain who use a UHF only antenna. They would still have problems with KUSA on VHF 9.
I would suspect that most viewers with VHF/UHF combo antennas would find the signal from VHF 7 to be stronger.
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post #8146 of 8264
8/27/12 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by Iwanthd View Post

Channels 9 And 20 tower maintenance.
http://www.9news.com/news/article/284904/188/Tower-maintenance-to-affect-KUSA-KTVD-viewing

Yep, KTVD dropped out right in the middle of Perry Mason on Me-TV. Right dead on 11:00 PM. The one time I stayed up to watch Perry Mason, and the transmitter goes down. wink.gif
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post #8147 of 8264
8/27/12 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by dkreichen1968 View Post

Yep, KTVD dropped out right in the middle of Perry Mason on Me-TV. Right dead on 11:00 PM. The one time I stayed up to watch Perry Mason, and the transmitter goes down. wink.gif
Don't worry, Perry got the defendant off
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post #8148 of 8264
8/28/12 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by Don_M View Post

Both KMGH broadcasts have been coming in here all along on physical 7 and 17. You can try a double re-scan on one or more tuners as a quick and easy first troubleshooting step, but my hunch is that's not going to do it. The more likely suspect is signal overload at the Motorola drop amp, the front ends of the tuners, or both. The reason? You're amplifying the signals twice -- by roughly 18 dB at the MS-2002, and by another 6-7 dB at the BDA-S4. Double amplification isn't necessary anywhere in the Denver metro area. It can invite strange and seemingly "sudden" troubles like this, because digital tuners are far better at coping with signals that are too weak than handling those that are too strong. I have four digital tuners (two TVs, two recorders) plus an FM tuner hooked up to my attic-mounted antennas. With no amplification at all, all 50-plus channels available hereabouts come in with 100-percent reliability on both TVs and recorders.
If re-scanning doesn't work, try replacing the Motorola drop amp with a plain four-way splitter. Your MS-2002 offers plenty of boost by itself to power signals through the splitter and into all four tuners. Just make certain the antenna's power inserter is installed into the cabling between the antenna and the splitter to ensure that DC power continues to reach the amplifier mounted inside the antenna housing.

I thought I would close the loop on this. I found out via a different forum that sometimes the transistors in the pre-amp that is built into the Winegard MS-2002 will just die producing a band-block for certain frequencies. I ended up replacing it with a Shakespeare model 2030-G which is actually the same antenna as the Winegard MS-2002 with a differently tuned pre-amp. Things have been great. Not only are we back in business with KMGH (and stronger than ever before) but we're picking up some stations from further out that were marginal before.
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post #8149 of 8264
8/28/12 at 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by MikeBiker View Post

Don't worry, Perry got the defendant off
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But how? That's the question!!! smile.gif
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post #8150 of 8264
10/8/12 at 8:39pm
FYI, KMGH did drop "The Cool TV." It should be replaced by ABC's "Live Well" soon.
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post #8151 of 8264
10/8/12 at 8:59pm
dkreichen1968,

when did that happen? I have a regular recording schedule on that channel (Thursdays).

-Tony
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post #8152 of 8264
10/9/12 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by svet-am View Post

dkreichen1968,
when did that happen?
My guess would be Sept. 30. I had Nineties Nectar on Tuesday evenings punched into my DVR. It recorded as usual on Sept. 25. The Oct. 2 recording was blank, and 7-3 was gone from the channel lineup on all tuners.

H/T to dkreichen for confirming this. I looked all over & couldn't find a thing about it.
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post #8153 of 8264
10/9/12 at 9:12pm
I confirmed that CoolTV is gone tonight. It really makes me sad -- I liked it a lot as it reminded me a lot of what MTV was like when I was a teen. I removed 7.3 from my MythTV guides pending the Live Well network going live.
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post #8154 of 8264
10/13/12 at 8:43pm
October 1st. Or, September 31st at midnight. Their contract must have run out at that point. Expect "Live Well" to show up soon. I expect November 1st.
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post #8155 of 8264
10/26/12 at 6:47am
I see KWGN/KDVR have a new weather gal! Who is she replacing, if anyone?
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post #8156 of 8264
11/19/12 at 2:00pm
Time to Rescan Folks. This just posted on another forum.

"Cool TV is now on KZDN-LD (November 19, 2012), Channel 26, a LPTV station." smile.gif
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post #8157 of 8264
11/20/12 at 7:17pm
I found 26 about a week ago. It's gone right now and I haven't seen it the past few days.
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post #8158 of 8264
11/21/12 at 1:41am
Thanks for the update, I'm now getting The Cool TV on 26.1. When I did my scan, I also found KLWY on 27.1 and KTWO on 27.2. KLWY is from Cheyenne, Wyoming and KTWO looks to be the Jewelry Channel. Anybody else getting these in Highlands Ranch?
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post #8159 of 8264
11/23/12 at 12:09am
I get KLWY/KTWO 24/7 in Highlands Ranch. KTWO is not the Jewelry Channel. It is the ABC affiliate out of Casper, WY. I also get KGWN 5 from Cheyenne about 75% of the time, usually lose it during the day.
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post #8160 of 8264
11/23/12 at 11:07pm
I Just did a re-scan and Live Well Network is not yet live. I tend get everything really clear. (I Live in SE-Denver near DU & Porter Hospital) I also can not seem to get Mundo Fox (KQCK-LP).
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